orals vs injectables

[lostintwilight7]

I'm new to the bodubuilding scene, and I'm going to begin my first cycle (as soon as I'm able to get the gear) so I just want to know which one do you think is better in this case prals or injectables.
I'm 19, I'm 5'10", I weight 160 lb and my bf is about %14
I used to liftweights in High school but I had an accident that messed up some discs in my spine(another reason I want to start), and my goal is just to get bac in the game, I don't want to get huge either.
I've done my homework and I know some of the advantages and disdvantages of each but I just want to get more feedback from people that know the subject.

 

[androlic]

I'm new to the bodubuilding scene, and I'm going to begin my first cycle (as soon as I'm able to get the gear) so I just want to know which one do you think is better in this case prals or injectables.
I'm 19, I'm 5'10", I weight 160 lb and my bf is about %14
I used to liftweights in High school but I had an accident that messed up some discs in my spine(another reason I want to start), and my goal is just to get bac in the game, I don't want to get huge either.
I've done my homework and I know some of the advantages and disdvantages of each but I just want to get more feedback from people that know the subject.

First of all, the people on this board is gonna tell you you are too young, better wait some years.
Second, seems to me you have _not_ done your homework. You need to do alot more research..
And the obvious one, injectables are always better than orals. But still, kind of a stupid question, but not flaming you for asking it...

 

[mhb3939]

WAY TO YOUNG BRO!!!! Seriously..... Training hard and diet is the key at your age.

I am by far an expert on AAS, but I do know that you are to young and run a risk of really messing your system up!!!!!

Hang out here for awhile, endless amout of knowledge......
Talk to some guys about a really good diet and training program and you'll go far ....
You came to the right place... Welcome!!!

 

[temetrepo]

Your are too young....

 

[Prizz]

Yeah, at your age your body is primed for growth, and your metabolism is rdy to burn fat easy.... You really don't need juice to make gains or lose fat... Get on a good diet, train hard, and you will grow like a weed....

rizz

 

[lostintwilight7]

I know that injectables are better than orals, but they also have disadvantages like the need of syringes and also you need to know how to inject yourself, plus there's a higher risk if you get fake gear.
I was going to start with some dbol 30mg/day for 5 weeks, then winstrol 50 mg/day for 4 weeks and nolvadex 10mg/day thru the whole cycle along vitmamin B6 200mg/day, milk thistle and a suplememnt for the ligaments.

 

[1UNDER]

Right now you are running all the test you need,,,,naturally.

 

[milo hobgoblin]

LOL.. "IF" you were going to do this in spite of all the GOOD ADVICE telling you that you are TO FUCKING YOUNG..

Then straight injected test enan or Cyp is all you need for your purposes.. why you want all that other stuff is beyond me.

And if your just afraid of needles.. just another reason you shouldnt be using.

Why dont it surprise me you have all that red karma.

 

[wayneboard1]

you are way to young man. You are asking for advice and you are getting some good stuff, please follow it and lift hard and wait on the gear.

 

[lostintwilight7]

the actual problem is that I have two herniated and partially displaced discs on my spine which give me a heel of pain everyday. Now I used to be on the soccer and fencing team in high school and I was going to take gear back then. But some months ago a friend of mine(younger than me) who has almost the same problem, not as severe, told me that the way he has been able to feel better and actually reduce the risk of worsening his condition (in case you dont know discs problems can only get worse not better) was using steroids, he strengten his back and abdominal muscles and now his spine is supporting him way better.

Anyway thanks for all you feedback bros, you really got me thinking about this

 

[mhb3939]

NO suplememnt for the ligaments is going to keep Winny from drying you out bro....

Listen to these guys..... Get a good diet and train hard bro.....
At your age you have all the Test you need as 1under stated...

 

[BigCracker]

You're too young. Try putting a couple yrs in the gym first and build a decent natural base through trial and error training and educating yourself on diet(which is probably 80% of BB success.) Train around your injury by not doing exercises that irritate it. Hopefully in time the surrounding areas will strengthen allowing you to do a wider variety of exercises without further injuring yourself. Once you have a good base after a couple yrs, then consider the dark path of juicing. Doing it now will be a waste of your natural testosterone. Since you still need to learn what type of training your body responds best to(high reps? low reps? isolation exercises? compound movements?), juicing will be a waste as well.

BTW-you sound retarded when you say I don't wanna get huge. 90% of the guys in the gym want to be huge and they can't figure out how to get that way-with or without roids. I have guys approach me and say "I don't want to be huge like you, I just want more size" My reply to these geniuses is that it's all the same shit. The only difference is a person's genetic potential and they're desire to do the necessary things to improve their physiques(proper training, diet, and a lifestyle that allows you to do these things consistently). It's not like you're gonna wake up one day and be too big to walk through the door sideways. Guys that say that they don't want to be huge are usually just saying that because they fear failure. That way when it doesn't happen, they can say that's never what they wanted anyway. Realistically, 99% of the guys on EF want size otherwise they'd be posting on Pencilneckgeeks.com. Don't mentally set yourself up for failure before you even start. At this point you're going to have to train/diet just as hard as anyone else to make the gains you desire whether it's just having T-shirt muscles or becoming Mr O. Build your own confidence by learning as much as you can about training and diet. Work on your self discipline to hit the gym regularly and eat right and build a good natural base. That way when you do AS, you'll maximize their effects and you won't look like the HIV posterchild after you come off them.

FYI-to answer your question-orals make 2 passes through the liver-once on the way in and once on the way out of the body. Injectables only make 1 pass through the liver-on the way out. That's why injectables are less toxic. I may have oversimplified this, but you get the idea.