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PCT for test w/ creatine

maxpain

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Yes needed, A little needed, none needed, etc? You get the point. I need some help.

Test==1cc every 3 days
creatine--normal dose

Both for eight weeks.

Any PCT needed? If so, recommends.

THANKS !!

Maxpain
 
LOL. What is the concentration of Testos? 1cc of 200mg/cc is different than 1cc of 100mg/cc. You need PCT for all AAS cycles and all amounts.
 
DrJMW said:
LOL. What is the concentration of Testos? 1cc of 200mg/cc is different than 1cc of 100mg/cc. You need PCT for all AAS cycles and all amounts.

your 1cc of test could have been anywhere from 50mgs-400mgs a cc so that doesnt help much
 
DrJMW said:
LOL. What is the concentration of Testos? 1cc of 200mg/cc is different than 1cc of 100mg/cc. You need PCT for all AAS cycles and all amounts.

Doc, now I am confussed. What exactly do you mean? I thought a cc was a cc. But apparently not. Still need some PCT help.

Thanks
 
Maxpain--a Simple Example. Suppose You Send Me To The Store For A Carton Of Eggs. Well, Quess What? The Store Now Has Cartons Of Six Eggs, 12 Eggs And 18 Eggs? You Didn't Specify Which Number Of Eggs Per Carton You Wanted. You Must, So I Do Not Make An Error.

Cc Is A Volume. Mg Is A Mass (amount Of Stuff). Mg/cc Is A Strength Or Concentration. We Must Know The Strength (eggs Per Carton) To Know The Number Of Eggs In One Carton Total. Review This Example.
 
DrJMW said:
Maxpain--a Simple Example. Suppose You Send Me To The Store For A Carton Of Eggs. Well, Quess What? The Store Now Has Cartons Of Six Eggs, 12 Eggs And 18 Eggs? You Didn't Specify Which Number Of Eggs Per Carton You Wanted. You Must, So I Do Not Make An Error.

Cc Is A Volume. Mg Is A Mass (amount Of Stuff). Mg/cc Is A Strength Or Concentration. We Must Know The Strength (eggs Per Carton) To Know The Number Of Eggs In One Carton Total. Review This Example.

Doc are you trying to f&ck with me?? LOL. Now where can I find this info at? Just tell me and I will look to get whatever info you need. YES, I am a dumbass. I need it in laymans terms!

THANKS !!
 
is not complicated what they want to know to answer your question is how many mg per cc is does solution contains,example t-200 is 200mg per cc,t-50 is only 50 mg of test per cc. It should read on the back of your bottle how many mg per cc you are getting of each ingredient.
 
please, PLEASE, for the love of god, figure out what you're doing.

You really shouldn't be playing around with this stuff if you can't even tell us what the concentration of your test is...you can wind up hurting yourself if you don't do a little more homework.
 
Bonkme2 said:
please, PLEASE, for the love of god, figure out what you're doing.

You really shouldn't be playing around with this stuff if you can't even tell us what the concentration of your test is...you can wind up hurting yourself if you don't do a little more homework.

BRO, chill !! I just wasn't sure if that is what they were asking me. I have that info right here in the hand. It's alright. But yes, I agree. I do need a little more education. Hence the reason I ask BEFORE I start. Which is what I am doing. I appreciate you looking out for me.
 
DrJMW said:
Maxpain--a Simple Example. Suppose You Send Me To The Store For A Carton Of Eggs. Well, Quess What? The Store Now Has Cartons Of Six Eggs, 12 Eggs And 18 Eggs? You Didn't Specify Which Number Of Eggs Per Carton You Wanted. You Must, So I Do Not Make An Error.

Cc Is A Volume. Mg Is A Mass (amount Of Stuff). Mg/cc Is A Strength Or Concentration. We Must Know The Strength (eggs Per Carton) To Know The Number Of Eggs In One Carton Total. Review This Example.

Doc, it's me the dumbass again. I was thinking that was what you needed. I just was not sure. I would rather ask than look anymore dumber than I already did. The MG is 250. What PCT do you recommend with this and creatine. THANK YOU !!!
 
DrJMW said:
See The Pct I Have Been Posting Ad Nauseum. Perhaps A Mod Can Make It A Sticky.



"ad nauseum"


1. Word that is arbitrarily used at the end of nearly every definition on UrbanDictionary.Com because of a general lack of vocabulary coupled with one's desire to look intelligent when one is actually dumber than rocks.

2. To do something over and over to the point of disgusting or nauseating yourself or others.

1. I caught a fish today, ad nauseum! LOL!

2. The radio plays the same OutKast song ad nauseum.


In other words you have posted the answer many times???? I would assume you are using definition two? Link me to your answer. I will ask a mod to sticky it.

Thanks!
 
Thanks for the kind words. I wish I had more info to convey. After posting for three years and seeing my clients' results and reporting as much as I can, perhaps it is time for me to sit back and read what other people have to say.

I have always followed the KISS rule (Keep It Simple, Stupid). Always use FDA-approved, pharm-grade meds. Keep stacks to two or three AAS; always use antiestrogens and antiprolactins where required; keep aas cycles around eight weeks long; do adequate recovery cycles; blood test baselines to better prepare for forthcoming cycles; blood test during cycles to make sure that the athlete isn't hurting himself (herself); blood test post-recovery to make sure that you are back to where you started (baseline or better). Proper diet, training, multivitamins, chelated multiminerals are all part of every cycle. This philosophy is simple, repeatable, understandable, easy to follow, and effective. One of the big problems I see is a lack of a coherent enhancement philosophy among BB'ers. Before anyone starts an enhancement program, the athlete should be able to write down, in a clear fashion, his philosophy, goals, procedures for attaining those goals, and the "tools" with which he will obtain those goals. I still see too many "I have the ingredients, make me a recipe" posts. This is backwards. The young kids as well as the vets need to constantly create and review their philosophies as well as their goals and procedures and their "tools." Leave the self-experimentation to the advanced vets and pros. These guys have already created and refined their philosophies and approaches over many years. Hopefully, by now, they know what they are doing. And if they don't, then they would ask and research.
 
DrJMW said:
Thanks for the kind words. I wish I had more info to convey. After posting for three years and seeing my clients' results and reporting as much as I can, perhaps it is time for me to sit back and read what other people have to say.

I have always followed the KISS rule (Keep It Simple, Stupid). Always use FDA-approved, pharm-grade meds. Keep stacks to two or three AAS; always use antiestrogens and antiprolactins where required; keep aas cycles around eight weeks long; do adequate recovery cycles; blood test baselines to better prepare for forthcoming cycles; blood test during cycles to make sure that the athlete isn't hurting himself (herself); blood test post-recovery to make sure that you are back to where you started (baseline or better). Proper diet, training, multivitamins, chelated multiminerals are all part of every cycle. This philosophy is simple, repeatable, understandable, easy to follow, and effective. One of the big problems I see is a lack of a coherent enhancement philosophy among BB'ers. Before anyone starts an enhancement program, the athlete should be able to write down, in a clear fashion, his philosophy, goals, procedures for attaining those goals, and the "tools" with which he will obtain those goals. I still see too many "I have the ingredients, make me a recipe" posts. This is backwards. The young kids as well as the vets need to constantly create and review their philosophies as well as their goals and procedures and their "tools." Leave the self-experimentation to the advanced vets and pros. These guys have already created and refined their philosophies and approaches over many years. Hopefully, by now, they know what they are doing. And if they don't, then they would ask and research.


How do you deal with those of us who are on HRT due to andropause? My levels naturally are 124 total and POINT 37 free. Although they've measured as high as 224 total and 13 total. :( I've never done AAS until I ended up on HRT. Oh, I'm 47 now, been on HRT for a year.
 
A number of my older clients with low to low-normal, baseline testosterones do one of the following:

1) They follow traditional HRT, which is low-dose AAS, either Gel or injectable or oral.
2) They do eight-week bulking cycles, using doses of 400-600mg total weekly AAS (appropriate ancillaries added) and then follow that with an eight-week maintenance cycle of about half the total (200-300mg). They go back and forth, and they even mix up the AAS they use.
3) They are always "on" 400 mg total AAS (assuming their bloods show that systems are healthy at this level. They mix up the AAS as well.

You should select the cycle that fits your philosophy and goals.
 
DrJMW said:
A number of my older clients with low to low-normal, baseline testosterones do one of the following:

1) They follow traditional HRT, which is low-dose AAS, either Gel or injectable or oral.
2) They do eight-week bulking cycles, using doses of 400-600mg total weekly AAS (appropriate ancillaries added) and then follow that with an eight-week maintenance cycle of about half the total (200-300mg). They go back and forth, and they even mix up the AAS they use.
3) They are always "on" 400 mg total AAS (assuming their bloods show that systems are healthy at this level. They mix up the AAS as well.

You should select the cycle that fits your philosophy and goals.
;) This sounds like what I've found out as well.

How do these folks utilize HCG etc during their maintenance cycle?
 
They use 500U of hcg, IM, Monday, Wed, Fri, for one to three weeks to restore some size. This is only done periodically as needed. There is no exact frequency, for everyone is different.
 
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