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Ok! Rip this cycle apart and put it back together!

Victory

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I have my diet and workouts very well organized. Please rip this apart, I want no mistakes on this cycle.
 
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Oh I won't be on until tonight, so I will respond then. Thanks for any help. And as far as the clomid I have seen a few different dosages, so some advice would be helpful.
 
Hi bro`!!
By far too complex in my opinion !!
Keep it simple !! Whats your goal with this cycle ?? Are you about to enter a show and want to be hard in the end ?? Or just some mass and Quality ??
Too complex !!
Greetz
 
Please don't tell me this is your first cycle....

For the clomid do 3 weeks:
day 1: 300mg/day
day 2-7: 100mg/day
week 2: 50mg/day
week 3: 50mg/EOD

Dont taper the test, keep it constant, maybe even frontload it...
maybe frontload at 1250mg/week for the first 2 weeks and then run it at 750mg/week from weeks 3-10.
and get liquidex/arimidex instead of nolvadex, better estrogen blocker and liqduidex wont hinder your gains and you wont hold water...

EQ at 200mg is shit and wont help you... 400-600 is a good weekly dose, and you'll probably want to run that along with and AS long as you are running the test.... IE 10 weeks of test, 10 weeks of EQ... I'm not saying that's a rule of thumb, but it would be most beneficial that way...

YUM
 
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Willyumyum said:
Please don't tell me this is your first cycle....

For the clomid do 3 weeks:
day 1: 300mg/day
day 2-7: 100mg/day
week 2: 50mg/day
week 3: 50mg/EOD

Dont taper the test, keep it constant, maybe even frontload it...
maybe frontload at 1250mg/week for the first 2 weeks and then run it at 750mg/week from weeks 3-10.
and get liquidex/arimidex instead of nolvadex, better estrogen blocker and liqduidex wont hinder your gains and you wont hold water...

EQ at 200mg is shit and wont help you... 400-600 is a good weekly dose, and you'll probably want to run that along with and AS long as you are running the test.... IE 10 weeks of test, 10 weeks of EQ... I'm not saying that's a rule of thumb, but it would be most beneficial that way...

YUM

OK the test has been modified. The EQ is eod. And I will look into the liquidex, I know it's like .25 - .50 ed. Thanks.
 
Im pretty much with will. I say the eod on the eq which should be fine, but 8 weeks is a bit short unless you frontload it. Also, I would prolly pass on the hcg. Use clomid 17-21 days after last eq injection. And run liauidex from start of cycle all the way till the last dose of clomid.
 
come ot think of it I'd start the dbol in week one instead of where you have it... and drop the A-50, I dont like that drug at all...

YUM
 
I would start the HCG at week 8 because it will interfere will the clomid therapy.
Also I would throw in Liquidex .5 mg ed to eod instead of using the Nolvadex.
If you don't then run the Nolvadex an extra 2-3 weeks if the test esters have a long half life. Also do the Winny 100 mgs ed. You should also ramp the T3 up and down and run it for 30 days.
 
your running the clomid the same week you are running winny and only a week after the eq, it wont be able to do its job until the andorgen levels in your blood drop.
 
your running the clomid the same week you are running winny and only a week after the eq, it wont be able to do its job until the andorgen levels in your blood drop.

Ah, good observation Zyg. I didn't notice that.
 
djregs said:
i'm one of the guys who thinks newbies should start out easy. there is no need to go all out. i think you can only achieve a certain amount of gains and whether you can get 30lbs out of this cycle, i know people whop have gotten 30lbs out of deca alone. i like the idea of gh (can't afford it myself) but i think all the winny and anavar isn't too neccesary. i'd do the gh and test. i'll probably get flamed for this, but i think you'llk just be wasting your money.

dj-
na bro it is noted and money is no issue. I know what I want and I have spoke with many people who have attained good results. The science behind this shit will only take you so far, the rest is up to you and how your body responds to the products you put in it. And I hear all the time vets saying if I knew then what I know now I would have done this and that different. I have been around BB's for years and love the rush and the pump, but it's time for me to take it to the next level. So I say make it right the first time and keep what works, and adjust what doesn't. Thanks for all the replies and I would like to hear some more.
 
whats up bro, now lets see if u can figure out who i am!

i think 8 weeks of a-50's is too long, i got a lot better results off of a-50's for 5 weeks and dbol for 5 weeks and then run the winny after that. i would double that test level too, unless u have some reason for leaving it that low. i would run it at a gram a week while taking that growth. i know u got the insulin and are ready to take that, but dont forget the t3, take 25-50 mcg a day, it should help that growth work . just my opinion. hope it helps and thanks for all your help again.
 
Whats up bro

Hope you made it home ok. Been on another board for a while. Thanks for the input. I think I am going to stop the a50's for a bit and just run the growth and test then clean up about 2 months and come back on heavy before the show. It's hard coming off when Mr. Arizona is my new wo partner. He pushes fuckin hard...I love it though. Give me a call if you need any help. nice pic!!
 
yup back in old cold colorado, made it back fine. i will shoot u an email in the next couple days.

thanks again.
 
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