Omega - Lipostim issues

[superclock]

Omega,
I have been taking four Lipoflame and nine Amp02 before workouts and freakin' love them. I got some Lipostim and I am having a consistent sort of "hypoglycemic" reaction. I take just one and can feel the effects, but then if I exert myself at all I literally need to eat tons of sugar to get straight. I get lightheaded, and feel like I'm crashing hard. Is there something in it that would cause this? It reminds me of the reaction that a diabetic friend of mine experiences where he has to pour Coke down his throat to get his blood sugar up. As I said, I have never felt that way on the Lipoflame and Amp02. I get plenty of water and take all your products with an apple. I do not take the Lipoflame and Lipostim on the same day.

 

[OMEGA]

do not take 4 LIPOFLAME AND 4 Amplify02 at the same time! that double dosing!

At MOST take 2 LIPOFLAME with 5 or 6 Amplify02

As far And LipoStim3 I have no idea it might have to do with how you have been taking too much of the others

 

[dabuffguy]

Omega,
I have been taking four Lipoflame and nine Amp02 before workouts and freakin' love them. I got some Lipostim and I am having a consistent sort of "hypoglycemic" reaction. I take just one and can feel the effects, but then if I exert myself at all I literally need to eat tons of sugar to get straight. I get lightheaded, and feel like I'm crashing hard. Is there something in it that would cause this? It reminds me of the reaction that a diabetic friend of mine experiences where he has to pour Coke down his throat to get his blood sugar up. As I said, I have never felt that way on the Lipoflame and Amp02. I get plenty of water and take all your products with an apple. I do not take the Lipoflame and Lipostim on the same day.

holy fuck dude. 9 amplify02 and 4 lipoflame?

That's dangerous. don't take that much.

 

[superclock]

holy fuck dude. 9 amplify02 and 4 lipoflame?

That's dangerous. don't take that much.

Shit. Now you guys are freaking me out. I'll drop the Lipoflame before workouts and just keep the Amp02. The Amp02 bottle suggests one serving is nine capsules, so that alone should be cool, right? To be honest, it wasn't like I was feeling totally jacked on the Lipoflame/Amp02 combo. I was buzzing a bit, but not shaking or getting the head itchies like an ECA stack.

I'll give the Lipostim another shot.

 

[bobby716]

superclock .. i was having the same issue. i would pop 3 stims go to the gym or play football and when i was done I would feel really light headed and my sight was very blurry so i narrowed it down to 2 things .. eliminate my morning coffee and eat a fruit of some sort of after workout/playing. eliminate any soda or coffee in the morning and for me the lipostim was much more effective and i lost the lightheadness and i find eating a bannana or apple after a workout or football game (right after with your PWO shake) before your PWO meal solved my blurry vison and crashing .. my just be my individual remedy but wont loose nothing by trying it

 

[superclock]

superclock .. i was having the same issue. i would pop 3 stims go to the gym or play football and when i was done I would feel really light headed and my sight was very blurry so i narrowed it down to 2 things .. eliminate my morning coffee and eat a fruit of some sort of after workout/playing. eliminate any soda or coffee in the morning and for me the lipostim was much more effective and i lost the lightheadness and i find eating a bannana or apple after a workout or football game (right after with your PWO shake) before your PWO meal solved my blurry vison and crashing .. my just be my individual remedy but wont loose nothing by trying it

Good to know it's not just me. I will definitely try your suggestions.

 

[superclock]

do not take 4 LIPOFLAME AND 4 Amplify02 at the same time! that double dosing!

At MOST take 2 LIPOFLAME with 5 or 6 Amplify02

As far And LipoStim3 I have no idea it might have to do with how you have been taking too much of the others

I'm confused. How is 4 Lipoflame and 9 Amp02 double dosing, but 2 Lipoflame and 5 or 6 Amp02 is not double dosing? "Double dosing" would imply that they have the same ingredients. Is that true? If I just take 9 Amp02 is that roughly the same as taking 2 Lipo and 5 or 6 Amp02?

What ingredients are different in Lipostim3 than in Lipoflame or Amp02? I would like to know this so I can narrow down what exactly is making me react this way.

 

[dabuffguy]

I'm confused. How is 4 Lipoflame and 9 Amp02 double dosing, but 2 Lipoflame and 5 or 6 Amp02 is not double dosing? "Double dosing" would imply that they have the same ingredients. Is that true? If I just take 9 Amp02 is that roughly the same as taking 2 Lipo and 5 or 6 Amp02?

What ingredients are different in Lipostim3 than in Lipoflame or Amp02? I would like to know this so I can narrow down what exactly is making me react this way.

Because 2 lipoflame and 5 amp02 is only a 1/2 dose of each.

They both have energy supps in them. Amplify02 is designed more for upper body training because it gives you big pumps, and lipoflame is designed for cardio and lower body training.

Using high amounts of stimulants is bad for you anyways, so just be careful.

 

[OMEGA]

thankyou DaBuff!

 

[superclock]

thankyou DaBuff!

What I'm hearing you say is that that Amp02 an d Lipoflame are exactly the same thing, with the exception of Amp02 containing Nitric Oxide. And I also get that too many stimulants are dangerous. I happen to have a high tolerance to stimulants.

But my question didn't get answered. What is the difference between Lipostim3 and Lipoflame in terms of ingredients? Part of the "art" of bodybuilding is really getting to know how your body responds to different chemical and mechanical stimuli. There is something in Lipostim3 that makes me crash very hard, and I would like to know what that stimulus is in order to avoid the same thing in the future.

Dabuff, you're an engineer - would you use a component from a vendor in one of your designs that didn't come with complete and accurate specs? That's all I'm asking. What I'm getting is nebulous, evasive "answers".

 

[access]

The ingredients in these two prodcuts bear nothing in common. I don't think there is even one ingredient in one that is in the other. If you go to the AGX web site they do list the ingredients as I have been researching them myself and in fact today received my first order.

 

[rediculus]

yah...why take someones word for it when you have the list of ingredients to compare in front of you...That's pretty...straight forward.

 

[superclock]

do not take 4 LIPOFLAME AND 4 Amplify02 at the same time! that double dosing!

At MOST take 2 LIPOFLAME with 5 or 6 Amplify02

As far And LipoStim3 I have no idea it might have to do with how you have been taking too much of the others

OK, what has confused me is the statement about double dosing. What is being double dosed? One of the ingredients?

 

[access]

Yes, the recommended dose was 2 lipoflame and 4 Amp02 when taking together but Omega has said you could take 5-6 Amp if you really had to but still with only 2 Lipo. Taking 4 Lipo and 9 Amp as you were is double the usual dose when taking both at the same time.

 

[OMEGA]

OK, what has confused me is the statement about double dosing. What is being double dosed? One of the ingredients?

too many

 

[superclock]

I have attached a comparison of AGX Sports product ingredients in a Word doc. As you can see, Lipoflame and Amp02 have a LOT in common. I have marked the Xanthines in red text. If you take into account that Xanthines are all from the same family (caffiene, theophylline, green tea extracts, etc - see definition below), the only ingredients that Amp02 has that are different from Lipoflame are the pump inducing ingredients like creatines and phosphate. Other than that, they are very, very similar, which is why, I assume, they are considered to be "double dosed" when taken together.

"xanthines (zan´thinz),
n.pl a family of chemicals that includes caffeine, theophylline, and theobromine, which stimulate the central nervous system, act on the kidneys to produce diuresis, stimulate cardiac muscle, and relax smooth muscle."

So as I said before, Lipoflame and Amp02 are virtually identical with the exception of Amp02 having pump-inducing additives.

Now I just need to figure out what in the Lipostim3 made my blood sugar dive...

 

[OMEGA]

they are NOT identical RATIOS are all different

Black tea might be doing it in LIPOSTIM3

 

[OMEGA]

NEVER take more then half a serving on Ampify02 with LIPOFLAME and never add ANYTHING ELSE

 

[superclock]

NEVER take more then half a serving on Ampify02 with LIPOFLAME and never add ANYTHING ELSE

Will heed your advice. And thanks for answering the question about the Black Tea in Lipostim3. Other than that, I just placed my re-re-re-re-order for Amp02. I love that stuff. Looks like my Lipoflame supply will last me a bit longer. Unfortunately, even with the good suggestions I tried by another member here in this thread, the Lipostim3 just doesn't agree with my body. Oh well

 

[OMEGA]

Switching the ratios on the Tea Next time.
Will let you know for sure when that happens Sir.

Also once you make an order ( the re-order) will give a discount.