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Oral Winny vs S-4 vs Epi Strong

Someone had recommended running katana with the epi, will i see good results of lean muscle/cutting with these two without the test? Seems like the forma was a waste of money if guys I here are saying it won't work for a post... Am i even going to notice a difference running the forma with the epi and katana or should i not even bother?

If you throw in a bottle of this with the stack, it will be a much more effective stack >>Ruthless Supplements RS Transaderm


It always wise to throw in a test base of some sort.
 
I appreciate the help guys, but really why does mr supps sell this as a pct if its not going to cut it as one? I have a buddy that has some extra clomid, will this be enough with the forma or do I really need to get something stronger? I definitely don't want to lose any gains I get from working out hard and the money spent on supps like I did last time. Nolva apparently doesn't work well...
 
I appreciate the help guys, but really why does mr supps sell this as a pct if its not going to cut it as one? I have a buddy that has some extra clomid, will this be enough with the forma or do I really need to get something stronger? I definitely don't want to lose any gains I get from working out hard and the money spent on supps like I did last time. Nolva apparently doesn't work well...

This is infuriating. What ever made you think that PCT is only going to consist of one compound? You lost your gains before bc you just ran nolva and probably never fully recovered your hpta. Do you even research? Forma is fine for pct, but you cant just rely on the forma and call it good. Go read up on what pct is all about and why it's so important to spend the extra money to do it right. Otherwise, you wasted money on a pointless cycle and didn't keep a bit of your gains, not to mention fucked up your hormones and once again didn't bring your natty levels back to par.
 
Well sorry to be soo infuriating to you! I did research before and have asked a lot of questions of people that have run numerous cycles. Depending on who you talk to you get very different answers so that's why I joined a forum to get more info and others advice.

When you read things like:
With FORMA-STANZOL, Forget Clomid and Nolvadex… This is the Ultimate PCT Compound – and More!

OR:

FORMA-STANZOL is a designer supplement that’s extremely effective at helping you keep hard-earned muscle gains and avoid disastrous side effects after a steroid cycle.

Even in your post branken, you said that forma is fine for pct, obviously its not if you need to add something else. In the ads that we all get from the forum and the sticky about the forma it sounds like it is all you need. That's why I was asking...

It tends to make you think that this will work by itself when it claims to be better than all the rest! That's why I was asking these questions... The epi doesn't seem to be bad compared to running tren/test, tho I could be wrong with that. Just curious what people think. If someone is going to get all irritated, then they can think elsewhere because I'm sure at one point they were in the same place I am now with trying to learn. We weren't born knowing what healthy foods to eat until we learned, let alone what illegal drugs to take until we learned. I did research but continue to get different answers. I appreciate the help people have given on here tho. I am going to try the forma with something else but i have a few weeks to figure it out.
 
Forma IS a great product, but you wanna make sure you're covered, that's all.

Unfortunately in the business of doing roids, even with PCT, it can get expensive. We are offering you the best advice we can, and most of these guys have kept their gains, so they're worth listening to, I promise.
 
I definitely appreciate any advice I get, especially from the moderators on here, just didn't want someone getting irritated at me for askin questions. I understand it can be irritating for people who have had this knowledge for years to have so many of the simple questions asked over and over tho. There are just so many different opinions out there with just as many product options so I guess it just gets confusing when you don't absolutely know for yourself...

I got the forma to run after the katana and epi. I was considering running the forma along with the orals but will probably try that rs transaderm instead. Would Clomid be good to run with the forma as a pct or what would you recommend if I need something along with the forma Psizzle? Otherwise I'll just make sure to cover up with the forma like you said.
If there is something better that I can take by itself, I will get that instead and just run the forma with the epi/katana. Thanks again for all the help! Much appreciated!
 
If you'd like, you can run forma during your cycle...but for PCT you can run it along with HCGenerate and the Unleashed/Post Cycle stack, that's a popular choice for PCT with the epi/katana stack
 
I think you're just a little confused bro, and think the term "PCT" means only one compound.

A good PCT consists of several different compounds that are used for different reasons, combining together to attack from all angles.
 
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