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Phytoserms-347 VS Test Stack No.17
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jeremyng25
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Its 200 bucks for a 30 day supply BTW
T Looking at the ingredients TS looks like it's got all male enhancement/pro-sexual bases covered -- Free T and total boosting, LH elevation, libido spike and ingredients for erectile function. But the dosages are uncertain and at price it better be fucking amazing.
Test stack No. 17 is the most comprehensive test product on the market with its ingredient profile.
Dr. Field Farrar has created a test accelerator using trial and error methodology. He and his staff came up with 20 different test enhancement formulas and determined that formula number 17 produced the biggest increases in test production. The name Test Stack 17 comes from Dr. Farrar's 17th formulation being the most effective 'stack' of nutraceuticals that the doctor decided to test - hence the name "Test Stack 17". The rest is history - the formula can only be made in small quantities due to the rare and highly expensive compounds used in the formulation. And as a result, demand exceeds supply and each batch sells out almost immediately.
Test Stack No.17 contains the most state-of-the-art ingredients available today, this testosterone booster will dramatically raise your testosterone level while lowering your estrogen level. Not only that but it takes your libido through the roof too.
Here are the 12 ingredients in Test Stack No.17:
#1 Cnidium Monnieri
Cnidium is known as a testosterone accelerator and a pro-erectile agent and with good reason. It essentially does what erectile dysfunction drugs do – it increase your nitric oxide production and it’s your nitric oxide which allows for the blood flow delivery to the penis resulting in bigger, firmer erections (1).
What I really like about Cnidium Monnieri is that you won’t have to wait or guess if Cnidium works. YOU’LL KNOW! Right away! This same pro-erectile benefit also creates more of a “pump” when you're working out. It’s the best of both worlds to a bodybuilder!
#2 Ligusticum
For centuries, Ligusticum has had a reputation in Asia as a testosterone accelerator, an aphrodisiac and a tonic for the reproductive organs. But it wasn’t until recently that scientific studies showed it increased blood flow to the extremities. This is similar to what yohimbe does but without the excess nervous system stimulation that yohimbe can cause. You get all the benefits without any of the downsides. Western science has proven what the Chinese herbologists have known for so long. According to several studies Ligusticum suppresses production of “TNF alpha” -- an enzyme that secretes “stress hormones” such as cortisol and adrenaline (2). It’s these stress hormones that cause muscle breakdown and hamper your workout recovery. Ligusticum keeps your catabolic hormones at bay to allow muscle growth to come through full force!
#3 Xanthoparmelia Scabrosa 35% Piperazine
This is a complex plant like organism known as a lichen that has reputation of being a “longevity”plant. Like any ancient herb, the speculation about causation of the effects was based solely on trail, error, experience and observation. Well, once again, scientific studies show the validity of the claims. Xanthoparmelia is now being used in the prevention of certain cancers and it also has the unusual ability to increase testosterone and nitric oxide, so it too, will help bring about much stronger muscle pumps and more intense sexual pleasure (3). Another double kick-ass bonus for bodybuilders!
#4 Shilajit
One of the most popular compounds in Ayurvedic medicine is Shilajit. It is mostly used for its ability to aid in the absorption of micronutrients. Shilajit was discovered on a mountain top where there was an abundance of this tar-like substance near fossilized plants and volcanic rock. Interestingly, the animals in this region were eating Shilajit and they tended to grow much larger and live longer than their counterparts who lived at lower elevations! (4) Shilajit has since been used as an “underground” supplement and was reportedly used by Soviet Union Olympic athletes in combination with the anabolic steroids they supposedly were not using.
#5 3,4-Divanillyltetrahydrofuran
This is the concentrated active ingredient of Urtica Dioica. Utica Dioica in its natural form has been shown to increase “Free” testosterone. Your testosterone that is “Free” is the only kind that is usable for muscle growth. (5) All other Test, even if it’s high, is inert and will not help you build more muscle. The key is for you to get your free testosterone as high as possible and Urtica Dioica does just that. Divanillyltetrahydrofuran is the isolated active ingredient and is more than ten times more potent than whole Urtica Dioica. (6) I went into much greater detail about this compound in yesterday's report Gynecomastia & Dino, the Dancer Dude who Grew Double D's.
#6 Paeonia Lactiflora
This has been used in traditional medicine as a treatment for impotence and lack of stamina. As it turns out, it works! And Paeonia is now recommended by many doctors when liver enzymes are too high. (7) This is in accord with the “cleansing and clarifying” effects that the herbologists have advocated for years. This is especially valuable to bodybuilders since their livers are often taxed from various substances, so Paeonia Lactiflora will make everything else you stack it with work better.
#7 Fadogia Agrestis
Fadogia is the only natural substance shown to increase LH, luteinizing hormone, in laboratory animals, but blood test evidence from users shows that it works on the average gym rat as well! (8) LH is what allows the body to create more testosterone. This is of utmost value to anyone using anabolics or anyone who wants to take his testosterone levels way above normal. Age, anabolic steroid cycle recovery, and environmental toxins can cause your LH production to diminish. Fadogia helps to stave off that loss. And for the natural athlete, more LH production means more potential muscle building testosterone – but it’s your own! No suppression! Just the highest, healthiest levels your body can produce. I went into much greater detail about this compound in yesterday's report Gynecomastia & Dino, the Dancer Dude who Grew Double D's.
#8 Desmodium Gangeticum 10:1
Another secret Ayurvedic compound that raises testosterone, reduces inflammation , aids in recovery, supports the nervous system and increases sex drive. Studies have shown it lowers tissue destroying acids without toxicity or side effects. (9) It’s a MUST for anyone involved in heavy training.
#9 Avenacosides A&B
Do not be fooled by any company claiming that Avena Sativa is the same a Avenacosides! Avena Sativa is the oat plant and using it will be about as beneficial as eating a bowl of oatmeal. Avenacosides are a minute component of the plant and have the amazing ability to reduce sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG) . (10) Why is that important? Because SHBG is what keeps your testosterone from becoming biologically active. (11) When SHBG is lowered, your “free” testosterone soars along with your ability to build muscle! However, be careful what you buy because not all Avenacosides brands are created equally.
#10 Chlorophytum Borivilianum (Safed Musli)
This plant contains saponins that enhance immunity and enrich the hormonal system (boost test levels and lower estrogen). It has also been shown to increase ejaculate volume and the mobility of sperm cells. For this reason, it is even used as an alternative to fertility drugs with much success. (12) Safed Musli is one of the most coveted herbs in India for use in curing many illnesses due to a suppressed immunity system.
#11 ProLensis ™ Bulbine Natalensis
This is a proven compound shown to increase “overall” testosterone. (13) This was discovered with controlled studies on animals where overall testosterone was increased up to 347%! This combined with the “free” testosterone effects causes a full time release of maximum hormonal health and vigor. It’s important that the body continue manufacturing testosterone to maintain strength, aggression and testicular fullness. Nothing does this better than Bulbine Natalensis. I went into much greater detail about this compound in yesterday's report Gynecomastia & Dino, the Dancer Dude who Grew Double D's.
#12 Catuaba P.E. 4:1 Extract
Catuaba is a Costa Rican rain forest botanical used for a variety of health and strength inducing capabilities. It too has a reputation as a testosterone booster and as an aphrodisiac – in Brazil, where they get a chance to test it quite often! To this day Catuaba is the most popular pro-sexual aid in South America. It’s also been shown to have immunity enhancing effects making it a great addition bodybuilders who need fast recovery for hard training and cannot afford the lay off time from being tired or run down.
Purchasing all of these ingredients alone would cost A LOT of money, and this article explains just how great the ingredients are, and puts into perspective just how great these are together making the most comprehensive test boosting stack available in a single bottle!!
Big Balls - Top 12 Breakthrough Testosterone Delivery Compounds [VIDEOS]
Test Stack No. 17 is obviously a very powerful product, and it could be used as a very powerful product in post cycle therapy, or as part of a cycle to prevent shutdown and increase libido. Used standalone, Test Stack No. 17 can give you gains naturally that you never thought possible while sending your sex drive through the roof!!
If you are interested in picking up this revolutionary product, click this link and experience what many others are experiencing with Test Stack No. 17!!
http://w3.teststackrx.com/102.html
Dr. Field Farrar has created a test accelerator using trial and error methodology. He and his staff came up with 20 different test enhancement formulas and determined that formula number 17 produced the biggest increases in test production. The name Test Stack 17 comes from Dr. Farrar's 17th formulation being the most effective 'stack' of nutraceuticals that the doctor decided to test - hence the name "Test Stack 17". The rest is history - the formula can only be made in small quantities due to the rare and highly expensive compounds used in the formulation. And as a result, demand exceeds supply and each batch sells out almost immediately.
Test Stack No.17 contains the most state-of-the-art ingredients available today, this testosterone booster will dramatically raise your testosterone level while lowering your estrogen level. Not only that but it takes your libido through the roof too.
Here are the 12 ingredients in Test Stack No.17:
#1 Cnidium Monnieri
Cnidium is known as a testosterone accelerator and a pro-erectile agent and with good reason. It essentially does what erectile dysfunction drugs do – it increase your nitric oxide production and it’s your nitric oxide which allows for the blood flow delivery to the penis resulting in bigger, firmer erections (1).
What I really like about Cnidium Monnieri is that you won’t have to wait or guess if Cnidium works. YOU’LL KNOW! Right away! This same pro-erectile benefit also creates more of a “pump” when you're working out. It’s the best of both worlds to a bodybuilder!
#2 Ligusticum
For centuries, Ligusticum has had a reputation in Asia as a testosterone accelerator, an aphrodisiac and a tonic for the reproductive organs. But it wasn’t until recently that scientific studies showed it increased blood flow to the extremities. This is similar to what yohimbe does but without the excess nervous system stimulation that yohimbe can cause. You get all the benefits without any of the downsides. Western science has proven what the Chinese herbologists have known for so long. According to several studies Ligusticum suppresses production of “TNF alpha” -- an enzyme that secretes “stress hormones” such as cortisol and adrenaline (2). It’s these stress hormones that cause muscle breakdown and hamper your workout recovery. Ligusticum keeps your catabolic hormones at bay to allow muscle growth to come through full force!
#3 Xanthoparmelia Scabrosa 35% Piperazine
This is a complex plant like organism known as a lichen that has reputation of being a “longevity”plant. Like any ancient herb, the speculation about causation of the effects was based solely on trail, error, experience and observation. Well, once again, scientific studies show the validity of the claims. Xanthoparmelia is now being used in the prevention of certain cancers and it also has the unusual ability to increase testosterone and nitric oxide, so it too, will help bring about much stronger muscle pumps and more intense sexual pleasure (3). Another double kick-ass bonus for bodybuilders!
#4 Shilajit
One of the most popular compounds in Ayurvedic medicine is Shilajit. It is mostly used for its ability to aid in the absorption of micronutrients. Shilajit was discovered on a mountain top where there was an abundance of this tar-like substance near fossilized plants and volcanic rock. Interestingly, the animals in this region were eating Shilajit and they tended to grow much larger and live longer than their counterparts who lived at lower elevations! (4) Shilajit has since been used as an “underground” supplement and was reportedly used by Soviet Union Olympic athletes in combination with the anabolic steroids they supposedly were not using.
#5 3,4-Divanillyltetrahydrofuran
This is the concentrated active ingredient of Urtica Dioica. Utica Dioica in its natural form has been shown to increase “Free” testosterone. Your testosterone that is “Free” is the only kind that is usable for muscle growth. (5) All other Test, even if it’s high, is inert and will not help you build more muscle. The key is for you to get your free testosterone as high as possible and Urtica Dioica does just that. Divanillyltetrahydrofuran is the isolated active ingredient and is more than ten times more potent than whole Urtica Dioica. (6) I went into much greater detail about this compound in yesterday's report Gynecomastia & Dino, the Dancer Dude who Grew Double D's.
#6 Paeonia Lactiflora
This has been used in traditional medicine as a treatment for impotence and lack of stamina. As it turns out, it works! And Paeonia is now recommended by many doctors when liver enzymes are too high. (7) This is in accord with the “cleansing and clarifying” effects that the herbologists have advocated for years. This is especially valuable to bodybuilders since their livers are often taxed from various substances, so Paeonia Lactiflora will make everything else you stack it with work better.
#7 Fadogia Agrestis
Fadogia is the only natural substance shown to increase LH, luteinizing hormone, in laboratory animals, but blood test evidence from users shows that it works on the average gym rat as well! (8) LH is what allows the body to create more testosterone. This is of utmost value to anyone using anabolics or anyone who wants to take his testosterone levels way above normal. Age, anabolic steroid cycle recovery, and environmental toxins can cause your LH production to diminish. Fadogia helps to stave off that loss. And for the natural athlete, more LH production means more potential muscle building testosterone – but it’s your own! No suppression! Just the highest, healthiest levels your body can produce. I went into much greater detail about this compound in yesterday's report Gynecomastia & Dino, the Dancer Dude who Grew Double D's.
#8 Desmodium Gangeticum 10:1
Another secret Ayurvedic compound that raises testosterone, reduces inflammation , aids in recovery, supports the nervous system and increases sex drive. Studies have shown it lowers tissue destroying acids without toxicity or side effects. (9) It’s a MUST for anyone involved in heavy training.
#9 Avenacosides A&B
Do not be fooled by any company claiming that Avena Sativa is the same a Avenacosides! Avena Sativa is the oat plant and using it will be about as beneficial as eating a bowl of oatmeal. Avenacosides are a minute component of the plant and have the amazing ability to reduce sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG) . (10) Why is that important? Because SHBG is what keeps your testosterone from becoming biologically active. (11) When SHBG is lowered, your “free” testosterone soars along with your ability to build muscle! However, be careful what you buy because not all Avenacosides brands are created equally.
#10 Chlorophytum Borivilianum (Safed Musli)
This plant contains saponins that enhance immunity and enrich the hormonal system (boost test levels and lower estrogen). It has also been shown to increase ejaculate volume and the mobility of sperm cells. For this reason, it is even used as an alternative to fertility drugs with much success. (12) Safed Musli is one of the most coveted herbs in India for use in curing many illnesses due to a suppressed immunity system.
#11 ProLensis ™ Bulbine Natalensis
This is a proven compound shown to increase “overall” testosterone. (13) This was discovered with controlled studies on animals where overall testosterone was increased up to 347%! This combined with the “free” testosterone effects causes a full time release of maximum hormonal health and vigor. It’s important that the body continue manufacturing testosterone to maintain strength, aggression and testicular fullness. Nothing does this better than Bulbine Natalensis. I went into much greater detail about this compound in yesterday's report Gynecomastia & Dino, the Dancer Dude who Grew Double D's.
#12 Catuaba P.E. 4:1 Extract
Catuaba is a Costa Rican rain forest botanical used for a variety of health and strength inducing capabilities. It too has a reputation as a testosterone booster and as an aphrodisiac – in Brazil, where they get a chance to test it quite often! To this day Catuaba is the most popular pro-sexual aid in South America. It’s also been shown to have immunity enhancing effects making it a great addition bodybuilders who need fast recovery for hard training and cannot afford the lay off time from being tired or run down.
Purchasing all of these ingredients alone would cost A LOT of money, and this article explains just how great the ingredients are, and puts into perspective just how great these are together making the most comprehensive test boosting stack available in a single bottle!!
Big Balls - Top 12 Breakthrough Testosterone Delivery Compounds [VIDEOS]
Test Stack No. 17 is obviously a very powerful product, and it could be used as a very powerful product in post cycle therapy, or as part of a cycle to prevent shutdown and increase libido. Used standalone, Test Stack No. 17 can give you gains naturally that you never thought possible while sending your sex drive through the roof!!
If you are interested in picking up this revolutionary product, click this link and experience what many others are experiencing with Test Stack No. 17!!
http://w3.teststackrx.com/102.html
Looks more like a T boosting/pro sexual formula -- not much to lower estrogen. Though I think estrogen is overstated sometimes. It's east enough to control with arimidex (which is readily available) and natty supps like PF POST CYCLE. Forma too.
I'm not sure I'm ready to fork over a hundred bucks for this stuff, but I'm curious. It's out of stock anyway.
I'm not sure I'm ready to fork over a hundred bucks for this stuff, but I'm curious. It's out of stock anyway.
I can tell you right off the bat that this product isn't for everyone. some guys are better served getting placebo based supplements from walmart or GNC and paying 40 or 50 bucks for a product that cost $3 to make.
this is for the upper echelon type guy who wants to kill
I would agree with that. The product has a hefty price tag, but if you want the best then you have to pay for it.
Jigga14
New member
What do you guys think of the servicing size? 2 grams of active ingredient?? These are herbs not aas. Do a few mg of active herbs really do much? Hcgenerate is half the ingredients and twice the serving size. Would you say that the raw materials in hcgenerate aren't as pure as the Raws in this one? Or is this product underdosed??
It's not really like HCGen. No nutrients. No Trib. No fenugreek. No LJ. No DAA. It seems to have the best of HCGen, phytoserms and UNLEASHED, which tells me they know what they're doing. Of course, you can just use HCGen, phyoserms and UNLEASHED. And the dosages are listed. But if it's good and you have the dough, go for it.
It's like comparing apples to oranges since its very different profiles. Like Nelson said, its like taking the primary test boosting/libido enhancing ingredients from HCGenerate, Unleashed, and Phytoserms and others and making one formula. It has a hefty price tag, but cheaper than buying all of those other products separately. If you wanted the best that money could buy for your PCT or standalone without having to buy multiple products, then test stack 17 is the way to go.
This link will take you to their site to find out more, or to pick up a bottle
http://w3.teststackrx.com/102.html
If the price point is a little too steep for some, I have some nice discount offer codes in my signature below for 50$ off or buy two, get one free on Phytoserms-347
Ruthless Supplements
I am going to buy in bulk since i am almost out of rs transaderm and only heard really good things from good people about phytoserms
Those waiting on Test stack 17, it will be available starting TODAY!
Test stack is now available, and with some nice offers available for the time being...
Click the test stack banner in my sig, and use one of these codes!
For 20% off use HZI7WTBZ
For buy two, get one free use GET1FREE
*all 3 must be in cart for code to work.
Click the test stack banner in my sig, and use one of these codes!
For 20% off use HZI7WTBZ
For buy two, get one free use GET1FREE
*all 3 must be in cart for code to work.
If anybody needs any help with planning stacking or just general usage of their Test stack no.17 than feel free to PM me 
These codes below will get you guys some decent savings on your new test stack:
HZI7WTBZ For 20% off
GET1FREE For buy two, get one free
(remember to add all 3 to the cart before using it)
and then click here to grab yours: http://w3.teststackrx.com/100.html
These codes below will get you guys some decent savings on your new test stack:
HZI7WTBZ For 20% off
GET1FREE For buy two, get one free
(remember to add all 3 to the cart before using it)
and then click here to grab yours: http://w3.teststackrx.com/100.html
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If anybody needs any help with planning stacking or just general usage of their Test stack no.17 than feel free to PM me
These codes below will get you guys some decent savings on your new test stack:
HZI7WTBZ For 20% off
GET1FREE For buy two, get one free
(remember to add all 3 to the cart before using it)
Can both codes be used at once?
If anybody needs any help with planning stacking or just general usage of their Test stack no.17 than feel free to PM me
These codes below will get you guys some decent savings on your new test stack:
HZI7WTBZ For 20% off
GET1FREE For buy two, get one free
(remember to add all 3 to the cart before using it)
Can both codes be used at once?
unfortunately not bro, but that would be sweet though
Thanks for the codes guys. When are you guys running this? pct/standalone? after bridge?
mich29
Banned
both are great products just comes down to what you are using each for. I picked up a few bottles of Phytoserms if anyone needs help in getting some and is on a budget. I try to help out members when I can.
hossie I am running T stack RX with my cycle and i am blown away.. stuff is incredible. and phyto-serms is gonna be once again part of my pct. can't wait to run that again. i do notice my nuts are fuller while running them.
i've got the discounts and banners in my sig to make it easy. PM me if anyone needs help with their cycles/pct's
i've got the discounts and banners in my sig to make it easy. PM me if anyone needs help with their cycles/pct's
I originally ran test stack 17 as a standalone product to properly gauge its effectiveness and feel the full effects of it, and I have to say I was very impressed with it !
I'm going to make test stack a staple addition to my PCT line-up, it really does cover a lot of bases and makes a solid addition for any serious AAS cycle or hormone run.
With the codes I got for my elite bros it not too expensive either, so look to my signature for details and savings
If anybody needs any help, planning etc with either product, than please feel free to drop me a pm and ill do my best to advise and help you get the most from it
In my opinion this product would really shine in PCT. because of its extensive profile, it eliminates the need to buy multiple different products to cover recovery from different angles. The primary active ingredients in HCGenerate, PHYTOSERMS, and Unleashed are ALL part of the formula in Test stack no 17! That makes it perfect for PCT.
With that said, it would also be an incredible product to use as a bridge in between cycles or standalone for a nice performance boost and libido through the roof
Use these codes and link to save and experience the awesome results others are getting with Test stack No 17!
Buy 2 get 1 free -GET1FREE
20% off-HZI7WTBZ
http://w3.teststackrx.com/102.html
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