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Excerpt from Al Franken’s book “Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them”

Bill Clinton's far-reaching plan to eliminate al Qaeda root and branch was completed only a few weeks
before the inauguration of George W. Bush. If it had been implemented then, a former senior Clinton
aide told Time, we would be handing [the Bush Administration] a war when they took office." Instead,
Clinton and company decided to turn over the plan to the Bush administration to carry out. Clinton
trusted Bush to protect America. This proved, nine months later, to be a disastrous mistake - perhaps
the biggest one Clinton ever made.
Clinton's National Security Advisor Sandy Berger remembered how little help the previous Bush
administration had provided to his team. Believing that the nation's security should transcend political
bitterness, Berger arranged ten briefings for his successor, Condoleezza Rice, and her deputy, Stephen
Hadley. Berger made a special point of attending the briefing on terrorism. He told Dr. Rice, “I believe
that the Bush administration will spend more time on terrorism in general, and on al Qaeda specifically,
than any other subject.''
Which brings me to a lie. When Time asked about the conversation, Rice declined to comment, but
through a spokeswoman said she recalled no briefing at which Berger was present" Perhaps so, Dr.
Rice. But might I direct our mutual friends, my readers, to a certain December 30, 2001, New York
Times article? Perhaps you know the one, Condi? Shall I quote it?
“As he prepared to leave office last January, Mr. Berger met with his successor, Condoleezza Rice, and
gave her a warning. According to both of them, he said that terrorism-and particularly Mr. bin Laden's
brand of it-would consume far more of her time than she had ever imagined.'' (Italics mine.)
When I read this, my instinct was to shout for joy and dance around the room, naked, celebrating the
finding of a lie. And I did. "Badda Bing!" I cried, as I ran around the house, my genitals flopping
wildly, embarrassing my wife and her bridge group.
After the dressing down from my wife, who really read me the riot act, it occurred to me that all I had
really found was a contradiction between Time and the Times. Maybe The New York Times had it
wrong. Maybe Dr. Rice, considered a paragon of integrity, had told Time magazine the truth-that her
predecessor had never warned her about the impending threat from al Qaeda and its evil mastermind.
It was time for the Franken investigative juggernaut to assert itself. I called Dr. Rice's office, prepared
to pierce the infamous White House veil of secrecy with a lance of white-hot journalistic enterprise. I
left a message, and they called me right back with the answer. A White House official told me that Dr.
Rice had met with Berger at a briefing, and he had told her about the seriousness of the al Qaeda threat.
Condi lied to Times! Badda Bing!
Anyway. After Berger left, Rice stayed around to listen to counterterrorism bulldog Richard Clarke,
who laid out the whole anti-al Qaeda plan. Rice was so impressed with Clarke that she immediately
asked him to stay on as head of counterterrorism. In early February, Clarke repeated the briefing for
Vice President Dick Cheney. But, according to Time, there was some question about how seriously the
Bush team took Clarke's warnings. Outgoing Clinton officials felt that "the Bush team thought the
Clintonites had become obsessed with terrorism."
The Bushies had an entirely different set of obsessions. Missile defense, for example. The missile
defense obsession proved prescient when terrorists fired a slow-moving intercontinental ballistic
missile into the World Trade Center. If only Clarke had put his focus on missile defense instead of
obsessing on Osama bin Laden.
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld was obsessed with a review of the military's force structure, which
had the potential of yielding tremendous national security dividends ten or fifteen years down the road.
I, personally, am a longtime proponent of force structure review, as anyone who has had the misfortune
to spend any time around me when I am drunk can attest. But I don't think it should be to the exclusion
of everything else. Let me give you one little example: I also believe in FIGHTING TERRORISM.
While all the Bushies focused on their pet projects, Clarke was blowing a gasket. He had a plan, and no
one was paying attention. It didn't help that the plan had been hatched under Clinton. Clinton-hating
was to the Bush White House what terrorism- fighting was to the Clinton White House.
Meanwhile, on February 15, 2001, a commission led by former senators Gary Hart and Warren
Rudman issued its third and final report on national security. The Hart-Rudman report warned that
"mass-casualty terrorism directed against the U.S. homeland was of serious and growing concern'' and
said that America was woefully unprepared for a "catastrophic'' domestic terrorist attack and urged the
creation of a new federal agency: "A National Homeland Security Agency with responsibility for
planning, coordinating, and integrating various U.S. government activities involved in homeland
security” that would include the Customs Service, the Border Patrol, the Coast Guard, and more than a
dozen other government departments and agencies.
The Hart-Rudman Commission had studied every aspect of national security over a period of years and
had come to a unanimous conclusion: "This commission believes that the security of the American
homeland from the threats of the new century should be the primary national security mission of the
U.S. government."
The report generated a great deal of media attention and even a bill in Congress to establish a National
Homeland Security Agency. But over at the White House, the Justice Department, and the Pentagon,
President Bush, Vice President Cheney, Attorney General Ashcroft, and Defense Secretary Donald
Rumsfeld decided that the best course of action was not to implement the recommendations of the Hart-
Rudman report, but instead to launch a sweeping initiative dubbed "Operation Ignore."
The public face of Operation Ignore would be an antiterrorism task force led by Vice President Cheney.
Its mandate: to pretend to develop a plan to counter domestic terrorist attacks. Bush announced the task
force on May 8, 2001, and said that he himself would "periodically chair a meeting of the National
Security Council to review these efforts." Bush never chaired such a meeting, though. Probably because
Cheney's task force never actually met. Operation Ignore was in full swing.
Unbeknownst to Bush and Cheney, Richard Clarke was doggedly pushing his plan to put boots on the
ground in Afghanistan and kill Osama bin Laden. Thanks to Clarke's relentless efforts, the plan was
working its way back up the food chain, after having been moved to the bottom of the priority list, right
below protecting the public from giant meteors.
On April 30, Clarke presented a new version of the plan to the deputies of the major national security
principals: Cheney's chief of staff, Lewis Libby; the State Department's Richard Armitage; DOD's Paul
Wolfowitz; and the CIA's John McLaughlin. They were so impressed, they decided to have three more
meetings: one on al Qaeda, one on Pakistan, and a third on Indo-Pakistani relations. And then a fourth
meeting to integrate the three meetings. Sure, scheduling these meetings would take months, and would
delay the possibility of actually acting on the plan and eliminating al Qaeda, but, according to a senior
White House official, the deputies wanted to review the issues "holistically'' which as far as I can tell
means ''slowly.''
On July 10, 2001, nearly five months after the Hart-Rudman report had warned of catastrophic, masscasualty
attacks on America's homeland and called for better information sharing among all federal
intelligence agencies, Operation Ignore faced a critical test. Phoenix FBI agent Kenneth Williams sent a
memo to headquarters regarding concerns over some Middle Eastern students at an Arizona flight
school. Al Qaeda operatives, Williams suggested, might be trying to infiltrate the U.S. civil aviation
system. He urged FBI Headquarters to contact the other intelligence agencies to see if they had
information relevant to his suspicions. Had Williams's memo been acted upon, perhaps the CIA and
FBI would have connected the dots. And had Hart-Rudman been acted upon, perhaps the memo would
not have been dismissed. Operation Ignore, now in its 146th day, had proved its effectiveness once
more.
The holdovers from the Clinton era - Clarke and CIA Director George Tenet-were going nuts. Bush
administration insiders would later say they never felt that the two men had been fully on board with
Operation Ignore. Tenet was getting reports of more and more chatter about possible terrorist activity.
Through June and July, according to one source quoted in the Washington Post, Tenet worked himself
nearly frantic'' with concern. In mid-July, "George briefed Condi that there was going to be a major
attack," an official told Time.
Only Time would tell what happened next.
On July 16, the deputies finally held their long-overdue holistic integration meeting and approved
Clarke's plan. Next it would move to the Principals Committee, composed of Cheney, Rice, Tenet,
Secretary of State Colin Powell, and Rumsfeld--the last hurdle before the plan could reach the
President. They tried to schedule the meeting for August, but too many of the principals were out of
town. They had taken their cue from the President. August was a time to recharge the batteries, to take
a well-deserved break from the pressures of protecting America. The meeting would have to wait till
September 4.
No one understood better the importance of taking a break to spend a little special time with the wife
and dog than President George W. Bush. Bush spent 42 percent of his first seven months in office
either at Camp David, at the Bush compound in Kennebunkport, or at his ranch in Crawford, Texas. As
he told a $1,000-a-plate crowd at a fund-raiser in June, Washington, D.C., is a great place to work, but
Texas is a great place to relax." That's why on August 3, after signing off on a plan to cut funding for
programs guarding unsecured or "loose” nukes in the former Soviet Union, he bade farewell to the
Washington grind and headed to Crawford for the longest presidential vacation in thirty-two years.
On its 172nd day, Operation Ignore suffered a major blow. Already, the operation was becoming more
and more difficult to sustain as the intensity of terror warnings crescendoed. Now, on August 6, CIA
Director Tenet delivered a report to President Bush entitled, "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.''
The report warned that al Qaeda might be planning to hijack airplanes. But the President was resolute:
Operation Ignore must proceed as planned. He did nothing to follow up on the memo.
Actually, that's not entirely fair. The President did follow up, a little bit. Sitting in his golf cart the next
day, Bush told some reporters, "I'm working on a lot of issues, national security matters.'' Then, Bush
rode off to hit the links, before dealing with a stubborn landscaping issue by clearing some brush on his
property. The next day, he followed up again, telling the press, I've got a lot of national security
concerns that we're working on Iraq, Macedonia, very worrisome right now."
But Iraq and Macedonia weren't the only things on Bush's mind. "One of the interesting things to do is
drink coffee and watch Barney chase armadillos," he told reporters on a tour of the ranch later in his
vacation. "The armadillos are out, and they love to root in our flower bed. It's good that Barney routs
them out of their rooting.''
On August 16, the INS arrested Zacharias Moussaoui, a flight school student who seemed to have little
interest in learning to take off or land a plane. The arresting agent wrote that Moussaoui seemed like
"the type of person who could fly something into the World Trade Center." Trying to pique the interest
of FBI Headquarters in Washington, a Minneapolis FBI agent wrote that a 747 loaded with fuel could
be used as a weapon. lf this information had been shared and analyzed, for example by a newly founded
Homeland Security Agency, it might have sparked memories of the Clinton-thwarted 1996 al Qaeda
plot to hijack an American commercial plane and crash it into CIA Headquarters.
On August 25, still on the ranch, Bush discussed with reporters the differences between his two dogs.
"Spot's a good runner. You know, Barney-terriers are bred to go into holes and pull out varmint. And
Spotty chases birds. Spotty's a great water dog. I'll go fly-fishing this afternoon on my lake." And you
know something? He did just that.
Among those left to swelter in the D.C. heat that August was one Thomas J. Pickard. No fly-fishing for
him. In his role as acting FBI director, Pickard had been privy to a top-secret, comprehensive review of
counterterrorism programs in the FBI. The assessment called for a dramatic increase in funding.
Alarmed by the report and by the mounting terrorist threat, Pickard met with Attorney General John
Ashcroft to request $58 million from the Justice Department to hire hundreds of new field agents,
translators, and intelligence analysts to improve the Bureau's capacity to detect foreign terror threats.
On September 10, he received the final Operation Ignore communique: an official letter from Ashcroft
turning him down flat. (To give Pickard credit for adopting a professional attitude, he did not call
Ashcroft the next day to say, "I told you so.'')
Clarke's plan to take the fight to al Qaeda lurched forward once more on September 4, 2001. Eight
months after he had first briefed Condi Rice about it, and nearly eleven months after Clinton had told
him to create it, Clarke's plan finally reached the Principals Committee that served as gatekeeper to the
commander in chief. Bush was back from his trip, rested up, and ready for anything.
Cheney, Powell, Rice, Rumsfeld, and the other Principals debated the plan and decided to advise Bush
to adopt it with a phased-in approach. Phase One, to demand cooperation from the Taliban and make
fresh overtures to al Qaeda opponents such as the Northern Alliance, would begin the moment the
President signed off on the plan. Phase Zero, however, came first: wait several days as the proposal
made its way to the Bush's desk.
On September 9, as the plan cooled its heels, Congress proposed a boost of $600 million for antiterror
programs. The money was to come from Rumsfeld's beloved missile defense program, the eventual
price tag of which was estimated by the Congressional Budget Office at between $158 billion and $238
billion. Congress's proposal to shift $0.6 billion over to counterterror programs incurred Rummy's ire,
and he threatened a presidential veto. Operation Ignore was in its 207th day.
On Operation Ignore Day 208, Ashcroft sent his Justice Department budget request to Bush. It included
spending increases in sixty-eight different programs. Out of these sixty-eight programs, less than half
dealt with terrorism. Way less than half. In fact, none of them dealt with terrorism. Ashcroft passed
around a memo listing his seven top priorities. Again, terrorism didn't make the list.
On that day, I left for Minneapolis to visit my mom and play some charity golf.
On the next day, the world shook.
The day after that, they started blaming Clinton, covering their tracks, and accusing liberals of blaming
America.
 
You lost me at "Excerpt", but if thats a detailed plan on giving OMGWTFFU the silent treatment then I'm all for it.
 
Bullit said:
You lost me at "Excerpt".

You didn't get to Al Franken... It's actually got some funny bits in it here and there. Al is funny.
 
WODIN said:


He also wrote all those Jack handy qoutes.

Yeah, I know Franken.
The title of the book is great.

Jack Handy was hilarious.
 
Bullit said:


Yeah, I know Franken.
The title of the book is great.

Jack Handy was hilarious.

So we can count on you to move to minnesota and vote for al in the next US senate race then?
 
Way to long.... try underlining the funny stuff or putting it in bold next time....
 
yeah....and the 8 years in office and all of the other attacks were just planning years? How convenient that it was finished just weeks before he left office. He must have had more important things, or people, to do. Oh wait, that's right, he bombed that aspirin factory in sudan...that sure scared those terrorists.
 
Boulder257 said:

I didn't read the article... but apparently boulder is saying clinton was an ass... which I agree with.... so right on!
 
nordstrom said:
Q: Daddy whats an edited synopsis?

A: I dont know son, and apparently neither does WODIN.

Too funny... you made me laugh... You get the short version.

Clinton had a terrorism plan.

Sandy Berger briefed condi on it but she later lied saying "Uhn uh white man!"

Richard Clarke (a clinton hold over) formulated the plan of action to prevent stuff but the bushies were too busy sucking ken lay cock.

Then 9/11 happened.

Then the bushies stopped ignoring Richard Clarke's plan that was formulated under Clinton and Said "Those damn liberals left the door open."
 
Becoming said:
Way to long.... try underlining the funny stuff or putting it in bold next time....

I like how you said "funny" stuff...it's meant to be a serious scathing article...but when matched against reality it is kinda funny!
 
what exactly was clinton's plan? He was a military hating, and draft dodging sex fiend. How did he come up with a plan when he spent his time chopping our forces...by the way, those are the forces that are protecting you and I!
 
Boulder257 said:
what exactly was clinton's plan? He was a military hating, and draft dodging sex fiend. How did he come up with a plan when he spent his time chopping our forces...by the way, those are the forces that are protecting you and I!

As has been said. The next president fights a war with the military of the previous president. Thank you President Clinton for building a modern efficient military for Bush to use in a war that had no justifiable basis in the first place.
 
Wait...in your very first post you are arguing that Bush did not give enough priority to Al Qaeda, but then you argue that the war is unjustified? Guess like other liberals, you will just use whichever argument is convenient...I suggest picking one and sticking with it.
 
Boulder257 said:
Wait...in your very first post you are arguing that Bush did not give enough priority to Al Qaeda, but then you argue that the war is unjustified? Guess like other liberals, you will just use whichever argument is convenient...I suggest picking one and sticking with it.

The war in iraq had no direct link to the hunt for Al Queida. Everyone in the Bush administration has said this.
 
During one of his rare press conferences, President Bush admitted something which completely contradicts what we've been hearing from him, most other politicians, and the mainstream media. Not surprisingly, the media have completely ignored this; I couldn't find a single article that mentions it in any news source, domestic or foreign.

The occasion was a press conference with UK Prime Minister Tony Blair, which took place in the White House on 31 January 2003. Here's the key portion:


[Adam Boulton, Sky News (London):] One question for you both. Do you believe that there is a link between Saddam Hussein, a direct link, and the men who attacked on September the 11th?

THE PRESIDENT: I can't make that claim.

THE PRIME MINISTER: That answers your question.

Under any circumstances, these answers are remarkable for their brevity and directness. No politician answers clearly and in just one sentence. Yet on this crucial matter, Bush and Blair did just that. (True, Blair then launched into his standard speech about how we need to attack Iraq anyway, but his direct answer is brief and to the point.)

What they unambiguously admitted is that there is no connection between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden/al Qaeda. You may recall that bin Laden and al Qaeda are officially blamed for hatching, plotting, and carrying out the 9/11 attacks. That's who the British reporter was referring to. Now the President and Prime Minister have said there is no link between them and the government of Iraq. Could it be any simpler?


the entire transcript on the White House Website

Blair again says there is no Iraq regime/al Qaeda link

propaganda from 26 Sept 2002: "Making the Case: White House Says it Has Evidence of Iraq-Al Qaeda Ties"
 
hmmm...couldn't find it in the news? That surprised me with all of the liberal rags out there (e.g. CNN, MSNBC, NY Times, etc). maybe that's beacause your story takes the entire cicrumstance out of context.

Also, they just captured a high ranking Al Qaeda member in Iraq yesterday! Interesting isn't it?
 
Boulder257 said:
hmmm...couldn't find it in the news? That surprised me with all of the liberal rags out there (e.g. CNN, MSNBC, NY Times, etc). maybe that's beacause your story takes the entire cicrumstance out of context.

Also, they just captured a high ranking Al Qaeda member in Iraq yesterday! Interesting isn't it?

Straight from the White house website.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/01/20030131-23.html
 
Look....I sit 5 feet from my monitor and reading those long things is very uncomfortable at that distance.

Please shorten them down in the future.

5 feet gives me room to really kick back....it is important.
 
WODIN said:
Excerpt from Al Franken’s book “Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them”


Hey W:

Would you please post this over at S-ology too? Thanks.
 
Re: Re: Operation Ignore

Mr. dB said:


Hey W:

Would you please post this over at S-ology too? Thanks.

LMAO!!! You are such a setup artist. Sure!!!
 
DocHoliday said:

Oh shut up ...which ever one of you this is. The 4 headed beast from Texas... Nah more like the 4 headed tiddlywanker (WTF is that?)
 
Boulder = Curling
 
chefwide = geigh...my point? Don't make allegations unless you know them to be true. Some people believe what they read and when you put something in print, they take it as fact despite the fact that it is untrue.
 
Boulder257 said:
chefwide = geigh...my point? Don't make allegations unless you know them to be true. Some people believe what they read and when you put something in print, they take it as fact despite the fact that it is untrue.

So if they catch an Al Quieda Operative in lets say Tacoma Washington then the Federal Govt should declare war on washington state? I'm all for that Washington sucks.

Did you look at the link to the WHITEHOUSE WEBSITE THAT HAS THE STATEMENT IN IT OR ARE YOU ON YOUR OWN OPERATION IGNORE? I POSTED A VALID SOURCE TO REFUTE YOUR BULLSHIT CLAIM.
 
First of all I was referring to chefwide saying I am curling, it was not a response to our previous discussion. I don't like name calling or false accusations so I was trying to make a point to him.

Second, we were having a educated debate until you just went and threw in "bullshit claim". Although I did not agree with yout stance, I at least respected you, up until this point, for being able to formulate an argument and intelligently debate it. Tsk tsk...

Third, my point was not that the claim was false, but that the quote was taken out of context, which it was. Don't turn my argument, read the post and you will see.


We were doing so well having a conversation and debate and then the name calling started...that's where I bough out...I refuse to lower myself. I choose to respect people and their right to an opinion.
 
You're trying to assert a conection between Al Queda - 9 / 11 and the War in Iraq.

Your statement " Wait...in your very first post you are arguing that Bush did not give enough priority to Al Qaeda, but then you argue that the war is unjustified?"

This is proof that your in that majority of idiots who read newsmax, watch fox and think everything else is Liberal Biase. Hence you rate a "Bullshit" on the Right-wing facist scale.
 
Re: Re: Re: Operation Ignore

WODIN said:


LMAO!!! You are such a setup artist. Sure!!!

Thanks. Just wanted to see if The Republican would comment. :D
 
What an amazing excerpt. Franken has a little bit of HappyScrappy in him. (The dancing nude with the genitals flopping about bit)

Also makes very good points.
 
WODIN said:
You're trying to assert a conection between Al Queda - 9 / 11 and the War in Iraq.

Your statement " Wait...in your very first post you are arguing that Bush did not give enough priority to Al Qaeda, but then you argue that the war is unjustified?"

This is proof that your in that majority of idiots who read newsmax, watch fox and think everything else is Liberal Biase. Hence you rate a "Bullshit" on the Right-wing facist scale.

Odin: I have always loved you.

Curling...er.. whatever your name is: you pull the obvious neo-con cop out by quietly avoiding the requirement that you defend the actions of our appointed presidential liar, and when ever anyone calls you stuffed shirts on that point, you go sqawking around the barnyard about some kind of 'namecalling this' or 'liberal that'.

My choice of president lied about sex, he got impeached for it and the only one hurt was the american tax payer who got fucked by the 50+million dollar witchhunt.


Your chosen one lied, sons/brothers/fathers are dieing for it, and it will cost this nations children a large chunk of their future and the respect of the world.

Yet you avoid defending this man. Why? Because he is wrong.
 
Just do some research on the timing of the passage of the Rudman-harte bill that formed the Department of Homeland Security. Then you can see the evident partisan plays that were being done by the bushbarians.

Think about it an istitution like The DOHLS is anathema to the core values of the republican party. This was formulated under Clinton and pushed aside till 9-11.

What I fault the Bush admin for is not paying attention to a valid threat and taking action. He then paniced and created a monster rather than a solution.
 
WODIN said:
Oh shut up ...which ever one of you this is. The 4 headed beast from Texas... Nah more like the 4 headed tiddlywanker (WTF is that?)

Mr 4 headed Beast from TX and I dont wank tiddys! liberal bastard!
 
sh4dowf4lcon said:


Mr 4 headed Beast from TX and I dont wank tiddys! liberal bastard!

See! That was funny. Now your getting the hang of it turd muncher. Yeah!!!

GW deserves to be impeached.
 
WODIN said:


See! That was funny. Now your getting the hang of it turd muncher. Yeah!!!

GW deserves to be impeached.
Only in America is a blowjob a greater sin than mass murder and grand theft on the grandest scale of them all. :)
 
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