Philly schools to require African history class

[PICK3]

PHILADELPHIA, Philadelphia (AP) -- City high school students will be required to take a class in African and African American history to graduate, a move that education experts believe is unique in the nation.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/06/09/african.history.ap/index.html

 

[Gambino]

seems like a good idea...nothing wrong with diversity in knowledge

 

[PICK3]

seems like a good idea...nothing wrong with diversity in knowledge

Yeah, perhaps they should learn the history of Italy also.

 

[Gambino]

Yeah, perhaps they should learn the history of Italy also.

i learned a bit about Italy...you learn about European history, why not African as well???

 

[Razorguns]

PHILADELPHIA, Philadelphia (AP) -- City high school students will be required to take a class in African and African American history to graduate, a move that education experts believe is unique in the nation.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/06/09/african.history.ap/index.html

If there's a lot of african american students in that school...yeah, it makes sense.

 

[NJjuice22]

great idea, those people went through 400 years of sick pieces of shit...they deserve a class.

 

[Hengst]

Great news!!

Finally, a course in african history that will include an examination of the tribes that captured and sold their fellow africans to the atlantic slave trade, and to the arab slave trade.

Or do you think it will be an excersize in white guilt and only focus on the devil white man?... a la:
The African American Odyssey, by Darline Hine

A quick look at Amazon's review says the book "begins in sixteenth century Africa with the beginning of the forced migration of millions of Africans to the Americas. Succeeding chapters present the struggle of black people to maintain their humanity during the slave trade and as slaves in North America during the long colonial period."

 

[WODIN]

Kyl Whyty!


Lol!!!

 

[PICK3]

If there's a lot of african american students in that school...yeah, it makes sense.

Really? What if their are a few oriental students?

I think it should be offered as an elective ... not mandatory.

 

[Cutiebaby]

seems to me like it is a good idea....not to be rude but the african americans are every where now.....so we should have a class in order to graduate on there history

 

[Gambino]

Great news!!

Finally, a course in african history that will include an examination of the tribes that captured and sold their fellow africans to the atlantic slave trade, and to the arab slave trade.

Or do you think it will be an excersize in white guilt and only focus on the devil white man?... a la:
The African American Odyssey, by Darline Hine

A quick look at Amazon's review says the book "begins in sixteenth century Africa with the beginning of the forced migration of millions of Africans to the Americas. Succeeding chapters present the struggle of black people to maintain their humanity during the slave trade and as slaves in North America during the long colonial period."

just so you know bor their's a lot more to african history than the slave trade...you act as if this is the focus of african history

 

[Ish]

Why should it be required?

 

[Gambino]

Why should it be required?

why should european history be required? why should african history be excluded?

 

[Ish]

European history is required now?

why should european history be required? why should african history be excluded?

 

[Gambino]

European history is required now?

maybe it is different state to state, but in my high school everyone took euro history...in these days of budget tightening though, history classes proly get cut which is sad.
I took african history in college and thought it was really fucking good, applicable to understanding earth-wide human history...it's not all about the slave trade and such, like most seem to assume.
The hillbilly's and dumb crackas will surely make a scene out of this...

 

[bluepeter]

maybe it is different state to state, but in my high school everyone took euro history...in these days of budge tightening though, history classes proly get cut which is sad.
I took african history in college and thought it was really fucking good, applicable to understanding earth-wide human history...it's not all about the slave trade and such, like most seem to assume.
The hillbilly's and dumb crackas will surely make a scene out of this...

It's great to learn history other than that of your own country. They should make all kinds of history and language classes compulsory in my opinion.

 

[Ish]

We had American History and world history. Pretty much everything non-American was covered in those world history classes.

 

[bluepeter]

We had American History and world history. Pretty much everything non-American was covered in those world history classes.

I bet they did a good job covering everything.....lol

 

[Gambino]

I bet they did a good job covering everything.....lol

when they give 25 pages of a text to cover everything, they go really in depth

 

[bluepeter]

when they give 25 pages of a text to cover everything, they go really in depth

lol

I bet it goes something like '800 pages and 2 semesters to cover American history, 25 pages and 2 days to cover everything else'

 

[Ish]

They were seperate classes, actually. But, from what I remember, the books were skewed towards European history in the world history class.

 

[Vicious cycle]

Really? What if their are a few oriental students?

I think it should be offered as an elective ... not mandatory.

Bingo!

Great news!!

Finally, a course in african history that will include an examination of the tribes that captured and sold their fellow africans to the atlantic slave trade, and to the arab slave trade.

Or do you think it will be an excersize in white guilt and only focus on the devil white man?... a la:
The African American Odyssey, by Darline Hine

A quick look at Amazon's review says the book "begins in sixteenth century Africa with the beginning of the forced migration of millions of Africans to the Americas. Succeeding chapters present the struggle of black people to maintain their humanity during the slave trade and as slaves in North America during the long colonial period."

The Hispanic population now outnumbers the African American community and has become the new major minority in this country. How long before the pandering to African American's stops and they are pushed by the wayside to make room for the new king of minorities? Requiring this is as silly as companies apologizing for what happened 200 years ago.

All of those that are getting ready to type away slamming me consider this; The Dr. Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. graduated from Morehouse College in Georgia (1948) and Crozer Theological Seminary (1951) and then took a PhD from Boston University (1955). This was all done in a time when it TRULY was difficult for minorities to get a fair shake. He didn’t need extra points on entrance applications; he did it because he worked hard and deserved it.

 

[Hengst]

just so you know bor their's a lot more to african history than the slave trade...you act as if this is the focus of african history

It's my cynicism. 'diversity training' is usually an excersize in bashing whitey. Anyway, what else could they teach? Not one single SUB-SARAHA African tribe/group had a written language until they were colonized.

Not to diminish the artistic achievements of the Benin culture, or the stone ruins of Zimbabwe, the truth is, not much was going on on that continent. African explorers? Great inventions? Classical literature?

I do not want to turn this into some sort of school yard "i'm better than you" pissing contest, simply because I want the Africans to succeed !!! But the constant repetition of "It's all the white man's fault" is tired, lame and slowly being proven untrue and does NOTHING to promote true racial harmony. For ultimately, the African curriculum is an attempt to deconstruct and undermine Western Civilization and create more "dead white males." This has already been done pretty much in literature, where great writers like Joseph Conrad and Charles Dickens are now more and more overlooked.

What will happen with an "Afro-Centric" curriculum will be to start by saying that the Greek philosophers somehow plagiarized
African "geniuses" without giving them credit, so that for thousands of years we haven't realized all the African contributions. So before you know it, Plato, Socrates and Aristotle, among others, will enter the "black hole" of history, as has happened to more and more of the heroes of our race over the past several decades. And the curriculum will obviously end by emphasizing the evils of European colonialism and how, were it not for the evil Europeans, African nations would now be up to the level of the First World countries of the world.

 

[Gambino]

It's my cynicism. 'diversity training' is usually an excersize in bashing whitey. Anyway, what else could they teach? Not one single SUB-SARAHA African tribe/group had a written language until they were colonized.

Not to diminish the artistic achievements of the Benin culture, or the stone ruins of Zimbabwe, the truth is, not much was going on on that continent. African explorers? Great inventions? Classical literature?

I do not want to turn this into some sort of school yard "i'm better than you" pissing contest, simply because I want the Africans to succeed !!! But the constant repetition of "It's all the white man's fault" is tired, lame and slowly being proven untrue and does NOTHING to promote true racial harmony. For ultimately, the African curriculum is an attempt to deconstruct and undermine Western Civilization and create more "dead white males." This has already been done pretty much in literature, where great writers like Joseph Conrad and Charles Dickens are now more and more overlooked.

What will happen with an "Afro-Centric" curriculum will be to start by saying that the Greek philosophers somehow plagiarized
African "geniuses" without giving them credit, so that for thousands of years we haven't realized all the African contributions. So before you know it, Plato, Socrates and Aristotle, among others, will enter the "black hole" of history, as has happened to more and more of the heroes of our race over the past several decades. And the curriculum will obviously end by emphasizing the evils of European colonialism and how, were it not for the evil Europeans, African nations would now be up to the level of the First World countries of the world.

I hate the blame whitey shit too...but the african history classes i took in college had nothing to do with white peeps...to say that studying African history will somehow lead to the devaluing of plato/socrates is laughable.
Don't be afraid of knowledge...

 

[Hengst]

.....Don't be afraid of knowledge...

Experience has taught me that things will most likely work out the way I outlined them. After all this is a public school in a 2/3rds black, urban school system. Could it work out any other way?? It would be interesting to see what the syllabus for the proposed classes will be, though.

(don't worry about my 'fear of knowledge', I am very inquisitive. Indeed, it is this desire to learn that has led me to the positions I take today - well thought out and educated)

 

[Hengst]

.....the african history classes i took in college ......

That's the difference - COLLEGE - I also studied African History and African Political Systems in college as part of my political science major (EEK!!).

 

[Gambino]

That's the difference - COLLEGE - I also studied African History and African Political Systems in college as part of my political science major (EEK!!).

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certainly a college course taught by a proffessor is gonna be a higher quality than a inner city public school course...regardless, their is more to african history than you let on, it's not all slaves and illeteracy (ironic that i spelled it wrong lol)...i say teach the fuck out of it

 

[Breeze]

Great news!!

Finally, a course in african history that will include an examination of the tribes that captured and sold their fellow africans to the atlantic slave trade, and to the arab slave trade.

Or do you think it will be an excersize in white guilt and only focus on the devil white man?... a la:
The African American Odyssey, by Darline Hine

A quick look at Amazon's review says the book "begins in sixteenth century Africa with the beginning of the forced migration of millions of Africans to the Americas. Succeeding chapters present the struggle of black people to maintain their humanity during the slave trade and as slaves in North America during the long colonial period."

Wise observation, bro. I doubt that any class that teaches "black nationalism" will include any references to the African tribes who sold their neighbors into slavery, nor will it mention the fact that they are still doing it today in places like Sudan. Every race has been guilty of slavery and/or genocide at some point in history. Some white people allow themselves to be blamed for everything that's wrong in the world. White kids are told "You can't say that", you might offend so and so. Fuck that. People need to grow some nuts and be proud of who they are, regardless of their ethnicity. Black Nationalism is about teaching black kids that whitey is to be blamed for everything and to instill guilt in white kids. I just wonder how many of these kids will take these classes and graduate without learning how to read and write first.

 

[Breeze]

Experience has taught me that things will most likely work out the way I outlined them. After all this is a public school in a 2/3rds black, urban school system. Could it work out any other way?? It would be interesting to see what the syllabus for the proposed classes will be, though.

(don't worry about my 'fear of knowledge', I am very inquisitive. Indeed, it is this desire to learn that has led me to the positions I take today - well thought out and educated)

I've been seeing this "fear of knowledge" crap more and more lately. If you disagreed with a liberal in the past you were a "bigot, racist, or fascist". Now it seems that "fear of knowledge" is the new buzzword. You make good points and seem to have plenty of knowledge.

 

[Gambino]

I've been seeing this "fear of knowledge" crap more and more lately. If you disagreed with a liberal in the past you were a "bigot, racist, or fascist". Now it seems that "fear of knowledge" is the new buzzword. You make good points and seem to have plenty of knowledge.

eat a dick calling me a liberal...wtf you talking about

 

[Ulcasterdropout]

I think it should be offered as an elective ... not mandatory.

!!!!!!

 

[n0th1ng]

All of those that are getting ready to type away slamming me consider this; The Dr. Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. graduated from Morehouse College in Georgia (1948) and Crozer Theological Seminary (1951) and then took a PhD from Boston University (1955). This was all done in a time when it TRULY was difficult for minorities to get a fair shake. He didn’t need extra points on entrance applications; he did it because he worked hard and deserved it.

LoL! Martin Luther King cheated his way through college. His plagiarism is well documented, but the powers that be have done everything imaginable to hide this fact.

http://www.mugu.com/cgi-bin/Upstream/gross-mlk

 

[Breeze]

eat a dick calling me a liberal...wtf you talking about

I'm talking about you suggesting that a bro who makes a statement based on his educated opinion is somehow "afraid of knowledge". Thanks for recommending dick, but I'm not into that.