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Okay you runts :) ..how much meat do you eat per day?

Fonz

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I'm getting close to 2.5Kg/day of the 93% lean kind they
sell over at Whole Foods.

Its freaking my mom out....LOL

Fonz
 
adoniscomplex said:
Hey fonz,

I'll bet my girlfriend eats ALOT more "meat" than you!

haha!

Haha...very funny.

:mix: :mix: :mix:

Fonz
 
I was doing 3 pounds of sirloin a day awhile back but wanted to cut back on fat, I'm now down to about 1 pound a day (4-6 patties).
 
ill eat a steak and a can of tuna a day and switch between a pork or chicken product......sometimes its hard for me to get it all down cause i think the protein shakes i used to ingest before bed did a number on my digestive tract....i dont know.
 
not sure of the weight but for meats a day i eat,2 pork chops:2 chicken breasts:1 peace of steak and 1 haddock fish fillet and sometime stuff in a couple cans of tuna.
 
Fonz said:
I'm getting close to 2.5Kg/day of the 93% lean kind they
sell over at Whole Foods.

Its freaking my mom out....LOL

Fonz

Fonz @ 2.2 lbs per kilo thats 5.5 pounds per day...not only are ou freaking your mother out but you are freaking me out as well.
 
Japanese machine said:
right now im living off tuna, whey, and cottage cheese; i envy all you mofo's that eat beef and chicken daily.

After 2 years of eating 6 cans/day of tuna, I can't even go into
the tuna aisdle anymore wothout getting panic attacks...LOL

Fonz
 
Fonz said:


After 2 years of eating 6 cans/day of tuna, I can't even go into
the tuna aisdle anymore wothout getting panic attacks...LOL

Fonz

lol Fonz. ill be like that soon:

daily protein:

6 cans of tuna
5 servings whey
2 tubs cottage cheese.

about 250 g of protein.

carbs are.

potoatoes
oats
wheat bread.

The scholars diet, lol.
 
Well I try to hit 400 grams of protein per day. Six cans tuna, 1 1/2 pounds of beef, whey etc..

2 grams per day/per pound of bodyweight right? I weigh 240 so Im not even getting enough protein.
I better add in some more whey or something. What do you think?

480 grams of protein per day just sounds like ALOT.
Any advice?
 
I eat
1 lb of redmeat (93% lean)
1 lb of chicken
2 dozen eggs (4 yolks)
4 scoops problend
4 large Yams
3 cups of brown rice
3 cups of oatmeal
2 cups of Broccoli

That is what I consume daily, over the winter I eat a this plus anything else I want, This is about 5,000 cals. from all whole food, the problend I drink with my egg meals...
 
. Xcyter... Have you stopped growing? Not everyone eats 2x their weight. I have moved up to 300g a day and am close to 200 lb's at 5'9, and am growing quite well. When eating so much protein,I would just make sure to get 500+ carbs a day(maybe more... thats how many carbs I eat) to grow
 
This is my daily protein intake:

2 cans of Tuna
3 chicken breasts
1 steak (usually 10-12oz)
Whey protein
Milk
Cottage cheese

sometimes salmon
 
I do a protein shake for breakfast, 4 small meals with either a steak, a hamburger patty (1/2 99% ground turkey, 1/2 93% beef), a can of tuna, or half a chicken breast, a post-workout shake, and a pre-bed meal of cottage cheese or another steak.

I'm about 165# and I would say I get about 40 grams of protein at each meal--that's about....280 grams of protein per day. Probably overkill but I am starting a cycle so I'm sure my body will use a lot of it.

JC
 
Jon, thats about 1.7g per pound, sounds damn good to me. I'm at about 1.6g per pound, stopped growing at 1.35.
 
I have to have a lot of cals and protein to grow. I have battled my way over the last five years to 5'8" 200lbs. and 18 and a half inch arms. All I know is I bought a corvette about a year ago, a computer last week, and I am broke as a joke. I been eating more tuna and eggs because of this. I try to eat close to 400 grams of protein per day, mostly in the form of eggs, tuna, whey, cottage cheese, and chicken. Oh yeah, and a lot of burgers. Burgers are great to grow on. Anyway, I have to eat mucho calories to grow, so i cram whatever else I can in to get the scale to move. My bodyfat usually doesnt go over 12-13% in the off season, no matter what or how much I eat.-WULF
 
You're eating 5 1/2 lb of meat a day? Do you eat (or drink) anything else?

That's roughly 6600 cal; 441 gr/protein; 516 gr/fat; 0 carbs.
 
I remember seeing a thread on here right around when I first signed up that advocated taking a break from protein every now and then. I think the rationale was that when you saturate your organism with dietary protein your body becomes less efficient at using it to build muscle, and if you somewhat deprive your body of protein for like a week, when you reintroduce protein you can trigger new gains.

Anybody else read that and what are your feelings?

HC
 
Andy... how can you not like Cottage Cheese... ? I freakin' LOVE the shit... I really do... I like it just plain like that... straight up outta the bucket...
 
Well, I have to say... I was on a hardcore diet the last 2 years while up at school. I never took in less than 200 grams of protein in any given day. I came home this summer and have been eating out alot, I just decicded that I would take a break from the bb lifestyle. Turns out, I am making intense gains right now and the only downside is that I'm picking up more of a gut(which will be no problem to get rid of come my cutting diet) So, yes I am a firm believer that you need to shock your body, and with more than just a cheat day per week. Take some time off, keep training intense and when you come back, your diet will be that much more effective. I think I have been carb depriving myself for too long, I always thought I was too fat and as a result was keeping my carbs below 60 / day for an entire yr. Silly body dism0rph...
 
THeMaCHinE said:
You're eating 5 1/2 lb of meat a day? Do you eat (or drink) anything else?

That's roughly 6600 cal; 441 gr/protein; 516 gr/fat; 0 carbs.

2.5Kg/day

Nutrirional Profile: Per 100g = 150Kcal Fat=7g Protein=21g
Carbs=0g

Thats 3750Kcal, 175g Fat, and 525g Protein fro meat.

I just mix it with 2-3Kg of Hot Salsa mix/day and chug it down.

This diet(Don't laugh now..LOL) works like a charm to grow
on Fina. It really does. Fina is primarily an anti-catabolic, so
the more protein you eat, the more you grow.

I generally don't eat more than 150g carbs/day on Fina.

The more fat I eat, the better I feel.

I do however take:(Get ready for this..... :) )


1. 2g GLA/day
2. Phospho-Choline(2g),
3. Co-Q10(100mg)
4. ALA(2000mg)(Right before bed. Trust me you'll go to bed in a
flash if you do this)
5. 9mg Melatonin/day
6. 4g L-Tyrosine/day
7. 260mg DMAE/day
8. Biotin at 15mg/day(ALA depletes Biotin)
9. Guggulsterones at 100mg/day(Great for Acne)
10. Inositol at 6.5g/day
11. Vinpocetine at 30mgs/day
12. 5000mcg B-12/day
13. 2g Vit.C/day + 1500mg Quercetin
14. Arimidex at 1mg EOD
15. 1 Mega-Multi/day
16. Sometimes HCA(8-12g if carbing-up)
17. Acetyl-L-Carnitine(1g/day)(Just started. Ranger83rx suggested this for coignitive enhancement so I'm giving it a go.)

Was using Bromocriptine at 2.5mgs/day but, DMAE+Bromo
makes you VERY dizzy.(They are both dopaminergic)

There's more, but they are more specialized. (Nootropics)

The best thing I have ever tried for acne is Guggulsterones btw.
No shit. FAR, and I do mean FAR better than B-5 at high
dosages(10g/day). Don't get pimples at all, even on 150mg Fina/day.

Fonz
 
joncrane said:
I remember seeing a thread on here right around when I first signed up that advocated taking a break from protein every now and then. I think the rationale was that when you saturate your organism with dietary protein your body becomes less efficient at using it to build muscle, and if you somewhat deprive your body of protein for like a week, when you reintroduce protein you can trigger new gains.

Anybody else read that and what are your feelings?

HC

Yes, and IT WORKS!

It is also a good break for your digestive system and seems to allow you to come back with new vigour.
 
Fonz said:


2.5Kg/day

Nutrirional Profile: Per 100g = 150Kcal Fat=7g Protein=21g
Carbs=0g

Thats 3750Kcal, 175g Fat, and 525g Protein fro meat.

I just mix it with 2-3Kg of Hot Salsa mix/day and chug it down.

This diet(Don't laugh now..LOL) works like a charm to grow
on Fina. It really does. Fina is primarily an anti-catabolic, so
the more protein you eat, the more you grow.

I generally don't eat more than 150g carbs/day on Fina.

The more fat I eat, the better I feel.

I do however take:(Get ready for this..... :) )


1. 2g GLA/day
2. Phospho-Choline(2g),
3. Co-Q10(100mg)
4. ALA(2000mg)(Right before bed. Trust me you'll go to bed in a
flash if you do this)
5. 9mg Melatonin/day
6. 4g L-Tyrosine/day
7. 260mg DMAE/day
8. Biotin at 15mg/day(ALA depletes Biotin)
9. Guggulsterones at 100mg/day(Great for Acne)
10. Inositol at 6.5g/day
11. Vinpocetine at 30mgs/day
12. 5000mcg B-12/day
13. 2g Vit.C/day + 1500mg Quercetin
14. Arimidex at 1mg EOD
15. 1 Mega-Multi/day
16. Sometimes HCA(8-12g if carbing-up)
17. Acetyl-L-Carnitine(1g/day)(Just started. Ranger83rx suggested this for coignitive enhancement so I'm giving it a go.)

Was using Bromocriptine at 2.5mgs/day but, DMAE+Bromo
makes you VERY dizzy.(They are both dopaminergic)

There's more, but they are more specialized. (Nootropics)

The best thing I have ever tried for acne is Guggulsterones btw.
No shit. FAR, and I do mean FAR better than B-5 at high
dosages(10g/day). Don't get pimples at all, even on 150mg Fina/day.

Fonz

Very interesting -- I haven't messed with guggulsterones for years. I really may have to look (back) into that. (I'm getting acne like a 16-year old from this test/deca/adrol/winny combo...lol...). The guggul is safe at high dosages?

I also take ala before bed. I generally take a couple grams of inositol at the same time and my second multi of the day.

That's quite a laundry list of supps you have going there -- looks like a fair amount of sleep/recovery aids too. I'm surpised that you don't have fish oil in there...

I used http://www.ag.uiuc.edu/~food-lab/nat/startnat.cgi to run the 5 1/2 lb of meat. I just used a lean ground beef (not extra-lean as that would be more like a 97-98 percent grade of beef); I'm surprised our figures vary so greatly. Either way, that's a ton of beef!

I'm not laughing at the diet -- it's got to be a bitch to choke that much meat down everyday though. If you're getting good results, maybe I'll give it a try at a somewhat lower rate, maybe 2 1/2 lb to 3 lb a day; I probably get about a pound or so each day on average right now (all red).

Interesting posts.
 
THeMaCHinE said:


Very interesting -- I haven't messed with guggulsterones for years. I really may have to look (back) into that. (I'm getting acne like a 16-year old from this test/deca/adrol/winny combo...lol...). The guggul is safe at high dosages?

I also take ala before bed. I generally take a couple grams of inositol at the same time and my second multi of the day.

That's quite a laundry list of supps you have going there -- looks like a fair amount of sleep/recovery aids too. I'm surpised that you don't have fish oil in there...

I used http://www.ag.uiuc.edu/~food-lab/nat/startnat.cgi to run the 5 1/2 lb of meat. I just used a lean ground beef (not extra-lean as that would be more like a 97-98 percent grade of beef); I'm surprised our figures vary so greatly. Either way, that's a ton of beef!

I'm not laughing at the diet -- it's got to be a bitch to choke that much meat down everyday though. If you're getting good results, maybe I'll give it a try at a somewhat lower rate, maybe 2 1/2 lb to 3 lb a day; I probably get about a pound or so each day on average right now (all red).

Interesting posts.

Yes, Guggul is quite safe. You have to buy the Syntrax Guggulbolic though. Its the only one with the right potency.
Most Guggul products are made with solvents, and are
light yellow. The Syntrax product is brownish and does not use
solvents. Its only $15/90 30mg caps. 1 months supply basically.

And yes, I've always been big on getting a lot of rest. If I can't
sleep because of work(Happens), I use GHB in order to be
refreshed after only having slept 4 hours. DMAE also promotes
deep sleep quite well. Melatonin at 9+g/day also makes me
sleep like a log.
Fish oil? EEEEEEEKKKKKKK!! LOL I swear I always faint at the smell of it. Ever have a fish-oil cap break open in your stomach
and the oil rise up your throat? Yuk.
My mom also used to give me cod liver oil when I was 10,11
and DAMN....... I still have nightmares. :)
I use Borage Oil from the Vitamin Shoppe. 1300mg caps of
Omega 3-6-9 w/ 260mg GLA/cap.

Fonz
 
lol... yeah, I know fish oil can be nasty, but it really is the best omega-3 supplement out there; and we already get enough of our 6s without supplementation...

Thanks for the info about the guggul -- it's funny that you mentioned Syntrax, that's the kind I used waaay back (maybe 6+ years ago) when I was popping prohormones and Mass Quantities chrysin out of the gold ziplok pouch; I'll try that at 90 mg/day.

I'm big on rest too -- I may have to look into a few of the things on your laundry list...
 
scout420 said:
Not sure all I know is that I eat alot of fuckin Chicken.:p

Me too. "You can eat your dinner, eat your pork and beans. I eat more chicken any man ever seen" Jim Morrison
 
I go as low as 3 ibs a day sometimes when cutting. When trying to gain, I shoot for 5 ibs of meat every day.
 
You attribute your bodybuilding success to eating mega protein? I don't think so. It was your hard work in the gym that gave you your muscles. Your fast metabolism is burning off anything you eat: carbs - protein - fat. Who in the world ever started telling people if you eat 5 pounds of meat per day you will be Arnold? I can't do it - I get fat from it. You know why? Because at my age, my metabolism has slowed down and I can't parallell your workout intensity. I think bodybuilders are spending a fortune on the protein & supplement hype, and I believe they would achieve big muslces anyway due to their training intensity. Look around the gym- the skinny guys are not breaking a sweat, and the muscleheads are busting veins. Thats what's making them grow.
 
MusslCub said:
You attribute your bodybuilding success to eating mega protein? I don't think so. It was your hard work in the gym that gave you your muscles. Your fast metabolism is burning off anything you eat: carbs - protein - fat. Who in the world ever started telling people if you eat 5 pounds of meat per day you will be Arnold? I can't do it - I get fat from it. You know why? Because at my age, my metabolism has slowed down and I can't parallell your workout intensity. I think bodybuilders are spending a fortune on the protein & supplement hype, and I believe they would achieve big muslces anyway due to their training intensity. Look around the gym- the skinny guys are not breaking a sweat, and the muscleheads are busting veins. Thats what's making them grow.

You don't grow in the gym- you grow when you're home eating. What actually sperates the big guys from the little guys is simply how much food they consume.

All you workout for is to achieve micro tears in your muscles... after this is done any further work will simply delay recovery time and more possibly put you into a state of overtraining.

You go into the gym- do a few super intense sets- then get out and start eating so you can begin rebuilding your muscles.

Food is the key.
 
Just meat ? Maybe 1kg, but then you must add around 1kg of fish and another kilo of chicken/turkey...
 
Lift Chief- thanks for your input. I am 12 years older & my metabolism has naturally decreased by 50%. I did it, I ate big, and my body could not process that amount of protein/food each day. I was simply storing the excess, getting fat and feeling like puking, because my metabolism was not fast enuf to utilize / burn it off. I was so tired from the digestive process, I didnt feel like working out. I had to stop my cycle and re-think the whole program. I think the way we approach cycles + eating is too black+white. Cycle programs should be taught as a "ramp-up" process, not "dive-in" all or nothing (food as well as ass quantities). I have read many posts on here, and I dont see phrases like "gradually increase", "review your diet at intervals", "make adjustments", etc. I took the common advice and injected 500-1g aas per week, and strive for 4,500 calories a day, and failed. Body types, individual metabolisms, limits, age groups, health issues, family/career demands, etc. must be taken into consideration when designing the cycles & eating rules. 5 pounds of meat per day - my body rejects it. Food is a component of the grow muscle process; however, unrealistic quantities can destroy the cycle. Killed mine.
 
I have been eating almost 2 lbs of meat a day. I get it from salmon, chicken and steak mostly. I'm going carb free for a little while to drop this fat I gained over the summer before Istart a bulking cycle in a month.
 
brutus_98 said:
I probably eat 3/4 lb to a 1 lb (1.65-2.2kg) per day. That includes fish.

2.2 kilograms is like 5 pounds buddy.. i think u have ur euro/U.S. conversions all messed up
 
Fonz said:


2.5Kg/day

Nutrirional Profile: Per 100g = 150Kcal Fat=7g Protein=21g
Carbs=0g

Thats 3750Kcal, 175g Fat, and 525g Protein fro meat.

I just mix it with 2-3Kg of Hot Salsa mix/day and chug it down.

This diet(Don't laugh now..LOL) works like a charm to grow
on Fina. It really does. Fina is primarily an anti-catabolic, so
the more protein you eat, the more you grow.

I generally don't eat more than 150g carbs/day on Fina.

The more fat I eat, the better I feel.

I do however take:(Get ready for this..... :) )


1. 2g GLA/day
2. Phospho-Choline(2g),
3. Co-Q10(100mg)
4. ALA(2000mg)(Right before bed. Trust me you'll go to bed in a
flash if you do this)
5. 9mg Melatonin/day
6. 4g L-Tyrosine/day
7. 260mg DMAE/day
8. Biotin at 15mg/day(ALA depletes Biotin)
9. Guggulsterones at 100mg/day(Great for Acne)
10. Inositol at 6.5g/day
11. Vinpocetine at 30mgs/day
12. 5000mcg B-12/day
13. 2g Vit.C/day + 1500mg Quercetin
14. Arimidex at 1mg EOD
15. 1 Mega-Multi/day
16. Sometimes HCA(8-12g if carbing-up)
17. Acetyl-L-Carnitine(1g/day)(Just started. Ranger83rx suggested this for coignitive enhancement so I'm giving it a go.)

Was using Bromocriptine at 2.5mgs/day but, DMAE+Bromo
makes you VERY dizzy.(They are both dopaminergic)

There's more, but they are more specialized. (Nootropics)

The best thing I have ever tried for acne is Guggulsterones btw.
No shit. FAR, and I do mean FAR better than B-5 at high
dosages(10g/day). Don't get pimples at all, even on 150mg Fina/day.

Fonz



Jesus Christ Fonz How do you afford all the supplements? And 175grams of fat p/d that seems like alot for someone as lean as you are.
 
no meat or fish :) vegetarian (ovolacto)

Boatloads of eggs, soy, milk, cheese, cottage cheese . . .
Like my role model Bill Pearl. Oh did I mention eggs and cottage cheese (cuz I see mountains of them when I close my eyes :) )
 
I used to eat meat when I was younger. I thought that it was the way to get big. I had severe stomach problems from it, so I stopped eating it and I became much healthier. I gained a lot more muscle. I found that protein powder and egg whites worked best. Eggs makes me fart a lot, though.

Years later, I stopped eating all meat. I did this for ethical reasons, though. I also stopped eating the milk from BGH / BST cows and stopped eating eggs from battery-cage hens. I felt it was a cruel perversion of life.

I have never regretted not eating meat. I choose daily not to eat it and I like this way best. I don't think of it as a restriction; rather a choice. I could eat meat if I had to, but I don't want to.

I don't like the label "vegetarian" because people will make all sorts of presuppositions about that.
 
Lift Chief said:


You don't grow in the gym- you grow when you're home eating. What actually sperates the big guys from the little guys is simply how much food they consume.

All you workout for is to achieve micro tears in your muscles... after this is done any further work will simply delay recovery time and more possibly put you into a state of overtraining.

You go into the gym- do a few super intense sets- then get out and start eating so you can begin rebuilding your muscles.

Food is the key.

I would have to agree with that, althought I should add, clean calories and being very selective about what you eat is the key ALONG with the big calories. If one stays at or barely above maintenance calories, they will never see any signifigant muscle growth in shorter periods of time.

For those who say that much meat would make you fat... I ask what your diet looks like. After all, meat produces very little insulin, which is your primary fat storage hormone. Therefore, I find it very unlikely that 5 lbs of meat would make you fat. What exactally are you eating with it?
 
Don't forget protein during breakfast! I usually have a ham and cheese omelet (ham, eggs, what's not to like) or I'll fry up some breakfast sausages or lean ham (Kahn's little ham). Can't stand bacon - greasy strips of cardboard. As few carbs as possible during breakfast. On another subject, I usually eat a protein bar whether it's a workout day or not (Solid protein's s'mores bart). but I have to drink a cup of coffee just to gag it down; Am I doing more harm than good with that cup of coffee? Thanks!
 
About 2 pounds I would say. The rest comes from eggs, cottage cheese, shakes, etc.

BTW, Fonz where do you buy Guggulsterones?
 
I drink plenty of coffee and I've noticed no problem (since it's sympathomimetic and I like test -- I serves as a nice Beta agonist to prevent cortisol breakdowns). But Nelson and others have a beef against caffeine--I'm sure they'll be around soon to explain. . . I drink 4 strong 8oz cups a day btw (plus a gram test/wk -- so don't cut my ass off in traffic :) I'm liable to explode.)
 
majutsu, Thanks for the OK. I don't see anyone else at my gym hitting the coffee machine after a workout, but then their not eating one of those gawd awful bars! Will make sure to be a defensive driver around you except if we are racing to the nearest Dunkin Donuts! And BTW, decaf is for pussies (like I'd KNOW much about pussies). Thanks!
 
I eat about 2-3can of tuna a day and usually 1/2lbs of meat at dinner whatever it may be,and 1/4lb turkey sandwhich
 
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