Opinions on this Cycle?

[rconro01]

Hi All. I want to start by saying that this will be my first cycle, but I have done a lot of research and feel somewhat informed. I do know that I still have a lot to learn but I really want to get opinions on this cycle. I've been lifting consistantly for 2 and a half years naturally. I am 5'10'' 150lbs and about 9%BF and 21 years old. I box and need to move up in weight and have not been able to put the muscle on naturally. Here is the cycle I am considering:
400mg Deca/week for 8 weeks
50mg Winstrol Tabs EOD Weeks 2-8
Proviron 2 Weeks on 2 off for 8 weeks 50mg ED
Clomid Starting immediatley after cycle and going for 3 weeks
Have Nolvadex on hand in case of gyno

What do you think of this as a cycle. My main concern is gyno, because I feel I have a natural tendancy towards it. Two main questions: 1) If I take Nolvadex every day through the cycle would that decrease gyno risks, and only limit my water gains. If so what would be a good dose? 2) Does Nolvadex even do anything for Progesterone induced gyno? If not is there anything that would help. Please respond or email me I would really like to hear your suggestions and opinions.

Thanks
Ryan

 

[jack hust]

first of all nolva will not help with deca gyno whinny should but take it ed not eod and you should stack some test with that deca if you are going to take proviron take it the whole cycle.and if you get some test to stack with your deca take 10 mg of nolva a day untill cycle is over and i hope you got clomid for after cycle.

 

[Digital Ronin]

I'd run it like this...

Wk 1-8 400mg of Test/wk (Prefer Prop/Cyp)
Wk 1-10 400mg Deca/wk and 50mg Winny/ED (comes out to 350mg/wk)
Wk 1-10 Arimidex/ED (0.25mg)
Wk 11 Clomid (300mg-Day 1) (100mg-Day 2-7)
Wk 12 Clomid 50mg/ED
Wk 13 Clomid 50mg/ED

I'd still keep the Nolvadex on hand to be on the safe side.. You could take the Nolvadex/EOD to reduce water retention, but ilke jack hust said, it won't do anything for gyno caused by Deca. Otherwise, the Arimidex (although pricey), will reduce water rentention also and is well worth it...

Btw, how much weight are you looking to add on and what's your diet going to look like? (Total Calories, grams of protien, carbs, fat, etc...)

 

[Adaptek]

only use the nolva if you add some test to the cycle. The winstrol should work well with the deca, use it every day.

Leave out the proviron. It is going to be useless in the deca/win stack, it may only slow down your gains. Try using it after the cycle for a few weeks, to help keep some gains. It will kick start your test production like clomid.

 

[rconro01]

why should I leave out the proviron??

 

[JUICEMAN]

If you are trying to bulk up take out the whinny. However, then you will have no guard against progesterone caused gyno from the Deca. My advice: Instead of Deca buy Equipoise ( much safer and just as good) and if you really want mass add 25mgs Dbol for first 3-4 weeks. Combine that with The test. you already have, and you will get huge. With a good diet you will expect to gain 25+ pounds. Take Nolvadex from beginning of cycle to the end at 20 mgs a day. Once gyno has already started nolv may not be that big of a help then you will be fucked. Good luck!