Oral Anabolics

[dogy]

Hey gang this is probably a dumb question but I am a newbie and I need to ask. There is no way I would be able to inject myself as me and needles unfortunatly don't get along. SO my question is then is there anything worthwhile available in oral form and if so what would be the optimum time of day to take them.
Looking to build mass at this point as my diet and protein intake doesn't seem to be cutting it. My BodyFat% hovers around the 10% range and it has proven extremely difficult for me to put on any size even with though I have hired a personal trainer who pratically kills me during my workouts.

Other then protein and creatine I have not taken any other supplements to this point and need something further.

dogy

 

[evander1972]

An oral only is a poor cycle Bro, You realy are just wasting your time without an injectable. I didnt like the idea of needles myself and got a friend to give me my first shots, I remember I was sweating and shaking. You get over it though and before long are shooting yourself and wondering what the big deal was. If I were to do an oral only cycle It would have to be Anavar at 40 mg or 50 mg per day for 8 weeks. You split the dose up in to smaller doses throughout the day. Your realy limited with orals because you have to think about your liver, You shouldnt stay on them for longer than 6 weeks. You could try winny but its hard on the liver and wont give you loads of mass, Alternatively you could do Dbol which will give you loads of strength but youll loose a lot of the gains when you come off. Thats just a couple for you and there are other orals. Pick up the pin and stick yourself and dont waste your time.

 

[dogy]

Appreciate the reply but I am curious why the injection is easier on the liver. I know it goes directly to the bloodstream but would that not eventually affect the liver in the same manner?

dogy

 

[needsize]

I have to disagree with evander there, an oral only cycle can yeild some decent gains, overall not as good as injectable as you cant stay on as long, but still decent. And losing most of you gains when you come off dbol is an old wives tale, dbol is one of the most anabolic steroids out there, and the more anabolic, the more growth. But you do gain a lot of water, which you lose when you come off, which some mistake as mass lost.
dbol at 30mg a day for 5-6 weeks, or anavar at 30-40mg a day for 6-8 weeks would be a fine cycle

 

[dogy]

Needsize thanks for the reply, good to get various opinions. Using the cycle you suggest would it matter what time of day they are consumed, beter absorption on empty or full stomach?

dogy

 

[dali]

curious to know amount of protein you're getting daily? Should be at least a gram per pound of bodyweight, but if you're looking for mass I'd recommend 1.5 gr per pound.

I have a funny feeling you're not eating enough. You should be eating at least every three hours if you're looking to gain any reasonable size.

 

[needsize]

dbol has a half life of 4 hours, anavar 8-10, so thats how often they should be taken to maintain even blood levels. Full or empty stomach doesnt matter, just take it when you first get up, and every 4 hours for dbol, and anywhere from 6-10 hours for var

 

[SemperFidelis]

Hey gang this is probably a dumb question but I am a newbie and I need to ask. There is no way I would be able to inject myself as me and needles unfortunatly don't get along. SO my question is then is there anything worthwhile available in oral form and if so what would be the optimum time of day to take them.
Looking to build mass at this point as my diet and protein intake doesn't seem to be cutting it. My BodyFat% hovers around the 10% range and it has proven extremely difficult for me to put on any size even with though I have hired a personal trainer who pratically kills me during my workouts.

Other then protein and creatine I have not taken any other supplements to this point and need something further.

dogy

If you're not ready for needles, you probably aren't ready for AAS.

You will appreciate the gains with an INJ. well over anything used in oral form.

Like you, I, and many others, were very scared of needles and injecting themselves. After the first few though, you will get over it. I'm guessing you could be at a rather young age. Consider your AAS use and read as much as you can.

SemperFidelis

 

[dogy]

Dali although I don't measure exactly I have been shooting for over a gram per pound but you raise a valid point. My job makes it tough to take in anything other then water or protein shakes in the am or afternoon between meals. Guess thats why I am considering other options. My sister who used to compete before she blew out a knee measured everything precisely for each meal every few hours for the upcoming week and then prepared and froze everything in seperate containers. I gave her credit because I just don't have that kind of time. She was single and I was married with kids that means I am on the go constantly

 

[dali]

Dali although I don't measure exactly I have been shooting for over a gram per pound but you raise a valid point. My job makes it tough to take in anything other then water or protein shakes in the am or afternoon between meals. Guess thats why I am considering other options. My sister who used to compete before she blew out a knee measured everything precisely for each meal every few hours for the upcoming week and then prepared and froze everything in seperate containers. I gave her credit because I just don't have that kind of time. She was single and I was married with kids that means I am on the go constantly

Protein shakes are fine to be considered a meal when time is a concern. Each day I shoot for 4 meals with a protein shake and a piece of fruit in between each, so I'm usually getting something in my body 8 times daily.

Start out trying to get 3 meals and 3 shakes and take it from there.

 

[dogy]

Much appreciated. Informative site!

 

[wesley90]

You would need proper PCT with the dbol and anavar also I believe.

 

[StickFigure]

Appreciate the reply but I am curious why the injection is easier on the liver. I know it goes directly to the bloodstream but would that not eventually affect the liver in the same manner?

dogy

From what I read, part of the reason orals are harder on the liver is due to the C-17-Alpha-Alkalated coatings on the tabs but I'm still learning so there may also be other reasons.

 

[dr0832]

Considering other options? You do realize that it does not matter if you take 3g of gear, if you not eating a ton of food. You will grow but it will mostly just be water gains and minimal LBM if you can't eat a lot of food.

 

[dogy]

You would need proper PCT with the dbol and anavar also I believe.

Sorry but bear with me... what is PCT?

 

[Decaj]

Considering other options? You do realize that it does not matter if you take 3g of gear, if you not eating a ton of food. You will grow but it will mostly just be water gains and minimal LBM if you can't eat a lot of food.

Excellent point Dr0832