they are great products to run on test and dbol as long as you still run the big boy pct items like HCG, Nolva, Clomid etc. The way they work best is to make the transition into the actual pct very smooth, lessen supression, and the full mast side effect is nice for the ladies. Plan your prohormone or anabolic inj cycle around the big stuff with the generate and unleashed, etc, and you will find that gains stay, balls work correctly, and just a overall more worry free cycle that you get the full use out of it and where you then do not have to post a new thread like (I DONT HAVE HIGH LIBIDO ANYMORE), or (Am I getting GYNO?)