i tried SNS methyl drol(AKA superdrol) ..did not notice any anabolic effect whatsoever...it was supposed to be from the same batch as AX's superdrol and tested by AX...i made a phone call to someone at SNS and had a half hour chat(i had great results from previous products of theirs ,especially the 17 alpha methyl dht, the tone of my conversation was that of concern). I dont know what went wrong..i went up to 9 pills a day for a day just to make sure it was not underdosed,,no change,,went back down to 4,,nothing...I wish i had not bought 3 bottles first..i started the second bottle last week to see if it was just the first bottle that was bad....nothing to speak of as yet at 40mg a day