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Bigboy555

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whats up bros.......this is my first cycle i put together......right now im 6' tall and weigh 170........im pretty much fit but i have a little gut that i need to get rid of...i hate it :bawling: anyway...heres the cycle
wk sust deca dbol
1-----250----200----20
2-----250----200----20
3-----250----200----20
4-----250----200----20
5-----250----200----0
6-----250----200----0
7-----250----200----0
8-----250----200----0
Clomid 21 days after last shot day1...300 2-11...100 3-21...50
what do you guys think i should expect from this..what kinda weight?

Does this help at all with burnin away the gut? :bawling:

Thanks for the input gentlemen...appreciate it :D
bb555
 
This looks like a bulking cycle, If you want cut go fina/winny/EQ.

Those doses are too low to give you gains, but high enough to shut you down.
 
bullshit

thats a solid amount of gear for a newbie, u should respond well


remember the average male produces 4-10 mg of test a day

now just one amp has 250MG

its quite a bit of test and i think you should do ok and your not that big of a boy so 250 mg sust should be good


looks good man, post your results!!!!!
 
hmmm...i beg to differ though...I'm running 250 sust wk...was 190 or so pre-cycle and now 210-215 depending. What are your exact stats bro. How long have you been training, eating habits, your discipline, ect... all these, along with many more, are important aspects in running a cycle. Always plan ahead. What exactly are your goals here bro??
 
hey bro.
If youre goona take sust250 then youre best off taking it every 3 or 4 days, instead of just once a week. that would maintain more even blood concentrations. I think as long as you are running at least 2 or 3 times a week on your cycle you will lose some fat, and def gain some muscle. just my personal experience.
good luck.
DOCV
 
Sus is ok, but deca at 200mg is plain out shitty first cycle or not.
 
If you've only been training for a year, I seriously would consider gaining some mass naturally. Really not that hard. Yes it more difficult, but well worth it on the long run. Get as big as you can naturally, then hit up the gear. You'll thank me.
 
PURE EXTRACT said:
If you've only been training for a year, I seriously would consider gaining some mass naturally. Really not that hard. Yes it more difficult, but well worth it on the long run. Get as big as you can naturally, then hit up the gear. You'll thank me.
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Hes right, the bigger natural you get i find, the easier to keep gains.:)
 
its easier said than done though.....id wait.......but my way of thinking is...why take the long way when theres a shortcut? anyway...i mean.....is there ever a natural peak?.....if you eat right and train hard wouldnt u be gaining through your entire life? :confused:
 
just up the test to 500 up d bol to 25mg for 5 weeks deca looks fine for first time and your weight should grow good with right diet and work outs
 
We're confusing the kid here:

Leave everything the same except: 1. Shoot the Sust every Five days. 2. Run the deca at 300 mgs. Keep the dbol where it is and up the dosage if you don't respond. I respond to ten mgs, so I'm sure you'll do fine on 20.
 
Bigboy555 said:
its easier said than done though.....id wait.......but my way of thinking is...why take the long way when theres a shortcut? anyway...i mean.....is there ever a natural peak?.....if you eat right and train hard wouldnt u be gaining through your entire life? :confused:
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Because there is no short cut. If you don't know how to eat right or train properly and you don't have a feel for your body yet, both nutrition wise and training wise, then AS will have no effect on your physique. With only a year of training and an obvious lack of knowledge and/or dedication to your diet you certainly have a lot to learn before you can fully utilize AS. You don't just inject and grow. Growth comes from stimulating the muscles thorugh training and then providing them with the proper amounts of nutrients and the proper times. AS can only expedite this porccess, so if you can't eat or train right(which you can't after only a year under your belt) then AS will do you no good. And no, you won't gain through your entire life. There will come a point where your body will no longer be able to add and support a certain amount of muscle tissue. This is because the noatural or endogenous levels of hormones can only support so much musculature. This is where enhancing those hormone levels comes into play...Thus the use of exogenous anabolic hormones in supraphysiological amounts to do for the body what it can't do for itself. That's the true use of AS....To get beyond what you can achive naturaly. Bottom line is you're not ready for AS after only one year. Learn all you can about diet and training as that is where the growth comes form...Natural or juiced.
 
Bar Room Hero said:
We're confusing the kid here:

Leave everything the same except: 1. Shoot the Sust every Five days. 2. Run the deca at 300 mgs. Keep the dbol where it is and up the dosage if you don't respond. I respond to ten mgs, so I'm sure you'll do fine on 20.
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My thoughts exactly.

Oh, by the way, you wil gain a very decent amoumt of muscle w/those doses. And NO, the doses are not too small.

Lets see, if u went w/your original dosages: 250mg sust/wk, 200mg deca/wk, and 20mg d-bol/day ----that would mean you are putting almost 600mg/wk of aas into your body, yes you will grow nicely on that!


Maxx >>>>>

P.S.

If it were me---- 400mg/wk of eth/cyp and no other bullshit! Save the other aas for future cycles when growing doesn't come that easy!
 
Bigboy555, follow PURE EXTRACT's advise. Gain some mass naturally firsts. If you "always end up just eating junk food" you have some maturing to do as well.

You see AAS as a shortcut. If you choose to look at it that way, think of this; your not far enough down the path to even see the shortcut yet.
 
Thanks for the responses....but id have to say.....i see people with hardly any training under there belt doing a cycle and gaining 20-30lbs??? i mean WTF...theres even kids on this board who are 14 and about to start a cycle!!!!!........when u guys started reading up on AS...... did you say to yourself....."im going to wait till im 40 years old and reached my peak to start this stuff"????? I doubt it, the typical person who has love for his body and does research on AS will usally start within a short period of time considering he has a legit source. its easy to say for you guys that are on it now.....if it was presened to you before u were on.... would u have taken it?:mad:
 
Bigboy555 said:
Thanks for the responses....but id have to say.....i see people with hardly any training under there belt doing a cycle and gaining 20-30lbs??? i mean WTF...theres even kids on this board who are 14 and about to start a cycle!!!!!........when u guys started reading up on AS...... did you say to yourself....."im going to wait till im 40 years old and reached my peak to start this stuff"????? I doubt it, the typical person who has love for his body and does research on AS will usally start within a short period of time considering he has a legit source. its easy to say for you guys that are on it now.....if it was presened to you before u were on.... would u have taken it?:mad:
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Just because those "kids" are retarded and do stupid ass shit to their body does that mean you have to be just like them?

Listen, all these guys are trying to do is point u in the right direction from what info that have given them!
Basically, u told them u only have less than a year of training experience--(which you most likely don't have a very good base to start with)-- and u always end up eating junk food---(which is terrible when on juice and off).

I'd swallow my pride if I were u and listen to the good advice given!


Maxx >>>>>
 
Silent Method said:
Bigboy555, follow PURE EXTRACT's advise. Gain some mass naturally firsts. If you "always end up just eating junk food" you have some maturing to do as well.

You see AAS as a shortcut. If you choose to look at it that way, think of this; your not far enough down the path to even see the shortcut yet.
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YEah I seriously don't agree with everyone else telling him to do this, take this amount blah blah blah. He's pretty new to this and hasn't been lifting for that long at all. natural first kiddo.
 
anybody else have opinon on this?????...the fact that i said i eat junk food is bein taken a lil too far though....i mean...i care about my body but im not a freak that will cut out on all the junk food out there....once in a while...everyone knows they do it...by the way.....my question asked b4 was.....did all of u wait till ur natural peak to where your body cant hold the muscle to do a cycle? nobody answered so far....:rolleyes:
 
I noticed you said you have a little gut and you eat junk food better to get your diet down first before you do gear you'll need alot off protien on deca for it to be effective so learn how to count your calories,carbs, and protien and then consider it or it will be a waste of time and money because i know a guy that was like you and like a yo yo up and down and crash diet is the key good luck..
 
thanks bro......at least give me a little hope........alot of guys are putting me down....i know its all meant in a good way....but.......im convinced that im gonna do it.........while im on im gonna rip the t-bones apart......RAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :flylicker

..and to those of of you who dont think ill do well..
:finger:
 
No one is putting you down, we all mean well just like you said. I was training for about 3 years consistantly before I geared up. I suggest you do the same bro. I'm not gonna reply anymore, because I don't think you really give a shit. You want results now and that right there says a lot about you bro.
 
Bigboy555 said:
thanks bro......at least give me a little hope........alot of guys are putting me down....i know its all meant in a good way....but.......im convinced that im gonna do it.........while im on im gonna rip the t-bones apart......RAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :flylicker

..and to those of of you who dont think ill do well..
:finger:
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I guess you're going to learn the hard way steroids aren't magic pills.
 
Personally I think 1 year of training is pretty lame. I see guys who've been training for years at the gym taking all kinds of juice and they still let their heels come up when they squat, don't ever pull from the floor, and guess what - don't get much bigger they just puff up for a bit. Waste of time.

I also don't feel there's any real shortcuts. Nothing good in life ever started with a shortcut - I know cause I've tried countless times myself. Never works out the way you want it.

Training is really where it's at. Deads, squats, benches. Put some effort into your diet but if it's reasonably good try to learn everything about training (and that means not doing what guys in your gym do because most of them suck including a lot of PTers). Search under Westside Barbell Club and Louie Simmons. Maybe order the tapes to learn how to perform the lifts correctly.
 
I waited until I stopped growinh naturally. It took four years. I went from 165 lbs to 205 lbs and I'm 6'4". I knew I had hit a plateau when, despite changing up routine, I stayed ar 205 lbs for almost 18 months. Did my first light cycle and got to 215.
 
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