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qwertyl

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I’m coming off 500/w Testo E for 12 weeks and 300mg/w Deca for nine weeks after starting the first four weeks with 30mg/d of Dbol. The first three weeks after Dbol I used Arimidex to reduce bloat. I still have it at hand but haven’t used it as I haven’t hade any side effects after that. After cutting it my sleep quality also improved but I’m not sure if there is any link there.
For PCT I have Clomoid, HCG, unleashed and post cycle (PC). For unleashed and PC will follow the instructions on the bottle starting in week 14. The plan for clomoid was 50mg/d for four weeks but 25mg/d seem to be the norm here so I’ll follow that.
I have one bottle of 5000 HCG for PCT. I know most here recommend using HCG while on cycle, but as it needs to be stored in the fridge that has not been possible as the wife would be pissed off. Correct me if I’m wrong but once mixed it should be used within seven days and stored cold which is why I have postponed it. As I can’t store it cold, do you guys have any suggestion to best handle this non-optimal situation?
 
I’m coming off 500/w Testo E for 12 weeks and 300mg/w Deca for nine weeks after starting the first four weeks with 30mg/d of Dbol. The first three weeks after Dbol I used Arimidex to reduce bloat. I still have it at hand but haven’t used it as I haven’t hade any side effects after that. After cutting it my sleep quality also improved but I’m not sure if there is any link there.
For PCT I have Clomoid, HCG, unleashed and post cycle (PC). For unleashed and PC will follow the instructions on the bottle starting in week 14. The plan for clomoid was 50mg/d for four weeks but 25mg/d seem to be the norm here so I’ll follow that.
I have one bottle of 5000 HCG for PCT. I know most here recommend using HCG while on cycle, but as it needs to be stored in the fridge that has not been possible as the wife would be pissed off. Correct me if I’m wrong but once mixed it should be used within seven days and stored cold which is why I have postponed it. As I can’t store it cold, do you guys have any suggestion to best handle this non-optimal situation?

For your PCT, consider running this:
Clomid 50/50/50/25 , Nolvadex 40/20/20/10, Aromasin 12.5 taper to 5 on week 3 and add natty [URL="http://bodybuilding.elitefitness.com/testosterone-gel"]test[/URL] boosters.
For your HCG, figure out how to store it cold if you can, if not do 5 shots instead of 10.
 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Do not run nolva with a 19-nor or you will get a pretty nice case of gyno and have an impossible recovery.

What you need to do is suck it up because here are your options.

Option A)
You tell your wife you have been doing steroids. You run HCG correctly going into your PCT and you have a better recovery.

Option B)
You do not tell your wife and you try to do 1 shot of hcg. This will lead to desensitization of the leydeg cells in your testicals and your recovery will suck or be worse anyways. You cant get your dick hard for months. Wife is pissed.

Either way it looks like your wife is going to be pissed off at you.

Some questions for you.

Did you run caber or prami during cycle?

If you didnt you need to start running those asap or you will have the worst recovery known to man. Deca is suppressive and Prolactin suppresses your HPTA even further. So if you go into PCT with high prolactin levels you are just asking for trouble.

Did you run the AI throughout the cycle?

If you didnt you need to start running an AI right now or you will go into PCT with high estrogen. Again this will inhibit recovery.

Now that I got those questions out the way I have a few more pertaining to your PCT.

Is there anyway you can store the HCG somewhere that has a fridge that your wife does not know about ? ( friends house, office space, etc )

IF there is this is your best bet. Start running 500 ius e3d to kick start your PCT.

Now you are also going to want to run this as your PCT

Clomid 25/25/25/25
Forma
DAA
PCT+UNleashed
HCGenerate
 
For your PCT, consider running this:
Clomid 50/50/50/25 , Nolvadex 40/20/20/10, Aromasin 12.5 taper to 5 on week 3 and add natty [URL="http://bodybuilding.elitefitness.com/testosterone-gel"]test[/URL] boosters.
For your HCG, figure out how to store it cold if you can, if not do 5 shots instead of 10.

This is f***ing stupid nolva is shit and clomid is to high

This should be pct

-Clomid 25/25/25/25
-Aromasin 12.5/12.5/12.5/ taper down each day the last week or forma stanzol
- HCG 500iu a week for last 3 weeks of cycle and first week of pct with 1000iu vitamin E a day while using it
-3g d-aspartic acid a day
-Unleashed post cycle combo
*optional torem 90/60/60/30

Many others will validate this with their own twist but the base is relatively similar
 
I ran arimidex in week 4-7, but can get back on that as I have it at hand. Aromasin would be the preferred choice but it’s not available here and neither were cabers. Even though I haven’t noticed any sides (ball size unchanged and libido is up) I guess getting back on AI is even more important.
Usually Arimidex is run at twice so how about if it restart it at 25mg/d. Should I do that all through PCT as I’m lagging behind, taper down at some point?
The point about a single shot of 5000iu HCG is fully understood but you agree that 5 shots of 1000iu won’t be a complete disaster? I see that the “old school” took shots up to 2000iu before knowing better. If five 1000iu could be an option I could borrow some space in a friends fridge.
 
Having been taking Caber or Prami?

Do not run an Ai in your PCT. That is what the forma is for.

If you have not been running Caber or Prami you need some asap and start running it all the way through your PCT or until you get bloods done and verify that your prolactin and progesterone levels are down.

Now as fas as HCG goes it is all about the Timing.

Now if you could do 10x 500 ius every 3 days this will be optimal. This allows your Testicles 4 weeks to start functioning again before PCT starts. If you only do 5x1000iu shots then it has to be spaced as far apart as possible.

Basically your options are to either A)

Run 10x500ius e3d up to prior to your PCT

B)
Run 1000 ius a week split 500 ius shots up to your PCT
 
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