Par Deus - Question on "One"

[Hoffmeister]

Was just wondering. I think PA had said that he had tried 1-AD as a topical, but found major skin irritations, if I remember right.

Do you have/expect any problems with "One" and irritations?

 

[pa1ad]

Was just wondering. I think PA had said that he had tried 1-AD as a topical, but found major skin irritations, if I remember right.

Do you have/expect any problems with "One" and irritations?

This is incorrect. The 1-Adiol topical was well tolerated by the couple of people that tried it, it just did not result in gains comparable to the oral version. I need to test the stuff on more people to get a consensus.

BTW, I find it almost impossible gettting people to test my products and give decent feedback. Everyone is so eager to try stuff and i give it to them and then either they do not take it at all, take it wrong, take it and I never hear back from them, or some other stupid fuck up.

People are so fucking flaky it makes me sick

 

[Hoffmeister]

Sorry, maybe I got confused with the questions regarding nasal (excuse me, "intra-oral").

I was going to try a round of 1-AD the first of the year, but now I'm hesitating, because of the products like Par Deus's "One". Don't think I'd go with MAG-10, just on principle.

If you're looking for old-fuck guinea pigs, give me a holler This'll be my first round with anything.

 

[Handsome Pete]

Excuse my ignorance, but what the hell is "one"?

By the way - I'd gladly volunteer to be a guinea pig, PA. I'm not a litigious person, so you could try pretty much anything on me.

 

[Par Deus]

Re: Re: Par Deus - Question on "One"

This is incorrect. The 1-Adiol topical was well tolerated by the couple of people that tried it, it just did not result in gains comparable to the oral version. I need to test the stuff on more people to get a consensus.

I know you previously stated that you expected a topical to be better. Do you think it was an enzyme issue?? Different dosing?? Or is the oral bioavailability just that good??

I assume you used ethyl alcohol + IPM??

BTW, I stated somewhere that you said a topical was better -- I think I was confused by you stating you thought it would be better and that the 1-testosterone spray you made WAS very, very good -- So, I apologize.

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[Par Deus]

I was going to try a round of 1-AD the first of the year, but now I'm hesitating, because of the products like Par Deus's "One". Don't think I'd go with MAG-10, just on principle.

Gotta love the anti-Biotest sentiment


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[Par Deus]

Excuse my ignorance, but what the hell is "one"?

It is a transdermal we (Avant Labs) are bringing out containing 17beta-hydroxy-5alpha-androst-1-en-3-one (aka 1-testosterone) -- it is the conversion product of 1-AD and the substance Mag-10 is an esterfied version of.

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[HarmsWayBC]

'One' sounds extremely interesting.......is it going to be as expensive as MAG-10?

What delivery method will 'One' use?

I have wanted to do a cycle of 1-AD, but it seems that a truly effective dose/cycle would be rather expensive....perhaps 4-A-Derm would be a better choice....at 60$/ cycle it's seems like a good deal.

 

[slowgain]

Sorry for the ignorance but is "one" simply 1-AD in topical form or is it 1-Testosterone in topical form.

 

[Par Deus]

Sorry for the ignorance but is "one" simply 1-AD in topical form or is it 1-Testosterone in topical form.

1-test and 4-AD in topical form.

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