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Older bro's and 1-AD
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blut wump
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I've run 1-AD and 4-AD. Low dose of each: 3 caps 1-AD and 6 caps 4-AD ethergels daily. I only ran it for three weeks and was glad when it ended. My nuts were shrinking and I was feeling like crap for about an hour after taking the dose.
I'm sure it gave me a boost for my workouts but I didn't get any noticable growth. I've had another pack lying around since January which might end up being flushed.
I'm sure it gave me a boost for my workouts but I didn't get any noticable growth. I've had another pack lying around since January which might end up being flushed.
Redshoteye
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Stay far far away. Took 900mg/ed for 3 weeks and figured I should get a blood test... my HDL was 15 and LDL 160.
rbtrout
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I've used both 1-AD and 4-AD and I was glad when it was done. I took the recommended dosage. The thing I noticed was that my lower back seemed to hurt when taking them. I've seemed to have this same problem with a couple of other PH's, as well. I got some small strength gains, but it wasn't worth the pain in the low back that I got. I've actually had better strength/size gains by eating and lifting hard. I just finished the 5X5 and had some incredible gains.....you can view my post.
marshabrady
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I'm 38.
I took all those "andro" products when they first appeared on the market (this was when I was completely natural). I'm suprised that you didn't try them when they hit the market they were so hyped. It was right after melatonin and DHEA came out. You must've missed the boat.
Well as a natural BB I tried them and more than anything it made me feel like crap. My bro who BB with me then described it as a "low grade steroid"- now that I'm juiced I'd completely agree but I laughed when he told me that at first- a "low grade steroid"-LOL. Because that is exactly what it is you get all the side effects but no gains at all. I suppose it did have a placebo effect but I gained more weight naturally taking creatine...
In fact I just finished reading Jose Canseco's bestselling book "Juiced" and he writes that he believes M. MacGuire purposefully left a bottle of andro in his locker for reporters to find sort of like a red herring to distract them from his tremendous size gains from juicing at the time. Myself, being natural back
then did truly want to believe that indeed Mac was all natural and that, in fact, andro helped him gain like 50 lb.'s- no way jose- Mac was juiced to the gills.
I took all those "andro" products when they first appeared on the market (this was when I was completely natural). I'm suprised that you didn't try them when they hit the market they were so hyped. It was right after melatonin and DHEA came out. You must've missed the boat.
Well as a natural BB I tried them and more than anything it made me feel like crap. My bro who BB with me then described it as a "low grade steroid"- now that I'm juiced I'd completely agree but I laughed when he told me that at first- a "low grade steroid"-LOL. Because that is exactly what it is you get all the side effects but no gains at all. I suppose it did have a placebo effect but I gained more weight naturally taking creatine...
In fact I just finished reading Jose Canseco's bestselling book "Juiced" and he writes that he believes M. MacGuire purposefully left a bottle of andro in his locker for reporters to find sort of like a red herring to distract them from his tremendous size gains from juicing at the time. Myself, being natural back
then did truly want to believe that indeed Mac was all natural and that, in fact, andro helped him gain like 50 lb.'s- no way jose- Mac was juiced to the gills.
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cobra108
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I took the andro stuff too like 6 years ago but it's just that I heard 1AD was real.of course gear is better but if there is a PH that works at least you know you're not going to get scammed, you're not going to get busted and you're not going to get sugar pills or something fake..BUT like I said that ONLY of the PH actually works. There are tons of testimonials on the net of guys saying 1-AD was fantastic. then again those tesimonials might be from the kid who works at the supplment store and get paid comisson.
marshabrady
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Exactly bro- testimonials from kids who work at supplement stores and get paid a commision- like Ronnie Coleman pushing BSN powders. LOL...
BTW you know how old Ronnie is right? He's 42 and about to win the Olympia again this year. He does still look like a little kid though (albeit a huge little kid).
BTW you know how old Ronnie is right? He's 42 and about to win the Olympia again this year. He does still look like a little kid though (albeit a huge little kid).
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Ianhockey91
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I did a cycle of it (however im only 23) and I did see gains, my bench shot up 25 lbs by the second week. I did have a mild reduction in sex drive but I countered that with 6-oxo.
cmdubs
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I'm only 26 but I've used it twice. Both times my weight went up 10-15 lbs, strong as an ox, but i felt like utter shit the entire time (no libido, tired all the time, aggresive). Plus I lost at least 75% of the weight both times. The first time I didn't do any pct and the second I probably didn't use enough 6-oxo. Or maybe it's just complete garbage.
blut wump
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Well, the weight shouldn't have been bloat since 1-AD/1-test is supposedly akin to trenbolone in nature.cmdubs said:
PCT consists of more than just running a pack of 6OXO: when you get bigger you have to eat bigger, at least for a while. You need to work at getting your test back up for a few weeks while your body settles in at the new weight. Growing the muscle is only half the process.
cmdubs
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Blut Wump said:
That could have been the problem. When I was on I ate like a horse, everything is site, TONS of calories. It wasn't hard either because I had an unbelievable appetite. Afterwards I was thinking I didn't need so many calories because I didn't have that extra boost from the 1AD so I went back to eating oatmeal, chicken breasts, etc.
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natty
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I gained about 15 pounds while on it, kept about half of that and was the strongest I've ever been while on 1AD. I'm 26 now, that was at 24. I never used gear though.
cmdubs
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cobra108 said:
Extreme lethargy was the main problem..felt like I wanted to sleep all day - common side effect from 1AD. Also had zero libido about 3 weeks in. 4AD is suppose to battle these sides but a couple weeks after taking that I got sore nips - freaked out and dumped the 4AD.
smoke67
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I ran 1-AD three times and was damn glad when I was off. The posts above about feeling like shit are the truth. As far as sex drive, there was none. Did'nt have a problem performing but the want was gone. I would put on 10-15 lbs in the first two weeks and my strength would go up. I would not take 1-AD again if you paid me.
Exact opposite for me. I've run several 1-ad,4ad cycles in the past. Great size and strength gains. I run the cycles about 4-5 wks (600mg day), take in about 3500-3800 calories a day and ran a solid PCT. The only problem I had was the strong back pumps. I just sucked it up and lifted though. This all between ages 36-39 yrs.
kethnaab
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ran 1-AD 3x (i'm 34 now)
never used any other PH or steroids of any form.
did 2x caps, 3x daily for no more than 30 days (3 bottles), so 600mg daily.
within a week, my lifts were through the roof, as were the pumps. I had to cut back on my volume because I would get too pumped, it would be painful.
however, the mass was solid. I ate clean, TONS of protein, moderate carbs.
nutsac didn't have problems, boners were there, as was the desire to mount.
tried going up to 800mg a few times, was a no-go. got too pissy and ornery. 600mg was perfect for me (~220 lbs). gains were almost laughable, makes me think perhaps my body reacts "well" to extra test in my system. had to be careful of the joints though, as my strength went through the roof so fast, I couldn't do "normal" wieght increases, I had to do rep increases. i.e. week 1, shoot for 5 reps with x weight. week 2, shoot for 6 reps with x+y weight, week 3, shoot for 7 reps with x+y+z weight, etc.
fucking wish 1-AD was still legal. I'd cycle 1 month on, 1 month off forever, if I had the $$$.
never used any other PH or steroids of any form.
did 2x caps, 3x daily for no more than 30 days (3 bottles), so 600mg daily.
within a week, my lifts were through the roof, as were the pumps. I had to cut back on my volume because I would get too pumped, it would be painful.
however, the mass was solid. I ate clean, TONS of protein, moderate carbs.
nutsac didn't have problems, boners were there, as was the desire to mount.
tried going up to 800mg a few times, was a no-go. got too pissy and ornery. 600mg was perfect for me (~220 lbs). gains were almost laughable, makes me think perhaps my body reacts "well" to extra test in my system. had to be careful of the joints though, as my strength went through the roof so fast, I couldn't do "normal" wieght increases, I had to do rep increases. i.e. week 1, shoot for 5 reps with x weight. week 2, shoot for 6 reps with x+y weight, week 3, shoot for 7 reps with x+y+z weight, etc.
fucking wish 1-AD was still legal. I'd cycle 1 month on, 1 month off forever, if I had the $$$.
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natty
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kethnaab said:
It didn't effect your hair?
lanky
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300mg/day of 1-ad make my hair fall out. i could not believe the amount of hair i was shedding after one month, scalp became very dry, tight, and sore to touch. i did live up to its claim of being very anabolic though,, as with other users i was very tired most of the day as well. i was about to fall asleep during my workout... My favorite was 19-nordiol though, made me feel good, actually made my armpits smell good for some reason( they actually had a pleasant odor-i know call me crazy but it was true), but the dose was at 900mg/day for about a month which came to over $100, no hairloss either, but scalp became greasy, no scalp irritation occured.
kethnaab
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i have no clue WTF you guys were doing wrong, but falling asleep in the middle of a workout??? tired most of the day...wow.
I had the opposite problem. shit kept me up at nights, woke up with raging hardons, pumps in the gym were downright painful.
funny how peeps can react so incredibly differently to something.
I had the opposite problem. shit kept me up at nights, woke up with raging hardons, pumps in the gym were downright painful.
funny how peeps can react so incredibly differently to something.
kethnaab
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nice and thick, just like my dick!
honestly, I had no problems with fatigue or on-cycle wood. after I was done for about 2 weeks, the idea of hot females was only marginally interesting to me, but about a week later, I was back to my old horny self.
Aggression difference between 600mg and 800mg was VERY noticeable.
Some acne on face as well. On my 3rd cycle, right before 1-AD got removed from the market, at about the middle of the 3rd week (had about 3 days left), I got a tingle in the nutsac. The Jewels were still normal sized, but I just felt a...."tingle"
I loved being on the stuff. I can only imagine what it would be like to be on "real gear". oy....
honestly, I had no problems with fatigue or on-cycle wood. after I was done for about 2 weeks, the idea of hot females was only marginally interesting to me, but about a week later, I was back to my old horny self.
Aggression difference between 600mg and 800mg was VERY noticeable.
Some acne on face as well. On my 3rd cycle, right before 1-AD got removed from the market, at about the middle of the 3rd week (had about 3 days left), I got a tingle in the nutsac. The Jewels were still normal sized, but I just felt a...."tingle"
I loved being on the stuff. I can only imagine what it would be like to be on "real gear". oy....
lanky
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I like 17a methyl dihydrotestosterone the best. @ approx 25mg PO TID. was amazing when i was doing sprinting and plyometric work, took about 5 days to notice an effect on my training but about 36 hours for the reproductive department . my back increased sebum production, no acne or increased subum production in the facial area, my excessive sweating problem ceased, but armpits still smelled rotten as usual, urine smelled like asparagus and tuna mixed together though 
, minimal hairloss if any. . I felt like i was 16 again in the "reproductive department". i still have a few grams left, saving it for when i get a new ladyfriend, or do scientific experiments on masculinization of talapia(its a fish)...or give it to earthworms to create a "tremors"(you know the movie with kevin bacon) like beast ....purree evill 
, minimal hairloss if any. . I felt like i was 16 again in the "reproductive department". i still have a few grams left, saving it for when i get a new ladyfriend, or do scientific experiments on masculinization of talapia(its a fish)...or give it to earthworms to create a "tremors"(you know the movie with kevin bacon) like beast ....purree evill 
This has been a great read. Lots of interesting reporting.
Given this product was (is) legal ... and it is within bounds to talk about sources ...
I see it advertised on the the net. Do you think these OTC products are the same as
what was used for great results before?
Given this product was (is) legal ... and it is within bounds to talk about sources ...
I see it advertised on the the net. Do you think these OTC products are the same as
what was used for great results before?
