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Pct? Just to skate until next cycle?

is that somthing you would do if you were planning on waiting a long time between cycles, or even if you wernt planning to cycle again at all?

Good on ya for listening to the members here man; they know a lot but their harsh treatment can turn some people thin skin or thick skulls away. Clearly you have neither :supercool

Bridges can be run no matter the time between your cycles - a lot of guys like to bridge out of their PCT and then run a mini PCT after the bridge so that you lose less by elongating and amplifying your recovery. People have already mentioned a lot of great bridge supplements here.

Ostarine (MK-2866) SARMS seems to be a favorite, and for good reason - Its outstanding for recovery and geared for pure anabolism without suppression. If you're planning a bridge (after more cycle research of course), I would look into Sarmssearch OSTA. Best quality and purity Ostarine available.
 
Good on ya for listening to the members here man; they know a lot but their harsh treatment can turn some people thin skin or thick skulls away. Clearly you have neither :supercool

Bridges can be run no matter the time between your cycles - a lot of guys like to bridge out of their PCT and then run a mini PCT after the bridge so that you lose less by elongating and amplifying your recovery. People have already mentioned a lot of great bridge supplements here.

Ostarine (MK-2866) SARMS seems to be a favorite, and for good reason - Its outstanding for recovery and geared for pure anabolism without suppression. If you're planning a bridge (after more cycle research of course), I would look into Sarmssearch OSTA. Best quality and purity Ostarine available.

I totally agree. Bridging with sarmsearch products both maintains and adds to strengrh and size gains from a cycle!

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Jeez... What if you want to PCT and then just... Not lol. One cycle, proper PCT then time off to back to normal. It sounds like this bridge is another form of steroid itself, and then would be pointless to do if you wernt plannin to cycle again?
 
Jeez... What if you want to PCT and then just... Not lol. One cycle, proper PCT then time off to back to normal. It sounds like this bridge is another form of steroid itself, and then would be pointless to do if you wernt plannin to cycle again?

No not useless.........let me put it this way (I'm oversimplifying but this is generally how it works);

Your gains from a cycle, even with a PCT are going to slowly dissipate over time until they reach a certain point. If you do a cycle and DONT continue to eat the calories to maintain the muscle mass afterwards, you will lose almost all of your gains if not all of them. If you do a cycle with a full and proper PCT and continue to eat calories to support your muscle mass, you will still likely lose some over time, but not nearly as much. Doing a bridge out of your PCT followed by a mini PCT ensures that the majority of that muscle stays put granted youre eating properly.

In my mind, the longer you're able to draw out your PCT (I.E. through bridging and mini PCT) the longer your gains will stay without cycling again and more of your gains will stick around.

I'm tired and I dont know if that was even coherent, but there you go
 
Coherent, but still confusing. In that way, your never really "off" are you? I assume your bridging with other AAS?
 
Coherent, but still confusing. In that way, your never really "off" are you? I assume your bridging with other AAS?

Oh no you do go off, it just takes a longer time before you do. By bridging with other AAS do you mean running your bridge with AAS? Or bridging into the beginning of another cycle?

If you meant the former then no, the brige is meant to draw out recovery in order to solidify gains, so you wouldnt be taking AAS. If the latter, then you probably wouldnt be using SARMS for a bridge. This would be more of what you were talking about beforehand....

Some guys prefer to use the "blast and cruise" method with very intense cycle that are bridged with lower doses of test in between. In this scenario, you never really go "off", but the goal of this method is to maintain gains between cycles without really recovering.

Reading back into your previous post, bridging is not done with steroids and it is not meant to be like a cycle of AAS......just to clear that up. The goal of a bridge is to extend the body's recovery back into life without AAS. PCT does a good job of this, but its still an abrupt change for the body to go from being all hopped up on youthful hormones to returning to the way it was previously in a matter of weeks. The body responds to abrupt change by making its own abrupt changes, I.E. possibly losing gains. Extending this transition smoothens the return to normal and lessens the blow of dropping off cycle.

Hopefully that makes a little more sense. My advice would be to try a cycle with a bridge and try one without and feel the difference for yourself - in my mind thats really the only way to find out if anything is truly right for you :artist:
 
So if one does a cycle. Should they expect to not make any natty gains? Assume I run a 12 week test e cycle with standard pct. Am I wrong to expect natty gains 2 months after pct?
 
So if one does a cycle. Should they expect to not make any natty gains? Assume I run a 12 week test e cycle with standard pct. Am I wrong to expect natty gains 2 months after pct?

No no thats not what I'm trying to say. What I'm saying is that if you're at your natural limit and you cycle and make gains, its going to be hard to even keep those gains - you're going to have to eat a LOT more and exercise accordingly.

So it really depends on where you're at personally.
 
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