One week after loading Norton anti-virus....

[Testosterone boy]

and making sure it worked perfectly due to the fact that 'live update' was incapacitated a few months ago......I find that:

Auto Protect has been disabled

Email Scanning has been disabled

I've got a brand new virus.



Dang....in one week

 

[JustJacked]

Norton sucks. I use spybot and ad-aware.

 

[Testosterone boy]

Norton sucks. I use spybot and ad-aware.

It may not be Norton.

I always get instant messages from Microsoft after re-installing Norton. How very interesting.


I wonder how many hackers can incapacitate Norton? And do it within a week of install.

 

[Spartacus]

Norton sucks. I use spybot and ad-aware.

5 bombs eh?

 

[Spartacus]

5 bombs eh?

tree bombs

 

[Spartacus]

It may not be Norton.

I always get instant messages from Microsoft after re-installing Norton. How very interesting.


I wonder how many hackers can incapacitate Norton? And do it within a week of install.

I got a six pack

 

[Ish]

You are too paranoid. There aren't any hackers attacking you.

 

[JustJacked]

Anything to do with Microsoft is bad. Explorer and other Microsoft internet programs have so much spyware its crazy. Everytime after I use explorer I run spybot search and destroy, and it finds about 200 critical errors on my PC. Explorer is constantly downlaoding shit on my PC. Ad-aware also detecs known threats and lets you block them when they are trying to download it onto your PC.

 

[Testosterone boy]

I got a six pack

You da big leagues bor.

 

[Testosterone boy]

You are too paranoid. There aren't any hackers attacking you.

care to explain this frequent message as I am logging off:

"Others are logged into your computer. Logging off may cause them to lose data."


This is not a network computer either.

 

[HumorMe]

Will a firewall keep people from logging onto your computer?

 

[Ish]

I just got that message from my laptop. It isn't on the internet in any way right now. I just woke it up and I was at the windows login screen, and I hit turn off, and then shut down. The person logged on is me.

 

[JustJacked]

care to explain this frequent message as I am logging off:

"Others are logged into your computer. Logging off may cause them to lose data."


This is not a network computer either.

I had the same problem. Its spyware. I had someone come over and fix my puter. They installed Spybot and Ad-Aware. It works fine now.

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

did you get norton internet securities also? if you didnt get personal firewall you might as well throw it out the window. run norton anti virus, norton personal firewall, then download adaware and spybot. that will keep you clean.

 

[Spartacus]

You da big leagues bor.

yeah sure,they're bludgeoning us

 

[jerkbox]

lol @ tboy's paranoia....

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

care to explain this frequent message as I am logging off:

"Others are logged into your computer. Logging off may cause them to lose data."


This is not a network computer either.

some programs create lower level users to keep them from having administrator privelidges. this may not be the case, but is possible.

 

[Testosterone boy]

lol @ tboy's paranoia....

very funny


The "paranoid" label is so very interesting. Like so many others, there is little one can do about it.


IN 1998...my medical report was that I had no paranoia whatsoever. That was after a year of chats with a medical school professor on medical ethics.

But hey...if you think its funny...then laugh away.

 

[jnuts]

It only takes *minutes* for a machine to become infected when placed on the internet.

 

[Testosterone boy]

It only takes *minutes* for a machine to become infected when placed on the internet.

Sure....but not many can disable Norton.

 

[jnuts]

Sure....but not many can disable Norton.

Sure they can - especially if you are logged in with admin permissions.... which I'm guessing you are.

 

[Testosterone boy]

Sure they can - especially if you are logged in with admin permissions.... which I'm guessing you are.

Not sure what you mean here.


I want a setting that does not allow a damn thing.


I'll just a buy another computer when this thing sinks, that one will not be connected to the internet.

 

[HumorMe]

Not sure what you mean here.


I want a setting that does not allow a damn thing.

 

[Testosterone boy]

good one

 

[jnuts]

http://www.iitb.ac.in/~mlc/winsecure.php

" -> When you are done installing, updating and securing your Windows XP, login as USER with the passphrase you resetted it to previously. Only use ADMINISTRATOR account/permissions when you REALLY need to install/update/modify some settings. Logging in as administrator permissions is severe security risk and it should be avoided at all costs."

 

[Testosterone boy]

http://www.iitb.ac.in/~mlc/winsecure.php

" -> When you are done installing, updating and securing your Windows XP, login as USER with the passphrase you resetted it to previously. Only use ADMINISTRATOR account/permissions when you REALLY need to install/update/modify some settings. Logging in as administrator permissions is severe security risk and it should be avoided at all costs."

Serious pain in the ass.


Can't one just get a $400 router or something?

 

[BrothaBill]

I downloaded a firewall program that detects everyone trying to logon to my ports, it flashes a question if I want to let them I always say no.
I have a spyware program that I run periodically and it found a bunch of spy programs the first time, then I put up the firewall and not one program has been turned up when I run a spy check, no viruses either. Both were free downloads. I dont know if there is anything else going on thats not being detected but it has eased my mind.

 

[jnuts]

Can't one just get a $400 router or something?

You have to think layers of defense. Some easy steps for you...

Router/NAT device - the external and first layer.

Software firewall on computer - Zone alarm, etc.

Don't use software that says "fuck me" to script kiddies. In other words... dont' use Internet Explorer and Microsoft Outlook/Outlook Express. Use Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird instead.

Anti-virus software - Norton, etc.

At this point, for your level, you've put up a good passive/ semi-active defense.

Now, don't do anything stupid to let bad software install itself.

All can easily be subverted if malicious code is easy to run on your system.

DON'T RUN A LOGIN THAT HAS ADMIN PERMISSIONS.

Step through the link - create an XP login that doesn't have admin permissions.

WHY? Because software will not easily install if it isn't run with Admin permissions.

You don't do these things.... expect to be zombied real effin quick.

 

[Testosterone boy]

You have to think layers of defense. Some easy steps for you...

Router/NAT device - the external and first layer.

Software firewall on computer - Zone alarm, etc.

Don't use software that says "fuck me" to script kiddies. In other words... dont' use Internet Explorer and Microsoft Outlook/Outlook Express. Use Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird instead.

Anti-virus software - Norton, etc.

At this point, for your level, you've put up a good passive/ semi-active defense.

Now, don't do anything stupid to let bad software install itself.

All can easily be subverted if malicious code is easy to run on your system.

DON'T RUN A LOGIN THAT HAS ADMIN PERMISSIONS.

Step through the link - create an XP login that doesn't have admin permissions.

WHY? Because software will not easily install if it isn't run with Admin permissions.

You don't do these things.... expect to be zombied real effin quick.

How about we incarcerate hackers instead.

 

[jnuts]

How about we incarcerate hackers instead.

That's not gonna solve YOUR problem.

 

[Testosterone boy]

That's not gonna solve YOUR problem.

There is little I can likely do about MY problem.


Sometimes....the greater the defence, the more it entices those who can overwhelm anything.


Iraq, for example, was attacked because it was perceived to be well defended. We thought they were hiding something.

They would have been better off with almost no military.