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jeter557629
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I have all that I need to start a 10 wk SUS 500mg every 3.5 days and 25mg D-Bol\day for 5 weeks then 3 weeks of Clomid Therapy starting 2 weeks after my last shot. I have all of my natural supplements which include my prostate, liver and hair protection + Protein Sups and all the chicken and eggs I need. And of of course I'm ready to train like an animal.
I wrote into the board last month trying to figure out the optimal time to begin given my stats at the time.
What I was
31 5 10 195 and I assumed to be around 17-18% BF (you know what happens when you assume)..anyway I was told to lose weight and get my BF down to around 12% before I start my cycle...so I began to do just that (45 minute cardio sessions and huge reduction in carbs while I keep the Protein high so I wont lose any muscle)....about 2 weeks into it after feeling lighter I decided to actually measure my BF...to my amazement I was much fatter than I initially thought....turned out to be 27%...its been almost a month and I'm down to 188 and 23.5%
Here is my concern....at the pace I'm going at I will have to get to around 170 to get to around 15%BF or around 165 to get to around 12%....DOES THIS MAKE ANY SENSE to do this to myself??? I think that going down that low will do more harm then good. Remember I am still natural and it is virtually impossible to lose this kind of BF while maintaining my strength and muscle. As we all know it's a different story while your juicing. Ill end up taking 3 steps backward just to prepare my self to move 4 steps forward.
I really do not want to fall below 180 and even if i lose 8lbs of fat that would still leave me at around 20%...i know this seems high but dont you think its fair to say that 20% on one person may look different than 20% on another? or is 20% just 20% regardless? I really don’t look fat..i have a 34 in waste and hardly any fat on my legs and chest..got a little pouch going on the gut..here are my latest caliper measurements:
chest-24mm Leg-27mm abdomen-29mm
I am not genetically gifted..I am not the thin skin type...i am the skinny ankle and wrist type...if i got down to 165-170 I'd look like a little kid
I did the same cycle 7 years ago and I gained around 16lbs which was mostly muscle...and of course additional muscle will aid in the fat burning process which it did just that..didnt keep records on BF back then but i would say my BF went down while my muscle and weight increased substantially.
That being said I would like to throw the question out there again. Does it make sense to start my cycle at 180 around 20%? My intentions are a little different that a typical newbie starting their 1st cycle. This is not about getting huge and super strong for me. I already bench and squat over 300lbs. I want to heal some nagging injuries, get stronger, better define and sculp my muscle. I plan on continuing my cardio sessions while on my cycle. I know my appetite and my need for protein will increase but I do not see a reason why my BF will not continue to go down while my muscle size and weight increases. At the end of the cycle I expect to be back to around 196 and have my BF down to around 15%..Id be happy with this...My next cycle would then focus on reducing the 15% to the 10-12% range while maintaining my muscle or slightly increasing it.
Does this all make sense I do need to go back to steroid school?
jet
I wrote into the board last month trying to figure out the optimal time to begin given my stats at the time.
What I was
31 5 10 195 and I assumed to be around 17-18% BF (you know what happens when you assume)..anyway I was told to lose weight and get my BF down to around 12% before I start my cycle...so I began to do just that (45 minute cardio sessions and huge reduction in carbs while I keep the Protein high so I wont lose any muscle)....about 2 weeks into it after feeling lighter I decided to actually measure my BF...to my amazement I was much fatter than I initially thought....turned out to be 27%...its been almost a month and I'm down to 188 and 23.5%
Here is my concern....at the pace I'm going at I will have to get to around 170 to get to around 15%BF or around 165 to get to around 12%....DOES THIS MAKE ANY SENSE to do this to myself??? I think that going down that low will do more harm then good. Remember I am still natural and it is virtually impossible to lose this kind of BF while maintaining my strength and muscle. As we all know it's a different story while your juicing. Ill end up taking 3 steps backward just to prepare my self to move 4 steps forward.
I really do not want to fall below 180 and even if i lose 8lbs of fat that would still leave me at around 20%...i know this seems high but dont you think its fair to say that 20% on one person may look different than 20% on another? or is 20% just 20% regardless? I really don’t look fat..i have a 34 in waste and hardly any fat on my legs and chest..got a little pouch going on the gut..here are my latest caliper measurements:
chest-24mm Leg-27mm abdomen-29mm
I am not genetically gifted..I am not the thin skin type...i am the skinny ankle and wrist type...if i got down to 165-170 I'd look like a little kid
I did the same cycle 7 years ago and I gained around 16lbs which was mostly muscle...and of course additional muscle will aid in the fat burning process which it did just that..didnt keep records on BF back then but i would say my BF went down while my muscle and weight increased substantially.
That being said I would like to throw the question out there again. Does it make sense to start my cycle at 180 around 20%? My intentions are a little different that a typical newbie starting their 1st cycle. This is not about getting huge and super strong for me. I already bench and squat over 300lbs. I want to heal some nagging injuries, get stronger, better define and sculp my muscle. I plan on continuing my cardio sessions while on my cycle. I know my appetite and my need for protein will increase but I do not see a reason why my BF will not continue to go down while my muscle size and weight increases. At the end of the cycle I expect to be back to around 196 and have my BF down to around 15%..Id be happy with this...My next cycle would then focus on reducing the 15% to the 10-12% range while maintaining my muscle or slightly increasing it.
Does this all make sense I do need to go back to steroid school?
jet
