PCT Question

[dosteov]

I'm on my first cycle 500mg Test 400mg EQ. I'm in week 11 of 14. I keep reading that testicular atrophy is quite common with cycles. This hasn't happened to me. Is it as common with Test in your cycle?

Also if my boys don't shut down by week 14 should I still run HCG post cycle or just chlomid? I was planning on starting HCG one week after my last injections. 1000 ius 3x a week for 2 weeks.

What do you guys think?

Thanks a lot guys in advance...

 

[Mr. Black]

Your balls will atrohpy to some extent...some get it worse than others. Also note that you can still be shutdown even without atrophy. You WILL most cxertainly beshut down to some degree by week 14. Run the HCG MWF 1000iuMWf for weeks 1-3 PCT then follow a Nolca20mg/day & Clomid 50mg/day for weeks 1-6.

 

[dosteov]

Your balls will atrohpy to some extent...some get it worse than others. Also note that you can still be shutdown even without atrophy. You WILL most cxertainly beshut down to some degree by week 14. Run the HCG MWF 1000iuMWf for weeks 1-3 PCT then follow a Nolca20mg/day & Clomid 50mg/day for weeks 1-6.

Should I start the HCG earlier like next week? My sex drive has pretty much already collapsed. And I just started dating a new girl so the lack of sex drive is NO GOOD!!!

 

[oubeta]

Order you some Cialis form A-guys. Will solve that problem.

 

[Mr. Black]

Should I start the HCG earlier like next week? My sex drive has pretty much already collapsed. And I just started dating a new girl so the lack of sex drive is NO GOOD!!!

Go for it. If you time it right the HCG ,EQ/Test should all be out of your system at the same time, whereby you can start the reocovery process without hinderance of lingering compounds in your system.

 

[nydj66]

Your balls will atrohpy to some extent...some get it worse than others. Also note that you can still be shutdown even without atrophy. You WILL most cxertainly beshut down to some degree by week 14. Run the HCG MWF 1000iuMWf for weeks 1-3 PCT then follow a Nolca20mg/day & Clomid 50mg/day for weeks 1-6.

At your dosages you are shut down; no question. 14 weeks is a fairly long cycle and HCG use is recommended. Many men do not notice significant testicular shrinkage on a cycle but they suffer a loss of function none-the-less.

I agree with the recommendation to use 1,000IU MWF for weeks 1-3. I also like the 20mg/day of nolvadex with 50mg/day of clomid but I don't think you need that until weeks 4-6. Before that there will be too much testosterone in your system for those two SERMS to be able to restore your hypothalamus and pituitary. After week 3 your testosterone will drop and estrogen will be dominant; that's when nolvadex and clomid do their thing.

 

[Mr. Black]

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I agree with the recommendation to use 1,000IU MWF for weeks 1-3. I also like the 20mg/day of nolvadex with 50mg/day of clomid but I don't think you need that until weeks 4-6. .

Some people can be be quite susceptible to the estrogen spike from HCG. Myself I know I'd have no problems runninh HCG solo, However the next guy might have probs, hence the possibility of addding some Nolva and/or Clomid serving as an anti-e only...you are right that the benefits for restoration of one's HPTA will not be seen till weeks 4-6 after all the compounds have cleared....