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njmuscleguy

njmuscleguy

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Hey folks,

Just thought I'd share my results so far of my current PCT regimen. First, the cycle:

Wks 1-4 Dbol 30mg ED
Wks 1-8 Test Prop 100mg ED
Wks 1-8 NPP 100mg EOD
Wks 1-8 Proviron 50mg ED
AIFM 1-2 sprays ED

PCT:
Last 10 days of cycle, I ran 500iu HCG ED, then, the day after last shot,
So far.....
Wks 1-4 Clomid 50mg ED
Wks 1-4 Proviron 50mg ED
Wks 3-4 Dbol in AM 10mg ED
AIFM 1 spray ED

2 weeks into my PCT and my workouts were better than ever, even better than during cycle... I attribute this to modified diet though (increased calories & carbs during PCT). Proviron has also helped prevent "crash". Clomid sides were a bit rough during the first week or so but they got better.

At week 3 of PCT, I started to lose strength and libido was going down a bit, so I started up the AM dbol method. Now, at start of Week 5, I'm feeling pretty damn good again. Strength is up, so is libido, and mood.

I think I'm going to run 6 weeks total for PCT, but am debating on whether or not I should continue the Proviron and Dbol beyond Week 4. I'm concerned about their degree of suppression, if any. I may just run them for the entire course of PCT as an experiment, then stop everything for at least 2 weeks, then get bloodwork done.

Any feedback, similar experiences, etc. welcome!
Thanks for "listening"!
 
Well, all of my PCT's thus far have pretty much failed....miserably....always crashed, never recovered properly.... it could also very well be that my natural test levels just aren't "normal" for my age... but to avoid the crash, I decided to try the AM dbol method, which has been getting alot of buzz lately.
 
njmuscleguy said:
Well, all of my PCT's thus far have pretty much failed....miserably....always crashed, never recovered properly.... it could also very well be that my natural test levels just aren't "normal" for my age... but to avoid the crash, I decided to try the AM dbol method, which has been getting alot of buzz lately.
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interesting, i've been away from the buzz as of late - do you have any direct links?
 
I should also mention, I've started IGF today too (first time)... will be doing 60mcg ED for 4 weeks
 
mm107 said:
NJ muscle, did u say you took HCG for the last 10 days of cycle? or for the 10 days after your last injection...

im gonna run 500i.u /ed but dont know exactyl wehn to throw it in
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since I ran short easters only, I ran the HCG during the last 10 days of my cycle... had I done enanthate for example, I would've run the HCG 1-3 days after my last enanthate shot

what was your cycle?
 
Ulter said:
Unlike Clomid or other PCT aids, HCG doesn't have to be used when the ester clears. It works whether you're on or off. So you can start it for PCT in the last week of your cycle so it doesn't overlap with the clomid.
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Really. I thought it was best used once the ester had cleared or at least reached its first half life. So if I have eq in my cycle I can start HCG the day after my last injection then the HCG will still be effective in restarting things with all of the ester still in my system?
 
srf173 said:
Really. I thought it was best used once the ester had cleared or at least reached its first half life. So if I have eq in my cycle I can start HCG the day after my last injection then the HCG will still be effective in restarting things with all of the ester still in my system?
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yep, HCG is supprisive by itself, its not goin to make a diff if u still have eq in your system
 
Cutt29 said:
yep, HCG is supprisive by itself, its not goin to make a diff if u still have eq in your system
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Ok. So then why don't more people take it while on cycle to keep the HPTA up and running? Because taking it the day after your cycle ends is no differant than taking it on cycle. Or is the point that if you start taking it the day after the cycle ends and you use it for 10-20 days that by that time most of the ester will have cleared and the HPTA is primed and ready for PCT? Sorry njmuscle, don't mean to take away form your post.
 
srf173 said:
Ok. So then why don't more people take it while on cycle to keep the HPTA up and running? Because taking it the day after your cycle ends is no differant than taking it on cycle. Or is the point that if you start taking it the day after the cycle ends and you use it for 10-20 days that by that time most of the ester will have cleared and the HPTA is primed and ready for PCT? Sorry njmuscle, don't mean to take away form your post.
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I may be botching this up big time, but my understanding is that HCG mimics LH and it directly stimulates the Leydig Cells in the testes to produce testosterone... I don't think it directly affects the HPTA... if anything, it may even supress it further... HCG is used more so for "aesthetics", while the SERM (nolva/clomid) and AI are getting your back back to normal levels
 
njmuscleguy said:
I may be botching this up big time, but my understanding is that HCG mimics LH and it directly stimulates the Leydig Cells in the testes to produce testosterone... I don't think it directly affects the HPTA... if anything, it may even supress it further... HCG is used more so for "aesthetics", while the SERM (nolva/clomid) and AI are getting your back back to normal levels
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I thought standard PCT protocal ( at least w/ long esters) was to wait a 7-10 days before starting HCG? Is there some type of benefit to starting it earlier?
 
glad this PCT is working for you, i know you have had problems in the past.

to everyone else:
i made the mistake of starting HCG and Clomid at the same time after my Test Prop and Winny cycle... had a very hard recovery due to this. i say always run the hcg before clomid or nolv no matter if using long or short acting esters...Just my opinion
 
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