Pharmaceutical grade vs UG? Which do you prefer?

[Izzman]

As the topic implies, for those that have used pharmaceutical grade gear (QV and etc.) as well as several UG labs, which would you say was definitely better for you (Considering quality and cost)? I have run several cycles all mainly with UG gear, 2 of them were awsome, one of them I felt was bunk or underdosed (recently from a source that dissapeared, coincidence?). However, my brother is now cycling some QV Enanthate (500mg/week) for his first cycle and his cycle is shaping up to be one hell of a cycle than mine ever was (I also ran first cycle at 500mg Enanthate/week)! He is up 16lbs in four weeks with minimal bloat, compared to my bloated ass on 500mg test! So for those that have run both, which do you prefer and stick with regularly? I know many will say it depends on the UG lab, but just out of personal experiences, which was better for you?

 

[satchboogie]

read this;

http://www.steroidsinfo101.com/humangrade.htm

 

[buffalo]

I'll take the ug. If you got good stuff some of the ug's out now day's are just as good as your pharm stuff. The price is also better. Obviously that's only with certain ug's though. Just my opinion though.

 

[Bruce]

satch would u rather use qv or a well known ug like british dragon

 

[organon250]

If you do your homework you can go UG if an outfit is top notch and wants a good reputation they'll take the necessary precautions and procedures to make sure they send a good product out the door...if the UG lab's been around for awhile and has consistent positive feedback I would say go for them its just a matter of track record.

 

[alltraps]

UG is good to go, and cant beat the prices, you just have to know which lab to use. they are just as good,if not better then HG

 

[satchboogie]

satch would u rather use qv or a well known ug like british dragon

mmm..
neither to be honest.

but i HAD to choose one..
id pick BD from a solid source thats the key.

 

[needsize]

UG is good to go, and cant beat the prices, you just have to know which lab to use. they are just as good,if not better then HG

exactly, in 4 years I've gone from 180-260lbs, and only one cycle was human grade, I couldnt have afforded to do it on HG prices

 

[satchboogie]

exactly, in 4 years I've gone from 180-260lbs, and only one cycle was human grade, I couldnt have afforded to do it on HG prices

80 pounds in 4 years??????????????

 

[Bruce]

mmm..
neither to be honest.

but i HAD to choose one..
id pick BD from a solid source thats the key.

i know your a primo whore, you probably only rock the sherring. how the hell do you take a dose of 600 a week or more without killing becoming a pin cushion. cause personally i was all ready to do organon deca but realized it was 100/ml and decided to stick with higher concentrated, the reliability of my friends is great so ug's i know are real

 

[satchboogie]

try 10ml of primo per week!
it aint pleasant.

but chu gotta do whatchu gotta do..

 

[krishna]

What do you guys think of UG from China? I'm particularly interested in the nolva.

 

[Bruce]

try 10ml of primo per week!
it aint pleasant.

but chu gotta do whatchu gotta do..

yeah but i am real trim no fat at all, and glutes are not very big. i got a sterile infection from hitin my left glute too much. thats why going with organon worries me cause i need 600 a week. sterile infection is too much juice in one area and u need cephulaxen an antibiotic to kill it. feels like a big knot of pain in your ass and it won't go away without the medicine which requires a doc, so my affinity for 300/ml deca is due to the fact that it only requires two shots a week

 

[Tux]

UG all the way, I only use my own oils. I'll buy tabs b/c I freakin' HATE capping powders or taking liquid solutions for orals, but injectables I make all my own. It's no problem to take a larger dose when I can make my test enth and EQ at 500mg/ml with no pain hehe. Primo I've not made higher than 200mg/ml, but that's pain-free too, and who can afford enough primo to need more than 200mg/ml concentration? No one I know!... 'cept maybe satch lol

 

[needsize]

80 pounds in 4 years??????????????

yup, I'm not as lean as I was at 180lbs, but I would probably be at a similar bf at 235-240lbs, not bad for 4 years

 

[Muscle Mafia]

I'll take the ug. If you got good stuff some of the ug's out now day's are just as good as your pharm stuff. The price is also better. Obviously that's only with certain ug's though. Just my opinion though.

True dat! plus I not sure I would call QV pharmaceutical grade. It's vet gear.

 

[Muscle Mafia]

What do you guys think of UG from China? I'm particularly interested in the nolva.

I personally don't trust anything from China. Find a local source.

 

[buffalo]

True dat! plus I not sure I would call QV pharmaceutical grade. It's vet gear.

True. I would not say i would never use Qv but i'd hardly call it pharmaceutical grade. I've heard of more infections from mexican gear than any other.

 

[Izzman]

So bascially what I'm getting from this thread is that nowadays most people believe that UG is the way to go, right?

 

[krishna]

I personally don't trust anything from China. Find a local source.

Thanks for your opinion. Anyone else have an opinion on China gear?

 

[muscleup]

yes.....Good shit for sure

Thanks for your opinion. Anyone else have an opinion on China gear?

 

[alltraps]

So bascially what I'm getting from this thread is that nowadays most people believe that UG is the way to go, right?

YES, cost, quality and availability is key

 

[krishna]

yes.....Good shit for sure

I was hoping someone would say that.

 

[Guvna]

As the topic implies, for those that have used pharmaceutical grade gear (QV and etc.) as well as several UG labs, which would you say was definitely better for you (Considering quality and cost)? I have run several cycles all mainly with UG gear, 2 of them were awsome, one of them I felt was bunk or underdosed (recently from a source that dissapeared, coincidence?). However, my brother is now cycling some QV Enanthate (500mg/week) for his first cycle and his cycle is shaping up to be one hell of a cycle than mine ever was (I also ran first cycle at 500mg Enanthate/week)! He is up 16lbs in four weeks with minimal bloat, compared to my bloated ass on 500mg test! So for those that have run both, which do you prefer and stick with regularly? I know many will say it depends on the UG lab, but just out of personal experiences, which was better for you?

what UG brand did you think was underdosed/bunk?

 

[Güclü_oglan]

well "pharm-grade" doesn't always mean good quality. Remember all countries has got different laws. Some countries only require you to pay for a license for a number of products you can produce and it's then pharm grade, often it has nothing to do with sanitary conditions (unless made in the west, if you think about it not many pharm grade stuff are made in the west that we use)

so i'll go with the other ones and say UG is the way to go (after homebrewing of course wich is the future)

 

[LVTitan]

i've used UG, and vet and HG. by the way , qv is not HG gear, even though it is made by a legitimate company remember that.
i have used a lot of qv, and have NO complaints with it. most of my gear has been either qv or UG, my only HG gear was turkish schering primos.
for the price i will stick with qv or ug personally.