i ran it 8 weeks..first at 12.5 mg ...for 5 weeks then pumped the dose up to 25mg (no difference with the 12.5 dose)..good results..muscles fuller...people noticed the chance of my body..they said wow great schoulders, great body...i wonna be like you..and i'm almost 41...no sides..great stuff as you now that i can't use test, etc due to hairloss... sarmssearch dumb up