Old School BB and Bloat

[THEEGAME2544]

Seeing as a lot of the old school bodybuilders like Arnold etc....used to actually increase their weight for competitions rather than diet down and lose weight like is mainly done today. My question is, what type of things were they using to keep water retention and bloat to a minimum while gaining weight? Especially using things like dbol.

 

[Dooley]

They drank this stuff called "Magic old-school bodybuilder anti-bloat juice" these days they call it the "Hollywood 24 Hour Diet"

 

[THEEGAME2544]

They drank this stuff called "Magic old-school bodybuilder anti-bloat juice" these days they call it the "Hollywood 24 Hour Diet"

Do I have to fly to Muscle Beach to pick some up? LOL

I certainly realize that their diet had most to do with it, but was wondering if they took something else. Nelson might have some input.

 

[Nelson Montana]

You're right. Basically, they'd bulk up and then eat clean and lose the water pre-contest. The main method they used was an old forgotten technique called "sweating."

Vince Gironda was the first guy to use kelp and desicatted thyroid to stimulate the thyroid and burn fat. Back then, BB's were expected to be bulky and Vince , though his use ofthee supps and his dieting methods was looked upon as "too defined." (!) Soon, Scott, Howorth, Draper, Mackaway. Nubret and all the other champs who followed Vince started using it.

When I was asked to put together a fat loss formula I went with the thyroid stimulating approach as opposed to the central nervous system approach and recommend kelp and desicatted thyroid (something you hardly see anymore) But I also suggested 7 keto, which wasn't around in the old days, but if it was, Vince would probably be the first guy to use it.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Oh yeah, one other trick they'd use to lose water -- dandelion and parsly soup. Yep. Dandelion and parsly are diuretics.

 

[MassiveG300]

One can only wonder what they did back then but some common items used (not stacked all together)in precontest prep were:
Winstrol tabs
Winstrol inject
Primobolan tab
Primobolan inject
Masteron
Anavar
Finaject
EQ
Test Suspension
Nolvadex
HCG
Triacana
T-3
Anadrol
Halotestin
(perhaps) oral turnibol
Less used
dianabol
all testosterone blends
Deca

So some of the compounds caused less bloat...we have an old school modern pro right now...Kevin Levrone he regains mass and cuts up to the show...

 

[Nelson Montana]

One can only wonder what they did back then but some common items used (not stacked all together)in precontest prep were:
Winstrol tabs
Winstrol inject
Primobolan tab
Primobolan inject
Masteron
Anavar
Finaject
EQ
Test Suspension
Nolvadex
HCG
Triacana
T-3
Anadrol
Halotestin
(perhaps) oral turnibol
Less used
dianabol
all testosterone blends
Deca

So some of the compounds caused less bloat...we have an old school modern pro right now...Kevin Levrone he regains mass and cuts up to the show...

Mmmm, not really. I thinkyou may be referring more to the "old timers" of the 80's. Nolva, HCG, Triacana,Halo and Fina were not around in the 60's or even the early 70's. And Deca is VERY bloating.

You're saying they used LESS dianabol? Sorry bro, but D-bol was the main drug until the early 80's. Often the ONLY drug.

 

[MassiveG300]

Mmmm, not really. I thinkyou may be referring more to the "old timers" of the 80's. Nolva, HCG, Triacana,Halo and Fina were not around in the 60's or even the early 70's. And Deca is VERY bloating.

You're saying they used LESS dianabol? Sorry bro, but D-bol was the main drug until the early 80's. Often the ONLY drug.

Forgot one :Nilevar anavars big brother.
Bill Pearl is on record testifying to that in the mid-late 60's.

Lemme check the product databses and I'll get back to you as you may be correct on a few. It may not matter "when" something was invented as it still would take a while to trickle down to the little population of bodybuilders at that time.

When I say LESS I mean LESS Frequently used for contest preparation..Sorry I should have clarified.

Although people then and even today use things like deca and dball anadrol and test for a contest based on what they have and are looking for an edge.

 

[THEEGAME2544]

Nice! I knew you'd dial in on this thread Nelson. Thanks I'm currently using the thyroid stimulating supplements that you reccommended right now and am impressed with the results so far. Taking 7-keto DHEA, Kelp, L-Tyrosine, Selenium, and Kelp. Also taking green tea, and cycling clen. My kelp intake right now is 550mg/day or 1 pill. Wanted suggestions on whether I should bump that up higher than 1 pill a day? I have a hard time believing that 1 pill is enough.....Let me know. Thanks.

 

[THEEGAME2544]

BUMP!

 

[Nelson Montana]

Nice! I knew you'd dial in on this thread Nelson. Thanks I'm currently using the thyroid stimulating supplements that you reccommended right now and am impressed with the results so far. Taking 7-keto DHEA, Kelp, L-Tyrosine, Selenium, and Kelp. Also taking green tea, and cycling clen. My kelp intake right now is 550mg/day or 1 pill. Wanted suggestions on whether I should bump that up higher than 1 pill a day? I have a hard time believing that 1 pill is enough.....Let me know. Thanks.

It depends on how much iodine the kelp contains. You don't want to go too much over 200% of the RDA. If anyone wants to know about getting all the ingredients including the desicatted thyroid, in one formula, let me know. The nice thing about this blend is the more you use it, the more effective it gets. If you stop using it, your thyroid won't be supressed. You'll just go back down to where it was before.