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Therealdeal06555

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Been on for 4 months:

Test E 500 Mgs week
EQ 600mgs week

Pct was gonna be :
Test E 250mg wk1-3
Proviron 100 Mgs 1-4
Hcg 1000iu Every 5 days

Stanzol been using since and will continue through pct
Adex and letro on hand

What else should I include?
 
This is not a pct

Run the hcg get some clomid
And some post cycle / unleashed from ntbm

Using the test at 250 mgs is not pct it will still supress your hpta


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Therealdeal06555 said:
Been on for 4 months:

Test E 500 Mgs week
EQ 600mgs week

Pct was gonna be :
Test E 250mg wk1-3
Proviron 100 Mgs 1-4
Hcg 1000iu Every 5 days

Stanzol been using since and will continue through pct
Adex and letro on hand

What else should I include?
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That's the dumbest pct I ever seen?? U can't include an aas as pct, it suppresses you dude??
 
Sometimes people amaze me. Steroids in a 'POST CYCLE Therapy'?? I'm worried for you OP, seems you may do yourself some serious harm if you dont do quick research.
 
^^^yes but he's been here 3 years and I want to see who told him to run that kind of PCT. it definately was not on this site.

i actually would like to see him not run any cycles until he understands why he shouldn't do what he wrote.. lets fix the root problem and not complicate things for him
 
stevesmi said:
^^^yes but he's been here 3 years and I want to see who told him to run that kind of PCT. it definately was not on this site.

i actually would like to see him not run any cycles until he understands why he shouldn't do what he wrote.. lets fix the root problem and not complicate things for him
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Thats a great point, thats the reason I'm here. But the dude is on it now.....to late for research at this point I'd say. I wish I could help.
 
Therealdeal06555 said:
Been on for 4 months:

Test E 500 Mgs week
EQ 600mgs week

Pct was gonna be :
Test E 250mg wk1-3
Proviron 100 Mgs 1-4
Hcg 1000iu Every 5 days

Stanzol been using since and will continue through pct
Adex and letro on hand

What else should I include?
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Ok, first order of business; toss the fuckin test right out of your pct plan! Good, now you will use the hcg immediately and the adex will help, but you should probably get some post cycle/unleashed as your base in all your pct plans. However get a lil but more knowledgable before you go off joosn again. Please go slap whoever gave you that plan in the first place!
Hcg 500 iu's 2 x's a wk
Pc / unleashed 1 cap ed
Forma 5 pumps am 5 pumps pm
Proviron / adex.
 
danoman27 said:
Thats a great point, thats the reason I'm here. But the dude is on it now.....to late for research at this point I'd say. I wish I could help.
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This is why you may feel you got quite a frosty reception Dan. The Op is probably going to learn the hard way about anabolic steroid abuse, and we all want people to enjoy and recover fully from their cycles. It's tp prevent people being misinformed and then being up the proverbial creek.

It's absolutely senseless to use steroids in a PCT. The point of a PCT is to return to your normal, natural state, hopefully with the gains you achieved on cycle. I think the OP thinks he is doing good by tapering off the Test, but this is not good. You should use on cycle support to make your recovery smoother.

Here is what i recommend.

Come off cycle

PCT
Next day - 1500IU's HCG
1 week after this 1000IU's HCG

From 1st day of PCT
Unleashed/post cycle (full course)
Use the forma 5 pumps am 5 pumps pm for at least 6 weeks. try and taper off the last two weeks.

After 1st phase of PCT
Bridge or HCGenerate if you can get it - full course
 
rich_89 said:
This is why you may feel you got quite a frosty reception Dan. The Op is probably going to learn the hard way about anabolic steroid abuse, and we all want people to enjoy and recover fully from their cycles. It's tp prevent people being misinformed and then being up the proverbial creek.

It's absolutely senseless to use steroids in a PCT. The point of a PCT is to return to your normal, natural state, hopefully with the gains you achieved on cycle. I think the OP thinks he is doing good by tapering off the Test, but this is not good. You should use on cycle support to make your recovery smoother.

Here is what i recommend.

Come off cycle

PCT
Next day - 1500IU's HCG
1 week after this 1000IU's HCG

From 1st day of PCT
Unleashed/post cycle (full course)
Use the forma 5 pumps am 5 pumps pm for at least 6 weeks. try and taper off the last two weeks.

After 1st phase of PCT
Bridge or HCGenerate if you can get it - full course
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Is the bridge necessary if your not cycling in the future? Is this just adding to natty boost just like the HCGenerate?
 
Yes and no mate. Bridge is basically a compound very similar to HCGenerate, but it has half the amount of the active/main ingredient Fadogia Agrestis, which is the money substance!

So what bridge does is it allows you to taper back down to your natural state, without coming off with a bang! It is ideal for bridging between cycles, but it is also useful for assisting your body as much as possible in coming back to the start line. We don't want any nasty hormonal spikes or rebounds that cause distressful side effects. I've currently got some acne, it's a horrid reality. I'll definitely run bridge after my pct.

But then again, it's by no means essential, as after a well planned and executed PCT, you should recover well (should being the operative word)

Let me clarify, you taper down on PCT/AIs etc, but you DO NOT taper steroids, the half lives of them substances does that for you!
 
rich_89 said:
This is why you may feel you got quite a frosty reception Dan. The Op is probably going to learn the hard way about anabolic steroid abuse, and we all want people to enjoy and recover fully from their cycles. It's tp prevent people being misinformed and then being up the proverbial creek.

It's absolutely senseless to use steroids in a PCT. The point of a PCT is to return to your normal, natural state, hopefully with the gains you achieved on cycle. I think the OP thinks he is doing good by tapering off the Test, but this is not good. You should use on cycle support to make your recovery smoother.
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I agree with you, Rich in regards to both Dano's reception and with the idea of putting steroids in a PCT. As Steve said, how did you learn this?

For PCT, I like to start Forma 2 weeks before the end of cycle. I jump on Unleashed and Forged Post Cycle a week after last inject (I'm using Sus so I wait a little due to the longer esters.) I add Bridge around the same time. I also use creatine beginning mid cycle and that definitely helps.
 
Its crazy how this topic came up! Talked to a well known and respected bodybuilder at my gym who has been juicing for 20 yrs told me to pyramid down my dose after my 12 week cycle which is test e 500mg a week and remind you this is my first cycle and also running dbol as a kicker now! But this is what he told me to:

Week
13 - 400mg
14 - 300mg
15 - 200mg
16 - 100 mg
17 - start pct plan

Not going to do this bc it makes no sense bc I'm not completely coming off test for 16 weeks! It's crazy to me he said I will recover better if I pyramid down my dose so I don't put my body into hormonal shock
 
DtownG said:
Its crazy how this topic came up! Talked to a well known and respected bodybuilder at my gym who has been juicing for 20 yrs told me to pyramid down my dose after my 12 week cycle which is test e 500mg a week and remind you this is my first cycle and also running dbol as a kicker now! But this is what he told me to:

Week
13 - 400mg
14 - 300mg
15 - 200mg
16 - 100 mg
17 - start pct plan

Not going to do this bc it makes no sense bc I'm not completely coming off test for 16 weeks! It's crazy to me he said I will recover better if I pyramid down my dose so I don't put my body into hormonal shock
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The key words in your post was "20 yrs experienced" and by that I take it that he's completely old school! That's what they did in the 70's-80's bc pct wasn't around or considered. The tapering effect to me doesn't matter at all bc whether it 500mgs or 200mgs your bodies natty test is still suppressed! So there is no benefit to that at all! You just gotta find a way to bridge or ease into the pct phase without an interruption.
 
DtownG said:
Its crazy how this topic came up! Talked to a well known and respected bodybuilder at my gym who has been juicing for 20 yrs told me to pyramid down my dose after my 12 week cycle which is test e 500mg a week and remind you this is my first cycle and also running dbol as a kicker now! But this is what he told me to:

Week
13 - 400mg
14 - 300mg
15 - 200mg
16 - 100 mg
17 - start pct plan

Not going to do this bc it makes no sense bc I'm not completely coming off test for 16 weeks! It's crazy to me he said I will recover better if I pyramid down my dose so I don't put my body into hormonal shock
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Thats just broscience mate! Never listen to beefcakes in the gym. They usually (always) know nothing! You dont need to taper down steroids, because they naturally taper down due to their half lives. So for example take beastdrol, it has about an 8hr half life. So after 8 hours you have half the amount you had 8 hrs ago remaining in you system. Then 8 hours later you have half again. Simple.

So its senseless tapering down on any steroid. Just stop, wait for any esters to clear/begin to clear then start PCT.
 
He's attempting to pre pct guys
 
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