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[THeMaCHinE]

Not looking to blow up (i.e. water retention/fat). Want to do a cycle to gain some quality/keepable muscle and to increase hardness/lose fat.

Because the chinese sells in lots of 100, it will be a 50-day (7-week) cycle; Yes, I know it is (mostly) 17aa; but I'll be OK. Done 7-week cycles of 17aa @ 100-125mg ed before w/ no problem. As a backgrounder, last cycle was almost all oral (50mg dbol/50 - 75 mg winny ed) and peaked at 15 lbs., kept 10.

Also, don't tell me to stack in an injectable. I know. I want to try an oral-only cycle. (All of my previous cycles have included injectables)

I will be using clomid post-cycle. Here's what I'm considering:

option 1
Anadrol (50 mg) -- 1 ed, wks 1-4
Methyl-DHT (50mg) -- 1 ed, wks 5-7
Winny (50 mg) -- 1 ed throughout

option 2
Winny @ 100 mg ed for 7 weeks

Which will give me the best results in terms of the goals I outlined above?

FYI -- I'm 6'0, +/- 10% bf, 215

 

[whodaman]

Option 2 is the best in my opinion....I don't know why you chose to do an oral only cycle, but if you change your mind....you'll be much happier with the results if you add fina @ 75mg ed weeks 2-8 and throw some test in the mix. That would make a killer cycle!!

 

[THeMaCHinE]

Option 2 is the best in my opinion....I don't know why you chose to do an oral only cycle, but if you change your mind....you'll be much happier with the results if you add fina @ 75mg ed weeks 2-8 and throw some test in the mix. That would make a killer cycle!!

Yeah, I've been considering fina... Guess part of the reason for oral only is just to see if oral only can do what I want without the hassle of injecting... Really looking for some fat loss, hardness and muscle fullness... not looking to do a traditional bulking cycle...

Also, cost is an issue... I can snag either of the above 2 cycles for $100. Either of the above cycles offers 700 mg/wk of roids. Can't do that with an injectable (that I'm comfortable with injecting... i.e. no brovel, **, etc.). Don't have to spend additional $$ on pins and barrels, or on arimidex/nolva. Already have enough clomid on hand for either of the above cycles.

 

[THeMaCHinE]

Damn. Knew I should have put a catchier title on the post.

 

[da big thinker]

hey machine...what's up bro?i would go w/ option 2,even though i am against winny only cycles...but i would add some chinese anavar as well @ 40-50mg/ED for the full 7 weeks or if $$$'s are an issue,then hit the anavar at the last 4 weeks of option 2.hope this helps bro...ps:remember to add clomid post cycle...depression might be an issue as well,w/ a winny only cycle...we spoke about that one...remember?GOOD LUCK IN ANY CASE...

 

[THeMaCHinE]

thx killer

 

[da big thinker]

no prob...ps:my friend just finished a winny/anavar cycle...ran it for 8 weeks total...came out harder and dropped a total of 3.5%...vascularity improved... a total of 11 lbs on the scale!!!nevertheless,he felt brutal joint pain at the end of his cycle and added glucosamine/chondroitin sulfate in his supplementation...if i were you, i would def stock up on that and add it to alleviate as much joint pain as possible...ps:i swear i didn't do it...i was framed...but that was like 8 yrs ago...in ref to your killer statement...