open borders with mexico?

[TxCollegeguy]

For those of you who are supporting of illegal Alliens I wish you could see half the shit my Uncle does working for the INS


Illegal Alliens are not Putting more money into this country then they are using. Consider this

How many "Alliens" are actually paying into City, State, or Federal Taxes. Then consider Cities like Dallas Texas where the majority of people within the City limits are Hispanic and an estimated 20-30% are illegal Alliens. The Dallas INS has only 1 or 2k people working there. You really think they are going to be able to deport 20-30% of the largest group of people in the city??

Now take that into consideration with the fact that fines for hiring illegal workers are very small, about a couple hundred bucks per worker. If you owned a business and could hire someone who's willing to work for less then min. wage wouldnt you hire them if you new you would make more money on them even if you risked a fine from the Govt if they are are caught? You wouldn't have to provide Health care or other benefits for them. Where do you think they are going to get their Healthcare???At the City hospital which to my knowledge does not make an effort to report those illegal alliens receiving medical coverage, which in turn is passed on to the tax payers once they default and dont pay up.

This is exactly how I was explained of how things go in Dallas....Now for the rest of the country I could only speculate that they face something similar.

If you want to come into this country you need to do it the right way....I have no sympathy for those who come illegal or try to and get caught, hurt, or die....

I support the idea of opening borders with Mexico, but As I'm sure Vincente Fox realizes he needs in to improve the Educational system in his country so his people can develop better skills and in turn with their economy inproving more jobs to remove the need to sneak into this country before opening the borders

 

[The Varnsen]

Is any of you a native american? If not why are you even talking about this?

 

[TxCollegeguy]

Yes part of my heritage is Native American, My mothers father was part of the Cherokee nation

I think if I everyone pays into the system for the services then I dont care where the hell they come from.

 

[RyanH]

Corporate America will have an increasing role in the eventual disappearance of the Mexico/United States border. NAFTA has already made it possible for future economic expansion of Mexico and other North American countries. There has been a spark in the interests of American companies in recent decades. American companies are finding profitable opportunities in Mexico as well other Central and South American countries.

Corporate America's increasing investment and interest in Mexico/Central/South America has spawned from ever so lenient pro-corporate government tax policies and land grants offered to American companies. Banking laws in these countries have their attractive qualities and make it tempting and worth while for American companies to take advantage.

Corporate lobbyists promote NAFTA and other similar immigration policies only to expand their tentacles into neighboring countries and maximizing their profits.

In reality the rise in illegal immigration into the United States does not threaten or hamper America's progress. Many researches have found immigrants to be beneficial to our economy by fulfilling menial jobs and often stimulating the economy by creating personal businesses.

The influx in legal/illegal immigration is an extension of NAFTA and other trade agreements. Once the border disappears immigration will become a bargaining tool for the Mexican government in allowing American Companies carte blanch within their territories.

Very well said. I would only add that why should Mexicans get special treatment over other immigrants? Isn't this discrimination?

 

[Shrebly]

Half of you have your head up your asses and the rest of you have SOME valid points.... San Diego has entire neighborhoods where no English is spoken - and if it is - it's because the yonger kids are learning it in school. National City, Chula Vista and Bario Logan / Logan Heights are the biggest ones.

Yes, there are illegal's running around - yes they get paid under the table ... and guess where they spend their cash before they cross the border? Geeee... The USA. Ever pull up a chair and see the rush hour traffic crossing over into Mexico? Bags of clothing, food, furniture and assorted oddities go back with them. And before some smart ass assumes they are stolen... most are not.

I am the LAST person that want's to walk into Jack In The Box or Taco Bell and be asked what I want in Spanish. You live here, you work here, speak the fucking language. But face the fact - most Americans don;t want the shit jobs that pay minimum wage - so who gets them? You guessed it. Who are all the nanny's? [Besides Hulk Hogan] Right again.

For those of you who have never been south of the border.... here is the Reader's Digest version. Kids running around everywhere begging for money, cheap knock off items, taxi drivers that love to rip you off, all you drink bars, toothless hookers / prostitutes, a smell that can only be described as day old vomit.... and the list goes on.

Border Patrol is pretty much a joke - they do what they can but when you have 2,000 + a day getting over with fake papers - how much can you expect them to catch? So, it is a complete draw - they do spend a tremendous amount of thier untaxed money in the USA - but they also run across the border to have their kids and get free medical care.

So either seal up the border nice and tight and feel safe in you little "all white" world where everyone speaks English [that will never happen] or open the border completely and let it be a free for all [never happen].

It's a draw... so deal with it.

 

[The Varnsen]

Most of them work and work hard, you know it! They have the jobs white americans rejected before... Look, America is a country of immigrants... Just because your family has been there for 100 years doesn´t make you a better american... Of course some wont fit in the society immediately! They come from a different world... But those are the minority...

 

[TheSalami]

how could america benefit from this? it would fuck us in the long and short run. mexicans would come pouring in cause their country is shit. mexicans think they are taking over the southwestern united states and that might make it a reality. it is their goal to populate those areas and pretty much take it over. thats the fuckin truth. we should use sharp shooters to keep them fuckers out.

 

[The Varnsen]

Uh...oh...ok salami...

 

[RyanH]

The only reason Repubicans are making this an issue is because of: MONEY. They don't give a shit about Mexicans, just their availability to slave away for big companies at minimum wage.......

 

[latinhire]

Spoiled ass , arogant, self centered, momma's boys... everything you have, eat and wear was borne on the backs of the slave labor you call "illegal immigrants" just looking for liberty, justice and the right to a decent future for their children....your roidal juicing ass couldnt compare to a single hair on the ass of these struggling beings striving for a better life...im not even gonna get into it...you ignorant pompass bitches...do some research on US agricultural economics and its profit base in comparison to the cost of legalizing 3 million immigrants before you spew some more diarrea...IGNORANT MOMMA"S BOYS..