first off, quit acting like you guys are bodybuilding gods and know everything about steroids, i mean please there are so many underground labs these days you never know exactly what you're getting..... i agree not to just buy something from someone you know nothing about. but most people dont,all i was saying was the guy i get all my gear from sometimes gets things from different places, and so far he's been a very reliable source, but you just never know. so dont act like you've never gotten gear you weren't 100 percent sure about , the only people who say that are liars or oblivious to the fact they're buying illegal shit from illegal people, so nothings guaranteed.