Oxycontin addiction....Oh No....PLEASE NO...

[GettingLean]

My husband, who is a member of this board as well, had recently gotten back surgery in February. He has since been in the hospital twice for complications. His Dr. has constantly prescribed him Oxycontins (10mg, 20mg) to treat his pain. This past weekend, he ran out of Oxys. He went thru HELL and it hurt me so deeply to see him in so much pain. He couldnt sleep, couldnt eat, was sweating uncontrollably and was in just plain AGONY He tried to kill the pain by drinking alcohol and that seemed to calm him somewhat, but not that much. On Monday, his Dr called and filled a prescription for THIRTY 40mg Oxycontins. I filled the prescription for him, and as soon as he took a pill, 5 minutes later he felt like new again. Its early Wednesday morning and he went to bed last night worrying about running out by the end of the week and facing obvious withdrawal. What can i do ??? I dont want to see him in pain like he was Sunday.....i'm so worried, i'm actually getting sick Can someone give me some advice as what to do?? Thank you....please help me!

GettingLean

 

[M.O.D]

i go in for back surgery on thursday,,i have a ruptured disc and it feels like someone has vice grips on my sciatic nerve...i was prescribed 40mg tabs of oxy , shit is so strong it feels like i'm on morphine.

i wish you all the best

 

[M.O.D]

and as for advise, thats a tough one....i would say the worst thing you could do is baby him ..you need to step in here before he truly gets addicted,

 

[Kool Keith]

SOunds like your husband already is addicted, you should let him run out of medication and then let him suffer for awhile and find something new to ease his pain...

 

[Kool Keith]

shit is so strong it feels like i'm on morphine.

It's pretty much the same thing, right...

 

[M.O.D]

It's pretty much the same thing, right...

if you chew them, it is suppose to be like heroin....its a 12 hr CR drug so chewing them gives you a heroin like rush....this is something i wouldnt do

 

[justwannagetsum]

get him some clonidine and immodium to use for withdrawal when the pain for surger subsides. He needs clonidine .3 mg 3 times a day to start and decrease over 7 days. Maybe the doc will call in some sublingual buprenex This is the best (besides methadone which you wont be able to get) for opiate withdrawal.......

 

[johnboy]

I hate to tell you this but....

oxy's are nothing more the clean pharmacutical heroin. So getting more is throwing fuel on the fire. My dr. had me on them as well, I asked to be taken off because I saw how addicitive they were on the news. All I can tell you is that 1. he must tough it out or 2. Get his ass to the methadone clinic.

 

[nikolai_bolkov]

Fucking doctors probably get kickbacks for the drugs they prescribe.

Is it really necessary to prescribe oxys for post-surgery, I mean isn't there anything else milder that can be used?

I thought oxys were for such uncontrollable pain (cancer etc) where the oxys speciality (no threshold in pain relief) comes to use.

It seems they give em out like candy.

 

[Themachine01]

GettingLean

I have had a lot of different experiences with Oxys. My mother 2 years ago had had surgery on her neck to repair a disc to which she was perscribed Oxys. First she was given 10s, then 20s, then 40s. She was taking the 40s about 2-3 times per day for a period of about 3 months.

I had taken them a few times before and knew the effects of them. I also had done a lot of research on them and I knew that I had to keep an eye on her. She was the same way as your husband, she would accidentally run out and go through withdrawal until she called in another perscription.

During this time I had dislocated my shoulder, while she was on the 40s, and to help the pain i decided to start taking the oxys she had, so I went on them for about 2 weeks straight. I realized that i was starting to like them too much and i took percs for a week and stopped all together.

I had a talk with my mother about the dangers of the oxys and went to the doctor with her to try and get her weened off. He put her back on 20s for about 2 weeks, then 10s again for another 2 weeks, and then on a pain killer called Hydrocodone which is still very strong but a step down. she stayed on them for about a month and now as of a month ago is on nothing but advil and experienced no withdrawal. She is a very tough woman and Im sure it was very hard for her dealing with the pain. I am very proud of her and how far she came because that drug is no joke.

She just started having a lot of pain again and went back on the hydrocodone for the pain, but at a very low dosage. Hope this helped GettingLean. Good luck and God Bless.

Machine

 

[drrman]

just don't let him start cooking and shooting them, thats when its bad. You can always sell them, they are worth .75 a mg!!

 

[Beezers]

Oxycontin- Legal(by RX)
Heroin- Illegal

Other than that there is basicaly no difference except one is a pill and the other a powder.

 

[Themachine01]

there IS a difference between the 2. Ive made myself very knowledgable about the drug. Oxycontin is an ingredient which is used in percosets and other painkillers, therefore your stating that there is heroin in percosets. If you are taking Oxys to get high, chewing them or shooting them, the high is very similar to that of heroin. I really dont think that after 3 months of heroin my mom wouldnt have been able to quick without rehab.

-ingredient wise the 2 are no the same.
-the high recieved from oxys and heroin are very similar.

 

[sjhaxp]

sounds as though she may need help in finding oxycotin. i'd be curious on any mail order sites

 

[Themachine01]

who are you saying needs help finding oxys?

 

[Grainger]

MY FRIEND DIED 2 DAYS AGO FROM THE SHIT!

My friend was given Oxycontins for some bad back pain that he was having. It wasn't long before he got hooked on the crap because they felt so good.

He realized that he had a real problem on his hands. He tried to get off the stuff a number of times but just used other drugs Valuim and Xanax etc. to try and ease the pain. Getting off that shit isn't about "toughing it out" The people on this board tha say shit like that have NO CLUE what they are talking about. Maybe some people can take it but EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT.

He went to a doctor and they put him on methadone. THE WITHDRAWLS ARE HORRIBLE!!! In any case he was clean for several months. 2 days ago his girlfriend found him dead in the bathtub. Still not sure what happend but he was only 32. I am sure that he OD'ed on some of the drugs he was perscribed.

This is very serious and I know that you want to help your husband but he needs to get to a hospital where people know how to help him. My friend tried to treat himself and it didn't work. This is nothing to take lightly. We are all still in such shock. He never did any drugs before this and he was big into bodybuilding. That shit got the best of him.

PLEASE, get help. It really is THAT bad. I am not trying to freak you out...I just want you to get some outside help for this. I am sure that you can get through it...you just need to be willing to do whatever it takes.

My thoughts and prayers are with you on this one........Sorry for the negative email but this post really hit home for me.

-G

 

[Grainger]

SOunds like your husband already is addicted, you should let him run out of medication and then let him suffer for awhile and find something new to ease his pain...

Your a fucking jackass! Let him suffer?!?!!? Keep your worthless comments to yourself. She is talking about her husband and a member of the board. People make mistakes but it doesn't mean that they should always suffer in order to "learn" from the mistake. How would you like to see someone that you love suffer? My friend suffered....right up to the point when he took his life and made all the people around him that thought "he gets what he deserves for taking that shit", think that it was partially their fault for not doing more for him.

Not so "Kool Keith." Better choose the words in your posts a little better than that!

 

[HugeWannabe]

Dateline had a special a while ago about how addictive oxycontin is. My advice is get him off asap. There is almost an epidemic over this stuff in the US. It is extremely addictive. Dont sell it either like someone else just suggested, would you really want to put someone else through the pain you are feeling? Good luck and keep us posted!

 

[HugeWannabe]

Also when going to the doc, I have noticed in Canada, the docs will prescribe very easily without informing you about what you really need to know. I was on prozac, then paxil. Although paxil has a lot more sides that affect me the doc never said anything, or about having to ween off or sexual sides or anything. They are more likely to blindly prescribe than to assess and prescribe. Luckily enough I knew the prozac wasn't working and I have researched paxil before I went in and knew what I was getting into. But if someone is prescribed Oxy's after surgery and doesn't know what they are getting into they dont even know to ask for something else! THey are completely in the hands of the doctors! Its really sad when you read things like this.

 

[buffarat]

Sounds like you need to hide the shit and tie him up for about three weeks. Let his system get used to not having it.

 

[GettingLean]

Thank you all so much for your responses. I'm still confused as to what to do We have found that a sublingual drug called "Buprenex" would help the withdrawals. The only problem is that there arent any outpatient buprenex programs where we live or even any inpatient buprenex programs. He doesnt want to go on methadone because thats even worse to get off of and i think will make matters worse in the long run. As far as someone commenting "tie him up", oh geez. He's over 300lbs!! He still has enough oxys for a couple more days and he IS trying to lessen the daily dosage (he's doing approx. 150mg/day) Once again, thank you all for your concern and i will post any and all progress.

 

[baryon]

Opiate Withdrawal

Your husband is addicted to oxycodone. The pain will come at some point. Assure him that there is a light at the end of the tunnel and tell him he needs to quit - unless he wants to be addicted for the rest of his life. Here are some suggestions on how to cope with the withdrawal (not written by me):



Narcotic withdrawal - a junkies guide for survival
You are waking from the warm fuzzy dream.. you're supply is depleted, your 'guy' is out of town, and it's a good 4 weeks before you can refill your script.. you're going to suffer from NARCOTIC WITHDRAWAL - So what can ya do about it?

Drag yourself to your local pharmacy with this for a shopping list -

1) Imodium AD - and get the SYRUP - you can also get the pills or gel-caps as they will come in handy later.. you can get the generic shit too, just make sure that the ONLY active drug is loperamide hcl .. get a big bottle, hell, get 3 or 4 .. and no, it doesn't have a "pleasant cherry taste" .. this brings us to the next item -

2) Fruit juice - carbonated beverages won't do ya a lot of good... I have done this many times, and I find some apple juice to be the drink of choice ..

3) Aleve (or generic - you want naproxen sodium) .. this will help with the muscle aches and pains ..

4) Sominex (or generic - you want diphenhydramine).. this is an OTC sleep aide that *WILL* knock you out! Now if you have benzos or some other type of tranqualizer, thats better as they have other properties that we desire - but still, pick some of this up because without it you will just toss and turn all night...

5) Soup - whatever you like, it taste the same comming up ..

Some people recomend DXM, but I don't think it does much good when one is going through withdrawal - it *CAN* help reduce ones tollerence to opiates/opioids - pick up a bottle, remember, you want DXM ONLY .. you can try this, but I found it never really did anything but make my feel 'trippy' in higher doses (NOT pleasureable when you're kicking) ..

Ok, first off, there is no magic cure for withdrawal that DOESN'T involve some type of narcotic - thats what withdrawal is - the condition resulting from the absence of opiate/opioids in your system... in other words, don't think you can go on a 3 month heroin binge and walk away like nothing happened - BUT - I have been through this many, many, many times before - and I can help you reduce the pain and suffering to *ALMOST* nothing ..

Now, how bad will it be? Well, that depends on a few things:

*) HOW MUCH were you taking? Someone who mainlines a gram of heroin every 16 hours is going to have it a LOT worse then someone who pops a few Lortab every day..

*) HOW OFTEN were you taking the drugs? Again, if you made opiated bliss a full-time job, then you're going to have it a little harder then the occasional pill poper..

*) WHAT were you taking? If you liked to take codeine every day, you will probably suffer a little less then someone whos drug of choice was black tar..

I will assume that our subject falls in the moderate to heavy use catagory - could be considered an 'addict', or 'independent self-medicator'..

Withdrawal can set in within hours, depending on the frequency of your opiate/opioid intake - an IV heroin user who would fix every 4 hours is going to feel the kick comming a lot sooner then someone who eats Vicodin after work each night ..

I wont get into the psychological aspects of narcotic withdrawal, as thats a book in itself...

IMODIUM AD - OTC METHADONE!

I can't say enough about Loperamide - this shit is truely amazing.. it is really like OTC methadone .. so I think I will say a little about it;

Back in the day, Jansen (pharmaceuticals) was trying to tweak out the fentanyl molecule - loperamide and fentanyl have a lot in common in terms of their structure.. anyway, they came up with loperamide in hopes it would be some incredible opioid - sadly it wasn't... so it was placed in federall schedule V - then, for some unknown reason, it was knocked out of C-V and made an OTC drug - you know it as Imodium AD .. there were some studies done on morphine dependent monkeys, and loperamide halted the withdrawal with as much success as methadone - so hey, don't write it off as a "junkie trick"...

How to use it? Well, ideally you want to take it prior to the onset of physical withdrawal - hence the reason for the liquid - it is rapidly absorbed into yer system .. for a dose I recomend about 4mg-6mg - yes, more then recomended by the FDA .. this can almost totally halt with physical aspects of withdrawal - it does little for the mental cravings though .. you can 'maintain' yourself with the pills/gel's but the syrup is FAR better - still, I find it's easier to pop a few pills at work then to bust out with the economy size bottle of an anti-diarrhea medicine..

For a moderate user, loperamide will just about kill *all* the physical symptoms - but for the heavy user, or for a good portion of the moderate users, there is that one physical effect that persists - muscle aches .. enters the Aleve (naproxen) .. take 500mg every few hours ..

Ok, so you are now narcotic free, and maintained fairly well with the Imodium and Aleve - is it that easy? No, not really.. while the above can help, you will still suffer from SOME physicl effects - I will list them.. some, all, or none may apply to you:

1) Cold sweats
2) Nausea
3) Diarrhea
4) Vomiting
5) Muscle pain
6) Insomnia
7) Depression (I wont get into it)

The severity of the effects depends on how much of what you take and how often you did so..

How long does it last? Overall, the worst is over after about 3-5 days, and from there it's just a matter of dealing with some minor annoyances .. the first few days are the worst, and I don't advise doing any more then you have to - lay in bed, keep a trash can nearby, and have a good stock of toliet paper .. food is a good thing, but you might not be able to keep it down - but THIS IS IMPORTANT - diarrhea and vomitting cause you to lose a LOT of water, so you WILL dehydrate - hence, you MUST maintain a good intake of fluids... thirsty or not, drink a cup of something every hour or so ..

Sominex will help you sleep, and benzos are wonderfull!

Everything else is a matter of personal opinion - do what feels good.. some people find sex is a good way to make a bad situation good, I personally don't want to do anything sexual when I am going through withdrawal.. I like to be as clean as possible - it really makes me feel good to take a few hot showers a day, but others can't take the water - YMMV, find out what works and go with it!

Thats most of the general advice I have...

Prevention is really the best way to go - TAPER YOUR DOSE when you're running low (yeah right) .. a nice alternative is to keep some narcotics on hand that wont really fuck you up, but will keep the withdrawal under control - ie codeine - it wont make you warm and fuzzy, but it may enable you to avoid missing a few days of work/school ..


--baryon

 

[HugeWannabe]

Re: Opiate Withdrawal

Your husband is addicted to oxycodone. The pain will come at some point. Assure him that there is a light at the end of the tunnel and tell him he needs to quit - unless he wants to be addicted for the rest of his life. Here are some suggestions on how to cope with the withdrawal (not written by me):



Narcotic withdrawal - a junkies guide for survival
You are waking from the warm fuzzy dream.. you're supply is depleted, your 'guy' is out of town, and it's a good 4 weeks before you can refill your script.. you're going to suffer from NARCOTIC WITHDRAWAL - So what can ya do about it?

Drag yourself to your local pharmacy with this for a shopping list -

1) Imodium AD - and get the SYRUP - you can also get the pills or gel-caps as they will come in handy later.. you can get the generic shit too, just make sure that the ONLY active drug is loperamide hcl .. get a big bottle, hell, get 3 or 4 .. and no, it doesn't have a "pleasant cherry taste" .. this brings us to the next item -

2) Fruit juice - carbonated beverages won't do ya a lot of good... I have done this many times, and I find some apple juice to be the drink of choice ..

3) Aleve (or generic - you want naproxen sodium) .. this will help with the muscle aches and pains ..

4) Sominex (or generic - you want diphenhydramine).. this is an OTC sleep aide that *WILL* knock you out! Now if you have benzos or some other type of tranqualizer, thats better as they have other properties that we desire - but still, pick some of this up because without it you will just toss and turn all night...

5) Soup - whatever you like, it taste the same comming up ..

Some people recomend DXM, but I don't think it does much good when one is going through withdrawal - it *CAN* help reduce ones tollerence to opiates/opioids - pick up a bottle, remember, you want DXM ONLY .. you can try this, but I found it never really did anything but make my feel 'trippy' in higher doses (NOT pleasureable when you're kicking) ..

Ok, first off, there is no magic cure for withdrawal that DOESN'T involve some type of narcotic - thats what withdrawal is - the condition resulting from the absence of opiate/opioids in your system... in other words, don't think you can go on a 3 month heroin binge and walk away like nothing happened - BUT - I have been through this many, many, many times before - and I can help you reduce the pain and suffering to *ALMOST* nothing ..

Now, how bad will it be? Well, that depends on a few things:

*) HOW MUCH were you taking? Someone who mainlines a gram of heroin every 16 hours is going to have it a LOT worse then someone who pops a few Lortab every day..

*) HOW OFTEN were you taking the drugs? Again, if you made opiated bliss a full-time job, then you're going to have it a little harder then the occasional pill poper..

*) WHAT were you taking? If you liked to take codeine every day, you will probably suffer a little less then someone whos drug of choice was black tar..

I will assume that our subject falls in the moderate to heavy use catagory - could be considered an 'addict', or 'independent self-medicator'..

Withdrawal can set in within hours, depending on the frequency of your opiate/opioid intake - an IV heroin user who would fix every 4 hours is going to feel the kick comming a lot sooner then someone who eats Vicodin after work each night ..

I wont get into the psychological aspects of narcotic withdrawal, as thats a book in itself...

IMODIUM AD - OTC METHADONE!

I can't say enough about Loperamide - this shit is truely amazing.. it is really like OTC methadone .. so I think I will say a little about it;

Back in the day, Jansen (pharmaceuticals) was trying to tweak out the fentanyl molecule - loperamide and fentanyl have a lot in common in terms of their structure.. anyway, they came up with loperamide in hopes it would be some incredible opioid - sadly it wasn't... so it was placed in federall schedule V - then, for some unknown reason, it was knocked out of C-V and made an OTC drug - you know it as Imodium AD .. there were some studies done on morphine dependent monkeys, and loperamide halted the withdrawal with as much success as methadone - so hey, don't write it off as a "junkie trick"...

How to use it? Well, ideally you want to take it prior to the onset of physical withdrawal - hence the reason for the liquid - it is rapidly absorbed into yer system .. for a dose I recomend about 4mg-6mg - yes, more then recomended by the FDA .. this can almost totally halt with physical aspects of withdrawal - it does little for the mental cravings though .. you can 'maintain' yourself with the pills/gel's but the syrup is FAR better - still, I find it's easier to pop a few pills at work then to bust out with the economy size bottle of an anti-diarrhea medicine..

For a moderate user, loperamide will just about kill *all* the physical symptoms - but for the heavy user, or for a good portion of the moderate users, there is that one physical effect that persists - muscle aches .. enters the Aleve (naproxen) .. take 500mg every few hours ..

Ok, so you are now narcotic free, and maintained fairly well with the Imodium and Aleve - is it that easy? No, not really.. while the above can help, you will still suffer from SOME physicl effects - I will list them.. some, all, or none may apply to you:

1) Cold sweats
2) Nausea
3) Diarrhea
4) Vomiting
5) Muscle pain
6) Insomnia
7) Depression (I wont get into it)

The severity of the effects depends on how much of what you take and how often you did so..

How long does it last? Overall, the worst is over after about 3-5 days, and from there it's just a matter of dealing with some minor annoyances .. the first few days are the worst, and I don't advise doing any more then you have to - lay in bed, keep a trash can nearby, and have a good stock of toliet paper .. food is a good thing, but you might not be able to keep it down - but THIS IS IMPORTANT - diarrhea and vomitting cause you to lose a LOT of water, so you WILL dehydrate - hence, you MUST maintain a good intake of fluids... thirsty or not, drink a cup of something every hour or so ..

Sominex will help you sleep, and benzos are wonderfull!

Everything else is a matter of personal opinion - do what feels good.. some people find sex is a good way to make a bad situation good, I personally don't want to do anything sexual when I am going through withdrawal.. I like to be as clean as possible - it really makes me feel good to take a few hot showers a day, but others can't take the water - YMMV, find out what works and go with it!

Thats most of the general advice I have...

Prevention is really the best way to go - TAPER YOUR DOSE when you're running low (yeah right) .. a nice alternative is to keep some narcotics on hand that wont really fuck you up, but will keep the withdrawal under control - ie codeine - it wont make you warm and fuzzy, but it may enable you to avoid missing a few days of work/school ..


--baryon

Great post where it was needed bro, karma coming from me to you!

 

[johnboy]

FUCK YOU !!!

oxy's are nothing more the clean pharmacutical heroin. So getting more is throwing fuel on the fire. My dr. had me on them as well, I asked to be taken off because I saw how addicitive they were on the news. All I can tell you is that 1. he must tough it out or 2. Get his ass to the methadone clinic.

whoever the pussy is that gave me negative karma because of this post can step the fuck up and let me know who you are. Do some fucking research you fucking heoin junkie. Its the same fucking thing, ask a dr.

 

[MadCow1]

BARYON - that was a solid post. Thanks for contributing that. I'd give Karma (which I rarely do) but I keep getting Javascript errors.

 

[GettingLean]

Baryon............

I cant thank you enough for you advice and input regarding this matter!! It shows how much care you have in your heart to help someone out in their time of need by taking the time and posting all that valuable (if not life-saving) information. Well......as of now, 3:00 A.M. Sunday morning, my husband has swallowed the last of his oxycontins. It was a total of 60mg (1 1/2 40 mg tablets) and he doesnt even have a "buzz". He'll be feeling like SHIT by this afternoon. I'll run to the store and get the items that Baryon had mentioned and we'll just have to wait and see. My husband had spoken w/ the nurse (who takes the phone calls) on Friday to tell her that he was going to run out of oxy's during the weekend and she told him that they would be in the office on Monday to refill another prescription. The problem is, they cant just simply "call" in the script. You have to actually go to the Dr's office and pick up the prescription yourself. My husband and i have talked about this and he has said that he thinks he wants to just "kick the habit" altogether. Wish us luck, and please pray for us.....i think we're gonna need it. Again, thank you all for your support and we'll keep you posted!!...BTW,....Karma to you Baryon!!! ----

GettingLean

 

[GettingLean]

Please keep this bumped guys......we need all the help we can get

 

[baryon]

benzos

try and get a script for benzos from the doc. if he's dishing out oxy's then he should have few qualms about handing out some xanax. it'll help with anxiety and sleeplessness. don't let him eat too many though - they're addictive too

--baryon

 

[BigRed54]

I use to take Oxy's sometimes on the weekends. And 1 time i took 3 Oxy's in 1 night but they were 80mg! My friends had to drag me out of the club i thought i was going to die... That shits pretty bad. No need for flames i learned my lesson.

 

[rstitan53]

i am in college and have a few friends that are goin throught the whole thing, the worst part for them is that they dont have a scrpit. so they spend 20 or 30$ per pill. what they did to stop was started buying percocets and vicodin(sp) and took those for a week or so.. they are not nearly as strong as oxy's but still give u some relief.. then aften that it was jsut will power to stop takin pills all together.. DONT baby him... if he really gets addicted he will be ins ome shit

 

[jsn]

karma for you baryon
hey gettinlean how is he doin ? ive been there myself , i know EXACTLY what hes going through i will say a prayer for you both
hope all is well keep us posted
by the way he will be fine it may not seem that way right now but i kicked a hard addiction almost 3 yrs ago and have been good ever since

 

[monkeyballs]

This is really just a glorified bump...

I saw the same Dateline that Hugewannabe mentioned, and the case studies that they presented were addicts who went through withdrawl symptoms that were so severe that they almost died. That same dateline showed One 17 year old kid with really rich parents who underwent this radical form of detox that literally purges all the opiates from your system at once. The witdrawl is done in one burst rather than spread out over a long period of time. During the treatment, the patient is heavilly sedated, given the detox drugs, and allowed to convulse and rythe while the opiates are purged. It worked for the kid, and apparently it's worked for everyone who has tried it, but it cost something like 30 grand and isn't covered by insurance. Checkout the Dateline archives on the internet, and I'm sure you can get still a copy of the program...hope this helps.

 

[Your_Moms_Kneepads]

My husband, who is a member of this board as well, had recently gotten back surgery in February. He has since been in the hospital twice for complications. His Dr. has constantly prescribed him Oxycontins (10mg, 20mg) to treat his pain. This past weekend, he ran out of Oxys. He went thru HELL and it hurt me so deeply to see him in so much pain. He couldnt sleep, couldnt eat, was sweating uncontrollably and was in just plain AGONY He tried to kill the pain by drinking alcohol and that seemed to calm him somewhat, but not that much. On Monday, his Dr called and filled a prescription for THIRTY 40mg Oxycontins. I filled the prescription for him, and as soon as he took a pill, 5 minutes later he felt like new again. Its early Wednesday morning and he went to bed last night worrying about running out by the end of the week and facing obvious withdrawal. What can i do ??? I dont want to see him in pain like he was Sunday.....i'm so worried, i'm actually getting sick Can someone give me some advice as what to do?? Thank you....please help me!

GettingLean

For now you have to control the pain and opiates look like the only thing that are going to control it for now. When the pain lessens he needs to be weaned off or if he is truly "addicted" rapid detox (while you are unconscious they give a medication (Narcan) that will basically reverse all of the opiates in a persons system). The person basically goes thru withdrawal while they are intubated and on a cardiac monitor. They dont go thru the pain of withdrawals while they are awake.
Look into it.

 

[monkeyballs]

Re: Re: Oxycontin addiction....Oh No....PLEASE NO...

For now you have to control the pain and opiates look like the only thing that are going to control it for now. When the pain lessens he needs to be weaned off or if he is truly "addicted" rapid detox (while you are unconscious they give a medication (Narcan) that will basically reverse all of the opiates in a persons system). The person basically goes thru withdrawal while they are intubated and on a cardiac monitor. They dont go thru the pain of withdrawals while they are awake.
Look into it.

This is the procedure that they documented on Dateline. According to the show it is expensive, and most insurance companies don't pay for it, but it worked like a charm for a kid who was stealing TV's to pay for his addiction.

 

[GettingLean]

Hi everyone, just a little update.........

My husband is in the weening process. He's down to 100mgs/day of oxycontin. He spoke to his doctor's nurse today (tuesday) and she said in order for my husband to recieve any more scripts for oxys, he has to sign a "waiver" at the doctors office. Do you think they are scared because we may have a potential lawsuit? Hmmmmm... But anyway, they are supposedly going to give him enough to ween him down to a very low daily dose and then take Valium to help with the withdrawal. I was going to bring with us to the doctor's office some information i got on a medication called "buprenex". This is being used in some detox centers around the country to get people off opiates. I was thinking of bringing this info and possibly getting a script for that as well. So, what do you all gather as to what this "waiver" is?? Should my husband sign it, or do we have a lawsuit? Thanks for any more advice!!

GettingLean

 

[M.O.D]

gl,

good luck and hang in there, he is a lucky guy to have someone concerned for him....

 

[Frackal]

The doctors prescribing this shit are probably the same ones who would berate you about AAS usage!! Fucking people!!!

 

[GettingLean]

gl,

good luck and hang in there, he is a lucky guy to have someone concerned for him....

AWWWWWWW!!! Thanks M.O.D.! He is my SOULMATE.....no question about it. He has helped me thru many things since we met and he is the BEST thing that ever happened to me You see, thats what marriage is all about: Being there when the chips are down, thru thick and thin and being there to help each other and stand behind one another 1000%. Its give and take. I know we were meant for each other, and we've been married going on TWO YEARS, been together almost 3 years and its been the BEST 3 years of my life. I love him with ALL my heart, because he IS my heart. It just pains me to see him suffer like this.We'll get thru it.....we've been thru SO much together, and this hard time only makes our love for each other stronger. Again, thank you all for showing your concern for the both of us, as it has really warmed our hearts to see that people really DO CARE!!
I will continue to post his progress during this truly trying time in our life.......

GettingLean

 

[GettingLean]

The doctors prescribing this shit are probably the same ones who would berate you about AAS usage!! Fucking people!!!

I agree with you 100% Frackal!!! Its B.S. how they are appalled by hearing that you are on gear, but prescribe a highly addictive medication like oxycontin at the drop of a hat!!! The medical community truly is a bunch of beurocratic hypocrits!!

GettingLean

 

[MR. BMJ]

I'm not trying to incinuate anything about your husband or even knock down this drug, but it draws kind of personal with me. In the last 5 months, I have had 2 friends die from snorting this shit.

Fucking Dead! Ages 26 and 28. This shit is really addicting. I'd probably advise another pain medication if possible. BUT, i'm a little prejudice at this time.

BMJ

 

[GettingLean]

I'm not trying to incinuate anything about your husband or even knock down this drug, but it draws kind of personal with me. In the last 5 months, I have had 2 friends die from snorting this shit.

Fucking Dead! Ages 26 and 28. This shit is really addicting. I'd probably advise another pain medication if possible. BUT, i'm a little prejudice at this time.

BMJ

BMJ.......

I'm sorry to hear about your friends, thats truly a horrible tragedy We dont want to be given another pain med to substitute, we just want him off ALL medication A.S.A.P. Percoset is just another form of oxy, just weaker, so it means you just have to take more pills to get the same effect. We both just want him off altogether. Again, i'm sorry about your loss my friend and i can definately understand your feelings in this matter.

 

[jecterF10]

Oxycontin is an ingredient which is used in percosets and other painkillers

OxyContin is the name of the drug, not the ingredient. Oxycodone is what oxycontins, endocets, percocets, roxicet are all made of...

BAD SHIT!! (i dont mean that in a good way)

 

[M.O.D]

http://www.drugs.indiana.edu/druginfo/narcotics.html

 

[Kool Keith]

Your a fucking jackass! Let him suffer?!?!!? Keep your worthless comments to yourself. She is talking about her husband and a member of the board. People make mistakes but it doesn't mean that they should always suffer in order to "learn" from the mistake. How would you like to see someone that you love suffer? My friend suffered....right up to the point when he took his life and made all the people around him that thought "he gets what he deserves for taking that shit", think that it was partially their fault for not doing more for him.

Not so "Kool Keith." Better choose the words in your posts a little better than that!

Fuck you then....now what?

 

[Steelplate]

Hi everyone, just a little update.........

My husband is in the weening process. He's down to 100mgs/day of oxycontin. He spoke to his doctor's nurse today (tuesday) and she said in order for my husband to recieve any more scripts for oxys, he has to sign a "waiver" at the doctors office. Do you think they are scared because we may have a potential lawsuit? Hmmmmm... But anyway, they are supposedly going to give him enough to ween him down to a very low daily dose and then take Valium to help with the withdrawal. I was going to bring with us to the doctor's office some information i got on a medication called "buprenex". This is being used in some detox centers around the country to get people off opiates. I was thinking of bringing this info and possibly getting a script for that as well. So, what do you all gather as to what this "waiver" is?? Should my husband sign it, or do we have a lawsuit? Thanks for any more advice!!

GettingLean

No.. You defenitely dont have a lawsuit.. They want you to sign the waiver because your husband is an addict, and they have to cover themselves in case he is selling them, or if he is attempting to obtain them from several MD's at the same time.. The doctors are not liable for treating the pain your husband claimed.. You said he was given #30 40mg tablets, and was worried about running out in a week.. That amount is at least enough for half a month.. Consider your husband a very lucky man for realizing this was getting outta control early and owning up to it.. To many get caught up in a horrible situation that can last for years.. Good luck..

 

[GettingLean]

BUMP.....any more advice??

 

[Maxx Out]

AWWWWWWW!!! Thanks M.O.D.! He is my SOULMATE.....no question about it. He has helped me thru many things since we met and he is the BEST thing that ever happened to me You see, thats what marriage is all about: Being there when the chips are down, thru thick and thin and being there to help each other and stand behind one another 1000%. Its give and take. I know we were meant for each other, and we've been married going on TWO YEARS, been together almost 3 years and its been the BEST 3 years of my life. I love him with ALL my heart, because he IS my heart. It just pains me to see him suffer like this.We'll get thru it.....we've been thru SO much together, and this hard time only makes our love for each other stronger. Again, thank you all for showing your concern for the both of us, as it has really warmed our hearts to see that people really DO CARE!!
I will continue to post his progress during this truly trying time in our life.......

GettingLean

God bless you! And the very best only! Your his angel keep him protected and you can do it together!

 

[Fukkenshredded]

Gettinglean--

Listen to me here. I am very familiar with addiction (I was a crack addict, among other things, and I have done heroin as well...recovered fully now), and addiction is very tricky. There is no blanket answer. However, there are a few things that need to be understood in order to reverse this process.

1. It is not a mental problem. The assumption that an addiciton can be 'toughed out' is made from ignorance. Physical addiction, especially one like this, is a beast with teeth. It is not easy, so you are gonna have to be patient with him.

2. It can be reversed. The idea that addictions are permanent is also myth. Once his body is cleaned and detoxed, he will not crave the drug.

Now, here's what I would do. Number one, you will have to keep giving him pills for now, but see if you can obtain a weker dose pill form the doctor. You work your way dow from the fortioes, to the thirties, and so on. Explain to your husband that this is a difficult process, and that the pills will not be as effective for him, but that you are weaning him from this medication. Make him aware that he has this problem, and do it in a way that does not place blame on him. Do not show him panic or anger. Simply make him understand that this turns around, right now, and we walk out of it, together, little by little.

Once you have him back to the tens, start spacing the dosages out. This is where he is gonna try and fool you into giving other drugs. Do not do it. Once he is on the tens, the physicality of the addiction will be severely shrunk, but the psychological aspect will be as big as ever.

Cut the dosing frequencies into fourths, not in halves. Walk him out of the tens over a period of two weeks.

For the first few weeks following cessation, he will try everything to get to the drug again. Monitor him. Walk with him. Make life with you preferable to life on the pills. It takes patience. Show it. Tell him you want him back, and reassure him that he is almost there. Make him know you are there for him.

The day will come when the craving vanishes. I gurantee it. Hope this helps.