Pct?

[big tav]

How important is it? When I was 20-23 I did a 6 or so cycles and never used anything except Nolvadax. It wasn't until late guys told me about HCG etc.

I have a bit of gear and want to do another cycle after a 5 year break from using but I can't find and HCG in Oz.

The other cycles I didn't use HCG didn't seem to harm me other than the shinking nuts and a bit of gyno that went back down.

If I can't get any should I still use my gear or aviod it at all costs?

Please only reply if you are experienced in this area. Thanks.

 

[big tav]

I might add that I am quite experienced in takeing steroids and have competed at state level (2nd place) so I am not a newbie and I know how HCG works and I would take it if I had it. I just need to know what to do if I can't find it.

Australia is a bit dry!

 

[immortalis]

I've never used it either and I have 6 cycles under my belt. However I plan on using HCG for my next pct because this is really the first time ive experienced significant testicular shrinkage from a cycle (30 weeks long is prolly why... lol). Since coming off that cycle, it has takin me a very long time to even FEEL normal. So I want to try and prevent or at least minimalize the effects as much as possible and get my nuts back full and pumpin asap by using HCG for pct.

I mostly just use Clomid/Nolvadex for my PCTs, but the clomid makes me an overly sensitive, chick-flick-loving fag

 

[OMEGA]

PCT is as important as the cyle itself

when half lives of Drug fall to a low level
start hcg 2000 iu evry 3rd or 4th day (10-12 days which is 3-4 shots)
Ai throughout
after HCG end start Clomid

continue with AI and Clomid for about 3-4 weeks

 

[big tav]

I know HCG is VERY important...but...if I don't have it should I never use my gear again?

 

[SwolK]

how long of a cycle are you planning?

i have done 10 week cycle several times without hcg and recoverd fine

 

[njmuscleguy]

I know HCG is VERY important...but...if I don't have it should I never use my gear again?

HCG is more for aesthetics (size) than anything else....maybe jump-start libido a bit....HCG is especially desirable for those who run longer cycles... Clomid/Nolva plus a good AI are the most important aspects of PCT (oh, and keep eating big and training hard!)

 

[macrophage69alpha]

how about CLOMID?

any reason that you chose to use nolva for PCT? something for which it is not well established

 

[big tav]

I have never heard of Clomid being used in gyms over in Australia. Maybe the hightest level guys get a hold of it but most gym guys just use Nolva. I got a hold of HCG once (Pregnyl and Profasi) but that was when I had a doctor that would prescribe anything.

I was planning on doing a 12 week course.

 

[solidspine]

If you skip pct, you run a great risk of losing your gains, and it takes longer for your nuts to return to normal

 

[Mr.X]

How important is it? .

It's crucial. If you can't do PCT, don't bother doing a cycle!

 

[OMEGA]

It's crucial. If you can't do PCT, don't bother doing a cycle!

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[big tav]

Is HCG and Nolva enough?

 

[Mr.X]

Is HCG and Nolva enough?

in most cases, yes... adding a low dose of arimidex .25mgs ED/EOD is also a good idea.