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papervar question

sconoscuito

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wouldnt papervar be a little safer than regular pills since you can keep it in under your tongue to help the absorbption? since its not going through the liver?
 
sconoscuito said:
wouldnt papervar be a little safer than regular pills since you can keep it in under your tongue to help the absorbption? since its not going through the liver?

I believe that if it indeed is able to be absorbed sublingually then it means it that it will bypass the stomach but not the liver.

For var to become effective the liver must break it down and remove the 17-aa group.

I could be wrong but this is how I understand it.
 
is papevar as effective as pills???
 
wootoom said:
is papevar as effective as pills???

Some swear by it, that they are either overdosed, or underdosed or does not contain anavar at all...... I have not yet used them, however I think i'll stick with the real tabs. :)
 
I am on my first papervar only cycle, day 3 of 12 weeks total, 50mg ED for the first week then down to 40mg ED.

placebo effect running wild at the moment but I feel harder and this morning was shoulders and it was great.

I will keep you posted if you like, i am not running anthing else with it, eating super clean at maintainence calories with addition of trex, creatine, rALA and gPlenish.
 
ChefWide said:
I am on my first papervar only cycle, day 3 of 12 weeks total, 50mg ED for the first week then down to 40mg ED.

placebo effect running wild at the moment but I feel harder and this morning was shoulders and it was great.

I will keep you posted if you like, i am not running anthing else with it, eating super clean at maintainence calories with addition of trex, creatine, rALA and gPlenish.

are keeping a log of your gains in a thread?i am thinking of doing this exact cycle so i am innterested in what your results will be:D
 
i just started my second cycle after recieving my order this week. i finished up the first one in early december. this stuff works but don't expect miracles.

i wanted 10 lbs or so and put on 8 after a 5.5 week cycle so i was thrilled. at a lean 5.10 and 180 or so, i just COULDN'T get past this weight. the anavar did the trick. :) best of all no scary sides.
i lost about 3 lbs since my cycle ended.
 
It will remain a 17aa no matter if its sublingual, intramuscular injection or just pills. It will go through the liver anyway.
 
Liver gets it either way. Its just a matter of whether its a single or double pass.
 
papervar definitely works, although it real hard to say it's anavar. It's definitely NOT dbol or winny, my own experience can swear to that (dbol and I are old lovers, and I've done paperbol too. Likewise, winny makes my joints ache. So I am sure its not paperbol or paperwinny sold as papervar.) That being the case, what else could it be that work work oral. It's probably not anadrol either as that would be easy to tell . . . So I am 90% sure it's real. Plus I've seen scanned lab tests (but they could be faked) showing it to be real and slightly overdosed. So I say it's a good bet.
 
majutsu said:
papervar definitely works, although it real hard to say it's anavar. It's definitely NOT dbol or winny, my own experience can swear to that (dbol and I are old lovers, and I've done paperbol too. Likewise, winny makes my joints ache. So I am sure its not paperbol or paperwinny sold as papervar.) That being the case, what else could it be that work work oral. It's probably not anadrol either as that would be easy to tell . . . So I am 90% sure it's real. Plus I've seen scanned lab tests (but they could be faked) showing it to be real and slightly overdosed. So I say it's a good bet.

Where are all these allegations of fake PaperVar coming from? Who is your source (without saying to much?

I have used :kitty: RC and I have heard nothing but positive lab results about their products. Please, unless you know... don't make accusations.
 
Ohhhh jh1 you misunderstood! I'm talking about the great RC. Who is one of the greats! A champion! But periodically the question arises: is papervar really var. While "I trust the man like a brother" is good enough for me, I'm trying to take a different, more rational approach for the skeptics. I'm basically saying, even logically, without ad hominem arguments, papervar has a 90% + chance of being real. #1)It works #2) It's definitely not winny or dbol or anadrol . . . What else could it be that's cost effective to substitute? Therefore #3) it most likely is var!
 
I have used RC's products and will give my 200% approval! Now if we could only have the international mail system up to his standards, life would be much better. With the holidays and postal strikes I am still waiting a month for my grids. At this point its worse than a kid waiting for Christmas, at least you have a scheduled time for your goodies. I am glad that the girl who fills my PO box is very understanding with me. BTW she is hot as hell!
 
I am on day 5 of papervar. I feel it like the kiss on the end of a hot fist. No question about it.

Me-friggin-ow
 
I know for a fact, if it comes from the cat, it's tried, true and tested....His stuff is by far the best around, and his var is among the tops for var users....JMO


Ranger
 
Day 6. Did arms and shoulders in an extra long session this morning. Pumps? unreal. Weight is up accross the board. Outstanding, If the cat was a woman, I would lick her kitty. :kitty:
 
ChefWide said:
Day 6. Did arms and shoulders in an extra long session this morning. Pumps? unreal. Weight is up accross the board. Outstanding, If the cat was a woman, I would lick her kitty. :kitty:
:D
 
if gain much more weight, I will bruise the earth's crust.

My goals are to get MUCH stronger over the first six weeks of pVar, then comes some more radical fat loss plans over the second six weeks: mainly maintaining the lean mass gains and shed fat like blame for my kids learning new swearwords. ;)




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Oh as far as those pumps: The hottie that I let my eyes rove over now and again asked if I needed a spot on scullcrushers this morning. "Yes thanks." "My pleasure."

Ouch.

The elvish writing on my wedding band was firery red! Something must be going right!

LOL.
 
It's up. And as a matter of fact, the 'open for business' announcement many have been waiting for is now posted. They will be open by Jan 18 for orders at the very latest!

Meow
 
also he will no longer be shipping from certain locations so expect to pay more. i got an order in right before this AND his break.

this is my second cycle of PV. i am upping to 50mg this time around. i had to buy more . last time i used 40mg.
 
glennds said:

i wanted 10 lbs or so and put on 8 after a 5.5 week cycle so i was thrilled.

isnt that considered a shitty gain? im new but still dont dedicated ppl get that with nothing more than a proper diet, supps and creatine?
 
ColdCut said:


isnt that considered a shitty gain? im new but still dont dedicated ppl get that with nothing more than a proper diet, supps and creatine?

All depends on diet....if he put that on and managed to drop his BF or keep it the same, then it is a huge success. ALso he is more apt to hold those gains PC.
 
see my pic in member gallery under "ab pic" to see what i looked like before my cycle. i was very lean to begin with. not all of us want freaky gains. when you are lean 8 lbs of muscle is a significant gain in 5 weeks.
 
glennds said:
see my pic in member gallery under "ab pic" to see what i looked like before my cycle. i was very lean to begin with. not all of us want freaky gains. when you are lean 8 lbs of muscle is a significant gain in 5 weeks.

ya thats true hadnt thought about it like that...rock on!
 
Re: Re: papervar question

buckwheat1 said:


I believe that if it indeed is able to be absorbed sublingually then it means it that it will bypass the stomach but not the liver.

For var to become effective the liver must break it down and remove the 17-aa group.

I could be wrong but this is how I understand it.


It seems that I was wrong on both counts. If the var is absorbed sublingually then it will not go through a first pass metabolism in the liver. And this may lead to less stress on the liver.

Also, 17-aa group is not needed to be removed in order for the drug to become active. This is the case with esterfied drugs but not 17aa drugs.


The 17-aa also increases the half life of the drug.
 
ColdCut said:


isnt that considered a shitty gain? im new but still dont dedicated ppl get that with nothing more than a proper diet, supps and creatine?

HUH ? 8 lbs in 5.5 weeks is awesome gains. even if there was a little fat gain which there probably wasnt any since it's far were talking about. Var isnt known for gaining alot of weight
 
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