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Opinions on this (relatively) low dose cycle please...

40butpumpin

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This is what I'm currently set to go with. Calories are high and healthy. I also have arimidex and dostinex on hand in case of bloating and gyno sides, respectively. The real unknown for me is how the tren will feel along side the deca. If I have issues with the two together I'll just drop the tren and bring on more test in the form of either sustanon or prop at about 300mg per week and save the tren for later.

test enanthate 200mg wk now-forever lol
deca 200mg wk 1-10
dbol 20mg ed wk 1-10
tren 25mg ed wk 1-6
proviron 50mg ed wk 1-10

I'm 238 right now and I'm willing to bet I'm going to be 255 by July 1st without gaining any bf. That's a 17 lbm gain. Any takers? :)
 
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Looks pretty good to me, brother. Are you on HRT? Have you ever thought about HGH?


But, yeah, I think your cycle looks good. It's a lot lower than the doses you usually see posted here, but that's because you have it together when it comes to training, eating, and resting. Good luck on 255. You'll be there in no time.


You see this cycle, people? You see these doses? Think of the money you could save, lol. :D
 
slobberknocker said:
Looks pretty good to me, brother. Are you on HRT? Have you ever thought about HGH?


But, yeah, I think your cycle looks good. It's a lot lower than the doses you usually see posted here, but that's because you have it together when it comes to training, eating, and resting. Good luck on 255. You'll be there in no time.


You see this cycle, people? You see these doses? Think of the money you could save, lol. :D
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Thanks brother. :) Yes I have used gh in the past and responded quite well to it in fact. It's just out of my financial league right now, however, to take on that monthly bill. With that said I have to say these doses are not driven by cost at all. Based on my previous experiences I'm convinced I can grow with this cycle.
 
looks good except for the deca. bump it to 400mg in my opinion.
 
satchboogie said:
looks good except for the deca. bump it to 400mg in my opinion.
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Thanks for the input bro. Yes, I've always done deca at 400mg in fact so that was a tough call for me. But I really wanted to squeeze the tren in there for personal reasons and thought it wise to adjust the deca down to allow for it. I also get some nasty night sweats from deca (basically my only deca side) which I wanted to see if I could mitigate by lowering it. :)
 
Canuck4 said:
Id bump the Test to 400mg if you could.
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I can, I have plenty of test. But I want to first wait and see how the deca/tren worked out and then maybe add sust or prop if it didn't work out. We'll see, I may just be doing that. Thanks man.
 
Dial_tone said:
I like the cycle but I think if you're going to do Tren in that low dosage you may as well leave it out. I don't think that little bit will do anything. Unless Tren is known to be hard on you I would up it to 50mg ED and preferably 75mg. 25mb is 1/3 ml? That's not worth the time to shoot it. At least go 50mg EOD then to save a few shots.
I've been doing Fina spray alone and I'm up 7 lbs since March 1. My major lifts are up 40 lbs each. I'm dosing 150mg ED but since it's transdermal I'm lucky if I'm absorbing 40% of that.I'm switching to injecting tomorrow actually. To date I have not experienced a single side effect. I sleep great, no night sweats and my libido is so far intact...in fact the last week it actually feels up.
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Yes I like the idea of doing the 50mg eod instead of 25mg ed. I'm going to stick with the dose, however. My one tren experience was like yours in that all was great during cycle, however, post cycle was BRUTAL. lol But my idea for this time around with tren is to use it longer (6 weeks as opposed to 4) but at a lower dose. Thanks for the input bro. :)
 
Underdosed?
Are you talking about homebrew Tren with fina pellets or premade with Tren powder? :confused:

BigAndy69 said:
Most 75mg/ml tren is really 50mg/ml and people get good results of 75mg EOD which is 50mg EOD.
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Canuck4 said:
Underdosed?
Are you talking about homebrew Tren with fina pellets or premade with Tren powder? :confused:
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Both actually, most homebrew is more like 30mg/ml anyway.

50mg/ml (labeled 75mg/ml) is actually VERY good as the tren used is Usp24, very high quality.
 
Dial_tone said:
Why would homebrew be that low? Where is it all going? I used two carts for a 4gram kit.
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To tell you the truth, I don't know the exact process. I've had numerous tests done on many Tren products...including homebrew and I have very rarely found 75mg/ml (Never even close with homebrew)...IP Tren tested out at 91mg/ml once...but came out at 53mg/ml another time..Spectro Tren's early batches (April) tested out at 75mg/ml.
 
I went on a small cycle and had the best gains I have ever had.

21 days: 20mg dbol 5 mg every 6 hours yes even at night
7 days: off

21 days: 600mg prop/week-ouch!!!
7 days: off

21 days: 1 A-bomb per day, 1/2 every 12 hours

also took 1mg arimedix/day the only time during cycle I converted was during the A-bombs and it was just a little- as a side note i convert very easily

also took 2 proviron per day.

I did slin 9 times, 10iu of R during the A-Bomb run. No sides at all.

The reason I took the drugs consectivly was after each drug I did a blood test to see how my conversion was. It wasnt an issue. What did suprize me was the changes I made on such low doses compaired to my normal cycles. I went from 248 to 262 in that period of time and clipped @8.3 BF the whole time.

A doctor friend of mine suggested I try this to check conversion rates, I figured it would be a waste of time but I was 100% wrong best cycle I ever did.
 
AS a side note to my above post I didnt fall in the hole after the cycle. I think this was due to the lower doses and the hole can be a bad place for us old guy's.
 
Big Mac Attack said:
I went on a small cycle and had the best gains I have ever had.

21 days: 20mg dbol 5 mg every 6 hours yes even at night
7 days: off

21 days: 600mg prop/week-ouch!!!
7 days: off

21 days: 1 A-bomb per day, 1/2 every 12 hours

also took 1mg arimedix/day the only time during cycle I converted was during the A-bombs and it was just a little- as a side note i convert very easily

also took 2 proviron per day.

I did slin 9 times, 10iu of R during the A-Bomb run. No sides at all.

The reason I took the drugs consectivly was after each drug I did a blood test to see how my conversion was. It wasnt an issue. What did suprize me was the changes I made on such low doses compaired to my normal cycles. I went from 248 to 262 in that period of time and clipped @8.3 BF the whole time.

A doctor friend of mine suggested I try this to check conversion rates, I figured it would be a waste of time but I was 100% wrong best cycle I ever did.
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Very interesting bro, how long did you do this for? Also, how much of an impact do you feel the slin was overall? I'm going to try this with the dbol, thanks for the input bro! :)
 
Run it like you wrote it. The idea of experimenting with different cycles is to EXPERIMENT. As soon as you ask for advice on an experiment... people try to rewrite it to look like everything you have done before.

Also, as a caveat... a couple people suggested you bump the deca up to 400mg. I am doing deca at 300mg now. Back in the '80s we did 200mg. I think deca is a drug of deminishing returns. If you stay at 300mg... you never hear of anyone complain of "deca dick" but the guys who go 400mg and higher are always complaining that their plumbing doesn't work.
 
SofaGeorge said:
Run it like you wrote it. The idea of experimenting with different cycles is to EXPERIMENT. As soon as you ask for advice on an experiment... people try to rewrite it to look like everything you have done before.

Also, as a caveat... a couple people suggested you bump the deca up to 400mg. I am doing deca at 300mg now. Back in the '80s we did 200mg. I think deca is a drug of deminishing returns. If you stay at 300mg... you never hear of anyone complain of "deca dick" but the guys who go 400mg and higher are always complaining that their plumbing doesn't work.
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Yes bro, from all that I've gathered about deca whether it be from reading posts as they've appeared or doing back searches, I've come to the same conclusion. I'm very confident 200mg will work well.

Thanks for the input, SG. :)
 
Like you said at the start, you are contemplating a low dose cycle. People will tell you to bump up the doses here and there. But you have a good stack that should yield some nice gains.
 
hehe no problems bro's, it comes with the territory as you both know. But I'm glad to know my bro's inputs and for them to know what I'm up to. :)

But a cycle that can withstand and remain as originally stated, with sensical justification of coarse, can be nothing but a good sign I think.
 
I ran that cycle just like i wrote it 21 days on/7 days off. It was a total of 12 weeks. The slin at the end of the cycle was amazing, never did anything like it before. I chose the end of the cycle cause thats usually when you flatten out-ie receptiors are full and the drugs dont work as well. I forgot to mention that I was also taking 2 iu of Genotropin/day.

I also agree that Deca is a drug of diminishing returns. Less is better I have used it for years at dofferent doses. I think that 200mg/week is about right. 400 is too much. I have shut down when I did a Bottle(10 ml) in 2 weeks(QV 300mg/ml) once-my joints were hurting. It took 3 months and 6 or 7 bottles of Pregnyl to get back on track. But it did fix my joints.
 
Big Mac Attack said:
I ran that cycle just like i wrote it 21 days on/7 days off. It was a total of 12 weeks. The slin at the end of the cycle was amazing, never did anything like it before. I chose the end of the cycle cause thats usually when you flatten out-ie receptiors are full and the drugs dont work as well. I forgot to mention that I was also taking 2 iu of Genotropin/day.

I also agree that Deca is a drug of diminishing returns. Less is better I have used it for years at dofferent doses. I think that 200mg/week is about right. 400 is too much. I have shut down when I did a Bottle(10 ml) in 2 weeks(QV 300mg/ml) once-my joints were hurting. It took 3 months and 6 or 7 bottles of Pregnyl to get back on track. But it did fix my joints.
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Great info bro, thanks much for sharing this! :)
 
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