? on dosage of test e

[Bigredcanecorso]

hey bro's got a quick question

Is there a difference if you were running test e for 10 weeks at 250mg x2 wk
or if you bumped it up to 250x3, or even 250x4 would that be overkill, even if you were bulking, also with that running deca 300x2 10 wks also.
My real concern is the test e question....thanks

 

[Bigredcanecorso]

come on.....nobody, I have never ran more than 250x2 a week, alot of my bro's say it's better to run it at 750 week or even 1000mg week. Any thoughts

 

[littleguy]

Personally I would run the lower dosage 250 2x per wk. and see if that gives the results vs. side effects you are after, you can always bulk up a litle more later.
My guess is the guys on here that are running a gram a week of test alone are absolute monsters or absolute idiots, no in between.
If you cannot gain on 500mg of "additional"test per week then you must be already at a very high level of muscularity or you train like shit and eat like shit, or you don't produce any test of your own as in a 10 year old prepubescent child.
Yes pro's need MEGA doses amateur gym rats do not which category do you really see yourself in, and where do you plan to be with this whole bodybuilding thing in let's say 10 years? Okay now say 20?..............Do you see my point?
I trained for 15 years drug free and am happy that I did when I am off or on nobody really can tell much difference because I look great year round with constant steady improvement, rather than 90 day mystery muscle that I shit and piss out over the next 90 days........Use your brain and it will help you build muscle.
Also these drugs are designed to supplement hormones that you may be lacking or a little low on not as a total replacement to what you are supposed to be making on your own.
The more people that fuck up on this stuff the more bad press we will have.
Just my 2 cents. PS remember Lyle Alzedo?.. he did wonders for GH.

 

[Bigredcanecorso]

Personally I would run the lower dosage 250 2x per wk. and see if that gives the results vs. side effects you are after, you can always bulk up a litle more later.
My guess is the guys on here that are running a gram a week of test alone are absolute monsters or absolute idiots, no in between.
If you cannot gain on 500mg of "additional"test per week then you must be already at a very high level of muscularity or you train like shit and eat like shit, or you don't produce any test of your own as in a 10 year old prepubescent child.
Yes pro's need MEGA doses amateur gym rats do not which category do you really see yourself in, and where do you plan to be with this whole bodybuilding thing in let's say 10 years? Okay now say 20?..............Do you see my point?
I trained for 15 years drug free and am happy that I did when I am off or on nobody really can tell much difference because I look great year round with constant steady improvement, rather than 90 day mystery muscle that I shit and piss out over the next 90 days........Use your brain and it will help you build muscle.
Also these drugs are designed to supplement hormones that you may be lacking or a little low on not as a total replacement to what you are supposed to be making on your own.
The more people that fuck up on this stuff the more bad press we will have.
Just my 2 cents. PS remember Lyle Alzedo?.. he did wonders for GH.

Thanks bro, I appreciate your honesty and your 2 cents

 

[cranny]

Personally I would run the lower dosage 250 2x per wk. and see if that gives the results vs. side effects you are after, you can always bulk up a litle more later.
My guess is the guys on here that are running a gram a week of test alone are absolute monsters or absolute idiots, no in between.
If you cannot gain on 500mg of "additional"test per week then you must be already at a very high level of muscularity or you train like shit and eat like shit, or you don't produce any test of your own as in a 10 year old prepubescent child.
Yes pro's need MEGA doses amateur gym rats do not which category do you really see yourself in, and where do you plan to be with this whole bodybuilding thing in let's say 10 years? Okay now say 20?..............Do you see my point?
I trained for 15 years drug free and am happy that I did when I am off or on nobody really can tell much difference because I look great year round with constant steady improvement, rather than 90 day mystery muscle that I shit and piss out over the next 90 days........Use your brain and it will help you build muscle.
Also these drugs are designed to supplement hormones that you may be lacking or a little low on not as a total replacement to what you are supposed to be making on your own.
The more people that fuck up on this stuff the more bad press we will have.
Just my 2 cents. PS remember Lyle Alzedo?.. he did wonders for GH.

Bro, you make some really good points on dosage. I have to agree w/ you on that. But why did you put Lyle Alzedo in the mix? He had brain cancer. As far as I know AAS does not contribute to that. Now the mainstream media has sure tried like hell to link the two. But that's bullshit. Did he abuse gear? I would have to say big time. But that didn't cause him to die.

 

[get456]

In one of the stickies... there is a portion that specifically notes to post stats..

Since I dont know if you are 100 or 300 lbs, 15 or 50, 4% or 40% the advice I would give you wont mean much.

Post ur stats and people can help you more...

 

[mikefear]

Personally I would run the lower dosage 250 2x per wk. and see if that gives the results vs. side effects you are after, you can always bulk up a litle more later.
My guess is the guys on here that are running a gram a week of test alone are absolute monsters or absolute idiots, no in between.
If you cannot gain on 500mg of "additional"test per week then you must be already at a very high level of muscularity or you train like shit and eat like shit, or you don't produce any test of your own as in a 10 year old prepubescent child.
Yes pro's need MEGA doses amateur gym rats do not which category do you really see yourself in, and where do you plan to be with this whole bodybuilding thing in let's say 10 years? Okay now say 20?..............Do you see my point?
I trained for 15 years drug free and am happy that I did when I am off or on nobody really can tell much difference because I look great year round with constant steady improvement, rather than 90 day mystery muscle that I shit and piss out over the next 90 days........Use your brain and it will help you build muscle.
Also these drugs are designed to supplement hormones that you may be lacking or a little low on not as a total replacement to what you are supposed to be making on your own.
The more people that fuck up on this stuff the more bad press we will have.
Just my 2 cents. PS remember Lyle Alzedo?.. he did wonders for GH.

What does anabolics have to do with Alzedo? Oh...absolutely nothing.
And AAS is meant to supplement low hormones? Umm..most of these anabolics shut down your HPTA completely..so I am not sure what kind of supplementation you're talking about.. Seems like you just don't want anyone using anabolics..

While I agree with the fact that there's a HUGE different between 500mg/week and 1g a week.. I do not agree with any of the points you made to support your argument.

THis is not at all meant to be rude, just voicing my opinion as well.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[DiamondCutCows]

Big Red, what are your stats and cycle history bor? I'm one of those 230-240lb dudes that just runs 500mg and ups the diet details and still gains...I'm not sure many people NEED to run 750mg let alone 1000mg/wk.

I agree with littleguy that people running a G/week are either monsters or idiots. That's your decision though...it's all about diet dude

 

[mm107]

k to u diamond

great answer

it is all about diet

 

[Bigredcanecorso]

In one of the stickies... there is a portion that specifically notes to post stats..

Since I dont know if you are 100 or 300 lbs, 15 or 50, 4% or 40% the advice I would give you wont mean much.

Post ur stats and people can help you more...

My stats are as follows
222lbs
14%
6'3
lifting for 10 years, been cycling for at least 5
my last cycle was prop/tren/winny
fucking loved it, ran the prop 1-5 100mgeod, then bumped it up 5-10 100mged
tren ace was ran at wks2-8 100mged
winny wks 6-10 60mged
got some very nice vascularity from it, got some defination, and some lean mass, went up to 236, then dropped back down to 222, my diet is clean, and I am in the gym 6 days a week.

 

[get456]

My stats are as follows
222lbs
14%
6'3
lifting for 10 years, been cycling for at least 5
my last cycle was prop/tren/winny
fucking loved it, ran the prop 1-5 100mgeod, then bumped it up 5-10 100mged
tren ace was ran at wks2-8 100mged
winny wks 6-10 60mged
got some very nice vascularity from it, got some defination, and some lean mass, went up to 236, then dropped back down to 222, my diet is clean, and I am in the gym 6 days a week.

My next question would be how often you cycle and what you started at... What Im reading from your post is that you cycled and then basically lost it all from your last cycle... down 14lbs after that cycle basically means you are at net zero right now. Maybe took some time off from the gym? Which is totally understandable but that would alter my response anyway.

But just according to the other doses you have listed. I would not go higher than 750mg on the test e, and twice per week is just fine, or say every 4th day. Personally I like to do two set days per week, because I dont like to write anything down regarding cycling.. So two days is easier to remember.

Also, according to what you posted, IF you are still workign out and lost that much weight... then ur diet is the culprit and therefore i would even suggest only doing 500mg per week and getting ur diet in check because you shouldnt have lost that much weight from the cycle you listed.

As far as deca... I dont like it... the only cycle ive ever done with deca fucked me up when I came off for sure (mood swings, hormone issues, acne, that i have never experienced with any other cycle), that is JUST me personally so I havent done it since. I like test/eq, so I would reccomend that instead of deca.

 

[slat1]

Its all diet. My test levels came back at 302ng/dl. There is a guy on this board who got tested at 3,000ng/dl just from taking 250mgs a week. I outgrow most of the guys at my gym who use 3x to 4x that much.

 

[get456]

There is a guy on this board who got tested at 3,000ng/dl just from taking 250mgs a week. I outgrow most of the guys at my gym who use 3x to 4x that much.

Yup....

Admittedly some people respond better... But as I have heard said before... the more I practice (train) the luckier I get... diet diet diet

 

[littleguy]

Bro, you make some really good points on dosage. I have to agree w/ you on that. But why did you put Lyle Alzedo in the mix? He had brain cancer. As far as I know AAS does not contribute to that. Now the mainstream media has sure tried like hell to link the two. But that's bullshit. Did he abuse gear? I would have to say big time. But that didn't cause him to die.

My only point in bringing Lyle Alzado into the picture was pointing out a ridiculous media frenzy stating he died from growth hormone abuse.
Facts don't have anything to do with it.