ON or OFF Drinking Coffee? why? It is not helping you

[OMEGA]

Caffeine stimulates the pancreas to release insulin DIRECTLY as in COFFEE

It also raises Cortisol Levels.

Throwing you out of whack for 6-8 hours with Elevated Insulin AND Cortisol levels

not a good thing for those dieting actually.......... or on AAS

Co ingestion of foods that are easily stored as fat coupled with High Cortisol and insulin levels are a ONE-TWO punch for stubborn belly fat.
A Evil fat recipe if you will.

It is the SMART FAT burners by design and knowledge which actually work,
that by FAR are much more effective and much better then Coffee.


Fat Burners are better then Coffee By far for fat Burning.

The Good or Smart Fat Burners have things to counter the mal effects of caffeine while deriving all the benefits.

Green tea contains L-theanine which counters many of the negative effects of caffeine.
Oolong and , and the other Teas also help provide additional coverage.

But thats not all there are many other things in certain standardized extracts offer that go even further, And that address MULTIPLE PATHWAYS for Fat Burning.


LIPOFLAME™ is coming any day now
hopefully you can may consider instead of Coffee.

 

[Mrpumped]

I will never stop using coffee unless medically I have to. A supp, though, like you said and coffee is my way of burning fat. I'll have to check out your site to read up on this new fat burner.

 

[OMEGA]

I will never stop using coffee unless medically I have to.

Your not the only one I was just sharing
I would be a Hypocrite if I said I did not have coffee Three times a week
But I reserve it for leisure, NOT on the serious workout days where an OPTIMAL environment is needed.

 

[Jacob Creutzfeldt]

Don't beta-agonists like clenbuterol and ephedrine create insulin resistance and increase cortisol? The ephedrine/caffeine combo is considered a potent fat loss therapy. Perhaps the increases in insulin are physiologically insignificant in the metabolically normal population.

 

[string_bean00]

I drink a whole pot before each workout and my gains have always been great, can't imagine them being any better if I had cut it out

 

[OMEGA]

Ephedrine is a alpha and beta adrenergenic,
Clen only works on your beta receptors and only showed real promise in animal models NOT HUMANS.

I am against Clen usage in any form and against Ephedrine usage is excess of 24 mgs a day or more then two doses at no more then 12 mgs.

The ephedrine/caffeine combo is considered a potent fat loss therapy YES, but not a safe one, and works through killing appetite to an extreme degree and also what I would say to be an UNSAFE metabolic stimulus.

Just because it works dose not mean its good for you.

The comparison was making is Coffee ( a common drink) vs. a smart and healthier option

 

[OMEGA]

I drink a whole pot before each workout and my gains have always been great, can't imagine them being any better if I had cut it out

If it works for you then your lucky.

 

[OMEGA]

"Perhaps the increases in insulin are physiologically insignificant in the metabolically normal population."

I think that with the pandemic of obesity, insulin issues, and other health issues associated with the American way of life that we may see things as much more hard hitting and closer to home and REALLY an issue as we age and see others effected by it.

Coffee is not a aid its a another contributing factor to a blunting of health not HELPER of health.

 

[corporate ceo]

Whether it's true or not is irrelevant. His interest in bringing this up and highlighting this regarding coffee is to push-and-peddle his own product. This board has notoriously and historically been famous for it. Notice how he mentions this "characteristic" about coffee, then immediate says "the SMART FAT burners that actually work"... Well, what SMART FAT burner do you think he would tell you about if you asked?....yes, you guessed it, AMPLIFY02. It is almost insulting that people are crazy enough to go to such a crappy website and buy a product that they solely hear about on this board by product-peddlers.

CEO

 

[silver_shadow]

Whether it's true or not is irrelevant. His interest in bringing this up and highlighting this regarding coffee is to push-and-peddle his own product. This board has notoriously and historically been famous for it. Notice how he mentions this "characteristic" about coffee, then immediate says "the SMART FAT burners that actually work"... Well, what SMART FAT burner do you think he would tell you about if you asked?....yes, you guessed it, AMPLIFY02. It is almost insulting that people are crazy enough to go to such a crappy website and buy a product that they solely hear about on this board by product-peddlers.

CEO

yea i think it was meant to be that in part - but i saw something about green tea down there.

 

[Papa Lion]

yea i think it was meant to be that in part - but i saw something about green tea down there.

yeah the largest part.... sounded to me like a basic advertisement...

 

[silver_shadow]

yeah the largest part.... sounded to me like a basic advertisement...

well, i read what i wanted to

 

[MR Pink]

Coffee is rich in anti-oxidants
Coffee drinkers have a lower risk for type 2 diabetes
Coffee drinkers have lower chance of developing parkinson's
Coffee drinkers have a lower chance of developing alzheimers
Coffee is good for the liver
Coffee tastes good

 

[billfred]

Coffee is rich in anti-oxidants
Coffee drinkers have a lower risk for type 2 diabetes
Coffee drinkers have lower chance of developing parkinson's
Coffee drinkers have a lower chance of developing alzheimers
Coffee is good for the liver
Coffee tastes good

absofuckinlutely

 

[Anthony Roberts]

Whether it's true or not is irrelevant. His interest in bringing this up and highlighting this regarding coffee is to push-and-peddle his own product. This board has notoriously and historically been famous for it. Notice how he mentions this "characteristic" about coffee, then immediate says "the SMART FAT burners that actually work"... Well, what SMART FAT burner do you think he would tell you about if you asked?....yes, you guessed it, AMPLIFY02. It is almost insulting that people are crazy enough to go to such a crappy website and buy a product that they solely hear about on this board by product-peddlers.

CEO

I tend to disagree. It's highly relevant. If he's providing good, honest information, then he's a benefit to the site.

We (people who earn money from this site) operate (hopefully) in a synergistic environment where we help people out with their goals using the same knowledge we put into our products.

I wrote a bunch of steroid stuff *(books, etc...), and I give out info on AAS for free here. I also formulated a bunch of nutritional stuff that I think is really great. And if I can help members here, and earn a living because they purchase my products, then we have a symbiotic environment where we all benefit.

The important part (that you think isn't) is that we provide good, honest info, and quality products.

 

[anthony518]

what about the energy drinks? What about when your on and using AI, doesn't that have cortisol lower effects>?

 

[OMEGA]

corporate ceo

I have always said this years back, and always made the case for Green Tea and the other smarter Fat burners. Something does not mysteriously change just because happen to be involved in Supps.
Its precisely these things that interest us that give us the motivation to make things.

Mr Pink

many of those studies and ideas within them were either directly or indirectly sought by the coffee industry itself. They know FULL and WELL coffees limitations, and of course good PR can offset the other side of the story.

 

[advanced-stealth]

2 Cups a day for me.

 

[OMEGA]

what about the energy drinks? What about when your on and using AI, doesn't that have cortisol lower effects>?

Depends, some energy drink contain things like Aspartamine and other artifical ingredient that may not be the best for you. Drinks also tend to skimp of some of the more powerful actives and "smart compounds" because they are almost impossible to flavor.
Capsules tend to be better for you since you are just getting the product housed in inert gelatin.

AI's lower estrogen directly or compete with it. The only way it may lower cortisol is if Test is raised.

Dhea is a more direct way to lower cortisol via supplementation

 

[jeb0177]

what? but ALL the fatburners contain caffeine! that's what litterally boosts u up bra?? so green tee and caffeine in fat burners counteract the effect of caffeine by NOT stimulating the pancreas to produce insulin???? is that right????? I love caffeine in pill form or coffee dude don't say that!!!!!

Caffeine stimulates the pancreas to release insulin DIRECTLY as in COFFEE

It also raises Cortisol Levels.

Throwing you out of whack for 6-8 hours with Elevated Insulin AND Cortisol levels

not a good thing for those dieting actually.......... or on AAS

Co ingestion of foods that are easily stored as fat coupled with High Cortisol and insulin levels are a ONE-TWO punch for stubborn belly fat.
A Evil fat recipe if you will.

It is the SMART FAT burners by design and knowledge which actually work,
that by FAR are much more effective and much better then Coffee.


Fat Burners are better then Coffee By far for fat Burning.

The Good or Smart Fat Burners have things to counter the mal effects of caffeine while deriving all the benefits.

Green tea contains L-theanine which counters many of the negative effects of caffeine.
Oolong and , and the other Teas also help provide additional coverage.

But thats not all there are many other things in certain standardized extracts offer that go even further, And that address MULTIPLE PATHWAYS for Fat Burning.


LIPOFLAME™ is coming any day now
hopefully you can may consider instead of Coffee.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

Coffee is a great social drink, and I enjoy it after dinner or whatever...but for fat burning I prefer supplements. In the A.M., before the gym, it's a pill, not a cup of coffee for me....

 

[OMEGA]

what? but ALL the fatburners contain caffeine! that's what litterally boosts u up bra?? so green tee and caffeine in fat burners counteract the effect of caffeine by NOT stimulating the pancreas to produce insulin???? is that right????? I love caffeine in pill form or coffee dude don't say that!!!!!

Was saying smarter theromogenics utlize multiple pathways for fat burning,
BLUNT many of the bad effect of caffeine ( Dependant on the formula). Tap into the strengths of caffeine, and give you more results and in safer fashion.

 

[OMEGA]

Coffee is a great social drink,

but for fat burning I prefer supplements. In the A.M., before the gym, it's a pill, not a cup of coffee for me....

Bingo, EXACTLY

 

[MR Pink]

corporate ceo

Mr Pink

many of those studies and ideas within them were either directly or indirectly sought by the coffee industry itself. They know FULL and WELL coffees limitations, and of course good PR can offset the other side of the story.

This can be said for more than half of the studies posted on this site ...there's usually someone that benefits from a study outcome