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PCT - anavar

Bazl

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just curious to know if any bros here have used anavar post cycle to help maintain gains post cycle.
any comments welcome.
 
10mg dbol in the AM has been proven for the past 2 years. Some tried using anavar at 20mg in the AM throughout pct but i haven't heard back from them. i would go with the 10mg dbol in the am bro..
 
holy ghost said:
what do yall mean in the AM

right when you wake up?

thanks in advance

yup. this way it mimic's and coincides with your normal endogenous test spike. It's like you're hiding it
 
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IMMEDIATELY when you wake up

or do you set your clock like an hour or two before then take it

i HAVe heard of this before please elaborate mav
 
It's not like there's any actual scientific studies on this, but the people who advocate it (and give it thumbs up) say just take it when you first wake up
 
the theory seems sound, and lots of people seem to use it successfully.

basically you greatly lower your cortisol, and you get a short half-life androgen spike coinciding with your bodys own test spike so it doesnt (suppossedly) mess with your hpta
 
yeah, i;m talking about basically maintaing as much gain as can be retained.
to my knowledge, the var is good for retaining strength and it wont shut u down like dbol will.
and as ur trying to come off, you would already b shut down from your cycle, yeah?
 
Bazl said:
yeah, i;m talking about basically maintaing as much gain as can be retained.
to my knowledge, the Anavar - oxandrolone - is good for retaining strength and it wont shut u down like Dianabol - methandrostenolone - will.
and as ur trying to come off, you would already b shut down from your cycle, yeah?

Notihng will shut you down in small enough doses, not even test or fina.
 
no fn way i was just thinking abou tthis thread and it popped up on top

Nate how much VAR would you suggest in this protocol

This turn around, im going to do the 10mg dbol thing as (prepct) then im going to run clen last 2 weeks of pct
 
I really don't know as far as the var is concerned. Basically, if you are making any gains then that is probably a bad sign - unless you switched to some completely new exercise and it's mostly neuromuscular.

I'd say start at 20mg ED, but I've never really used anavar for that purpose. I can say that 15mg of d-bol in the am wasn't enough to gain anything from post-cycle but I could ahve sworn I felt more intense pumps. Then at 10mg the pumps are gone and some strength went as well. Plus, maintaining just gets a lot trickier I find. I drop it under 10mg and it gets even trickier. I suspect I let go of any water retention very slowly which was why I didn't freak out so much or didn't notice as much.

I would be really surprised if a person couldn't get away with taking 5mg of d's in the am for like 10 years+ straight. I doubt an otherwise healthy liver would be too tremendously taxed - at least no more so than a lot of people are on mood medication they are getting prescribed.

If I do another cycle, I'm seriously thinking of just going in and doing it mega-science style and then writing it all up. Get constant bloodwork, be honest about what I'm doing, etc. It'd have to be anonymous I guess but that is the one thing that is REALLY holding people back from making some serious progress in this sport - dishonesty and a lot of people have no damn clue what is going on with their bodies. If we get a few of the right people to pay attention, take some notes, get the odd bloodwork done at strategic times, be HONEST about results, duration of use, dose, etc. and within ten years or whatever we'd all know exactly what we can and cannot get away with. Well, at least we'd be much better educated on the subject.

It sucks this stuff is illegal and held in such horrible regard since it truly is the norm in sports anyways and it would be nice to know how to do it safely.

Way to go, you got me ranting.
 
Nathan said:
I really don't know as far as the Anavar - oxandrolone - is concerned. Basically, if you are making any gains then that is probably a bad sign - unless you switched to some completely new exercise and it's mostly neuromuscular.

I'd say start at 20mg ED, but I've never really used anavar for that purpose. I can say that 15mg of Dianabol - methandrostenolone - in the am wasn't enough to gain anything from post-cycle but I could ahve sworn I felt more intense pumps. Then at 10mg the pumps are gone and some strength went as well. Plus, maintaining just gets a lot trickier I find. I drop it under 10mg and it gets even trickier. I suspect I let go of any water retention very slowly which was why I didn't freak out so much or didn't notice as much.

I would be really surprised if a person couldn't get away with taking 5mg of d's in the am for like 10 years+ straight. I doubt an otherwise healthy liver would be too tremendously taxed - at least no more so than a lot of people are on mood medication they are getting prescribed.

If I do another cycle, I'm seriously thinking of just going in and doing it mega-science style and then writing it all up. Get constant bloodwork, be honest about what I'm doing, etc. It'd have to be anonymous I guess but that is the one thing that is REALLY holding people back from making some serious progress in this sport - dishonesty and a lot of people have no damn clue what is going on with their bodies. If we get a few of the right people to pay attention, take some notes, get the odd bloodwork done at strategic times, be HONEST about results, duration of use, dose, etc. and within ten years or whatever we'd all know exactly what we can and cannot get away with. Well, at least we'd be much better educated on the subject.

It sucks this stuff is illegal and held in such horrible regard since it truly is the norm in sports anyways and it would be nice to know how to do it safely.

Way to go, you got me ranting.


Nice post..
 
Nathan said:
I really don't know as far as the Anavar - oxandrolone - is concerned. Basically, if you are making any gains then that is probably a bad sign - unless you switched to some completely new exercise and it's mostly neuromuscular.

I'd say start at 20mg ED, but I've never really used anavar for that purpose. I can say that 15mg of Dianabol - methandrostenolone - in the am wasn't enough to gain anything from post-cycle but I could ahve sworn I felt more intense pumps. Then at 10mg the pumps are gone and some strength went as well. Plus, maintaining just gets a lot trickier I find. I drop it under 10mg and it gets even trickier. I suspect I let go of any water retention very slowly which was why I didn't freak out so much or didn't notice as much.

I would be really surprised if a person couldn't get away with taking 5mg of d's in the am for like 10 years+ straight. I doubt an otherwise healthy liver would be too tremendously taxed - at least no more so than a lot of people are on mood medication they are getting prescribed.

If I do another cycle, I'm seriously thinking of just going in and doing it mega-science style and then writing it all up. Get constant bloodwork, be honest about what I'm doing, etc. It'd have to be anonymous I guess but that is the one thing that is REALLY holding people back from making some serious progress in this sport - dishonesty and a lot of people have no damn clue what is going on with their bodies. If we get a few of the right people to pay attention, take some notes, get the odd bloodwork done at strategic times, be HONEST about results, duration of use, dose, etc. and within ten years or whatever we'd all know exactly what we can and cannot get away with. Well, at least we'd be much better educated on the subject.

It sucks this stuff is illegal and held in such horrible regard since it truly is the norm in sports anyways and it would be nice to know how to do it safely.

Way to go, you got me ranting.
I like what your saying .
Good post .
Brad.
 
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