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What do you think of our budget? Since when is $55 000 a year a middle income family? 
Ontario peeps....
- Thread starter superqt4u2nv
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$55K CDN is approx $40K US?
FYI the median US income is about $42K per household, so, some perspective.
FYI the median US income is about $42K per household, so, some perspective.
MattTheSkywalker said:
Dam there are a lot of poor people in the US then.
The new taxes here a being impossed on people that make $20 000 or more a year. When I was making that much I was poor as hell cost of living in this city is high.
superqt4u2nv said:
I'm not really familiar with what is going on up there, but, sorry to hear you have to pay increased taxes.
There are a lot of poor people in the US, indeed, except for a few areas of concentrated wealth, most of the country scrapes by hand to mouth.
It affects me a bit it will be about an extra $25 less on each pay check. I can spare it but people that make less and have kids and a family and shit that is what pisses me off.
bluepeter
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No real comment other than I chalk it up to our usual government incompetence. In Toronto alone, we contribute $9 billion more to our Federal government than we receive back in services. Where is my friggin money? Sponsorship scandal, wasteful spending, thousands of high paid government workers that do nothing and Quebec, that's where.
bluepeter said:
Amen!
I would like to get a receipt when I file my income taxes of what percentage of my money went where.
MattTheSkywalker said:
The one trend that is majorly different between the US and Canada is that in the US as you mentioned the wealth is concentrated. Its becoming more of a 2 type level, Upper and Lower class with less and less Middle.
Here for years there has been a Upper, Middle and Lower class, but unless the taxing situation changes we will become more like the US with less Middle Class families and more lower class ones.
Werd
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You'd never know it though by the mountains of plastic junk, CD Roms, video games, nursery monitor, latest "must have baby gadgets", cable TV, gameboy, Xbox (or whatever new shit is "hot" this year), electric motor cars that will only hold a child that is about the age of 3, breakfast - lunch - dinner from McD's, ChuckieCheeze birthday parties for ALL of their classmates and of course, the separate "family party" complete with party bags full of more nonsense plastic junk, trampoline for the backyard, phone AND cable TV in their rooms by the age of 10, et al that MOST Americans buy their kids because THEY GOTTA HAVE THEM OR THEY MAY GROW UP DEPRIVED.MattTheSkywalker said:
Canadians as a nation, get the shit taxed out of them. It's all part of this wonderful experiment called 'socialism'.
The ONLY party I see doing an lick of good is the Progressive Conservatives. Lower tax and paving the way for two-tier health care.
Regardless, all parties will exploit any terror attack as pretext for more big Government and putting the charter through the shredder - even Conservatives that'll run on platform of smaller Government.
We're in the same predicament as the US. There is no national ideology. No widespread committment to the preservation of civil liberties.
The only question becomes how quick will our society descend into a police state?
The answer: right after the US does.
The ONLY party I see doing an lick of good is the Progressive Conservatives. Lower tax and paving the way for two-tier health care.
Regardless, all parties will exploit any terror attack as pretext for more big Government and putting the charter through the shredder - even Conservatives that'll run on platform of smaller Government.
We're in the same predicament as the US. There is no national ideology. No widespread committment to the preservation of civil liberties.
The only question becomes how quick will our society descend into a police state?
The answer: right after the US does.
Yeah I really think Stephen Harper and "new" conservative party would save use.
theoak01
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I voted PC,I didnt like Mcquinty from the get go,he is a fucking goof,raising taxes on smokes,booze ,liscense etc,now these people who buy smokes and such instead of shit for there kids have even less money to feed and clothe them
I know these people should give up their vices but they wont and the government isnt helping
I know these people should give up their vices but they wont and the government isnt helping
superqt4u2nv said:Yeah I really think Stephen Harper and "new" conservative party would save use.
As opposed to the NDP that would bankrupt this nation in a heartbeat implementing their social utopia?
Or the Liberal party that's continually jacked up the taxes you claim to abhor?
If you had read my post, I never claimed any party would 'save' us. I said the only party that could offer incremental benefit to this country - in the short term - is Conservatives. There is a distinction.
Social Utopia is an oxymoron I believe. As for the "new" conservatives they will just do what the rest of the politicians do say one thing tell the get elected then do another.
I am curious to have seen what the PC's would have done with this budget had they gotten re-elected. I am also wondering how they f'd it up so bad before they left office.
I am curious to have seen what the PC's would have done with this budget had they gotten re-elected. I am also wondering how they f'd it up so bad before they left office.
bluepeter
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superqt4u2nv said:
I don't believe for a second that they fucked it up that bad. Any accountant worth their salt can make a 500 million or 2 billion dollar debt look like it's really 6 billion. Dalton McLiar has been moaning about what an enormous debt the PC's left for him because it's convenient for him that way. He's full of shit.
bluepeter said:
So you'd prefer the Liberal ass-clowns stay in office with a proven record of wasteful spending, climbing taxes and massive corruption via the sponsorship scandal than vote for a party fundamentally opposed to rampant taxation whose leadership isn't half as tarnished?
That’s smart.
superqt4u2nv said:
They all lie and break election year promises.
But a party whose elected under the banner of expanding social services is far more likely to jack up taxes HIGHER than a party whose ideology is fundamentally opposed to expanding services and increasing the tax burdon.
