Gots to agree with Sigmund...thats a killer cycle on cholesterol levels...and especially the o'l liver and kidney's!!! Var is a very mild steroid..while winny will shut you down harder....with these two orals your cycle shouldn't have went longer than 7 weeks bro...tops.....just to be safe. I've had bros run two orals at some pretty high dosages for longer...but their just meatheads and could care less about liver/kidney damage. I really doubt you'll need HCG...and as a matter of fact...i'd stay away from it for a winny/var cycle. Just go with the standard clomid PCT regime...and you'll be fine. How did this cycle work for ya...i'm going to run a winny/var cycle in a few months.....looking forward to this cutter!