ok ok im getting annoyed

[xxsuprman22xx]

i need some information on dnp - i may throw it into the last part of mycycle.........but i cant find enough information on it. are there any faqs, or any good posts (thatnks for the couple needto, but need more) icant seem to find enough info on this product anywhere. i understand this is a very dangerous chemical and am not trying to throw my ass into it half way. if you have any websites, studies.....anything let me know....

BTW ive heard a lot about the dangers, please do not preach..... i probably will not even use dnp - i just hate the lack of info on it - maybe i just suck at research

 

[xxsuprman22xx]

ive found the exact same damn article on 10+ sites

 

[GUARDIAN]

ive found the exact same damn article on 10+ sites

what is the article u keep finding? maybe i can help find some more info for ya if i know what u already have.

 

[xxsuprman22xx]

what is the article u keep finding? maybe i can help find some more info for ya if i know what u already have.

starts out like this "DNP (2,4-Dinitrophenol), an industrial chemical with various applications, has gained steady popularity as a fat loss tool. Boasting an astounding 50% increase in metabolic rate, it is able to contribute to reported fat losses of 10-12 pounds in 8 days of use. " theres one at http://www.mesomorphosis.com/steroid-profiles/dnp.htm i swear ive seen this article over 10 times and then the others ive seen are just giving me the same information just worded differently.....lol is this everything to know on dnp

btw thanks for the help bro

 

[GUARDIAN]

starts out like this "DNP (2,4-Dinitrophenol), an industrial chemical with various applications, has gained steady popularity as a fat loss tool. Boasting an astounding 50% increase in metabolic rate, it is able to contribute to reported fat losses of 10-12 pounds in 8 days of use. " theres one at http://www.mesomorphosis.com/steroid-profiles/dnp.htm i swear ive seen this article over 10 times and then the others ive seen are just giving me the same information just worded differently.....lol is this everything to know on dnp

btw thanks for the help bro

on the search mission! i have never used the stuff. i guess i was never interested so i never bothered to look for info.

 

[GUARDIAN]

Here is one from George himself:

Dear friend and fellow athlete,

George Spellwin's 7-day DNP Fat Loss Inferno Cycle

Boasting an astounding 50% increase in metabolic rate, DNP is the most effective fat burner that bodybuilders are using today. For comparison purposes, the ECA stack, which is also a highly effective fat loss tool, produces only a 3% increase in metabolic rate. Athletes reporting fat losses of 10-12 pounds in only 8 days of use have further added to the DNP mystique. However, DNP is also the deadliest substance used in bodybuilding today - so deadly, that it has been implicated in the death of several athletes.

In this issue of Elite Fitness News, I'll tell you more about DNP. You'll learn about the 7-day DNP Fat Loss Inferno Cycle, the precautions you should take if you decide to try it, and I'll give you the reasons why you should avoid DNP in favor of other diet drugs and supplements that are not nearly so dangerous. I'll also let you know about the safest legal fat burner around today and how it can help you maximize your bodybuilding goals.

DNP or 2,4-Dinitrophenol, (Pronounced: die ni'tro fe' nolz) is an industrial chemical with various applications such as making dyes, wood preservatives, explosives, insect control substances, other chemicals, and as a photographic developer. Sold under several trade names, including Caswell No. 392, Sulfo Black B, and Nitro Kleenup, DNP has recently gained steady popularity as a fat loss tool.

DNP was used in diet pills in the 1930s, but was banned for this use in 1938. Classified as an "uncoupler of oxidative phosphorylation," medically, DNP is quite dangerous. You see, the body has no negative feedback system that may deal with overdoses. Specifically, there is no upper limit to the increase in body temperature that may be obtained with DNP's use.

The following article combines several theories to form what is perhaps the single best way to cycle DNP for maximum fat-loss benefits. As I mentioned earlier, DNP can be deadly and I would never use it myself nor would I ever recommend that anyone ingest it. The casual use of DNP for dieting is ridiculous. Hearing reports of athletes using DNP before trying a Cyclical Ketogenic Diet, legal diet supplements, and medically supervised weight loss drugs is crazy. Here are a few links to effective weight loss supplements, drugs, and strategies that are much safer than DNP and are certainly a much better alternative for all but the most elite bodybuilders. That said, if an athlete makes the personal decision to use DNP, it is possible to take precautions to maximize its benefits and minimize the potential risks.

The 7-day DNP Fat Loss Inferno Cycle:

The 7-day DNP Fat Loss Inferno Cycle involves a moderate to high dosage of DNP for fat burning. The DNP Fat Loss Inferno involves a 7-day on, 7-day off approach to using DNP and has four distinct phases. Most athletes using DNP follow this type of cycle. The phases are as follows:

Phase 1: The 3-day Carb-Depletion Phase.

Phase 2: The 1-day Thyroxine (T3) Re-normalization Phase.

Phase 3: The 14-day DNP Inferno Phase.

Phase 4: The 2-day Post-DNP Phase.
Phase 1. The 3-day Carb-Depletion Phase

Phase One has a three-day duration and begins four days preceding the ingestion of DNP. The purpose of this phase is to deplete muscle-glycogen content by restricting carbohydrates. This is achieved through a ketogenic style diet.

Kcals should be restricted to 10-12 times bodyweight in lbs. And carbohydrates should be restricted to less than 60g/day. Protein is consumed at 1 gram per pound of bodyweight or higher and the remaining dietary calories should come from fat.


This phase lasts exactly 3 days, and will reduce muscle-glycogen levels so that the body is forced to rely on fat as fuel more readily when you start your DNP cycle.


Phase 2 The 1-day Thyroxine (T3) Re-normalization Phase

This is a new concept for DNP dieting. During the past three days, the athlete has restricted carbohydrates and as a direct consequence T4-T3 conversion is slowed down resulting in reduced T3 levels. This is bad for the DNP phase, as you need enough active T3 to last throughout the entire 7-day-On DNP phase.
Day four of the DNP cycle involves a mega-carbohydrate meal at mid-afternoon (4-6PM) designed to create a massive insulin spike and re-normalize T4-T3. This concept has been extrapolated from ketogenic diets and has been shown to dramatically increase serum concentrations of T3.

Day 4 involves Keto eating until the Mega-carb meal. Then in the late afternoon, at least circa 250g of carbohydrates must be consumed to create an insulin spike. Any sugar (fructose, sucrose, maltose etc.) is fair game. Fructose in particular is good because it primarily re-fills liver glycogen which is directly involved in T4-T3 conversion. (Empty liver glycogen signals the thyroid to decrease T4-T3 conversion).

As a side-note, a 250g carb-meal after three days of Keto dieting creates a more pronounced insulin spike than would a 250g carb-meal after three days of normal eating.

Kcals during Phase 2 should be kept at 15X Bodyweight in lbs. Macro-nutrient break-downs can be calculated by the athlete. The only carb intake on day 4 should be the 250g carb-meal.

Phase 3 The 14-day DNP Phase

The first two days of actual DNP consumption are the most important to follow correctly. During Days 5 and 6 of the actual DNP portion of the cycle, it must be determined if the athlete will have an allergic reaction to DNP -- some will.

Day 5: 200 mg of DNP is ingested

Day 6: 200 mg of DNP is ingested

At this point the dieter should be able to assess if an allergic reaction has occurred. A DNP-stimulated allergic reaction will lead to swelling in as little as 1 to 2 days time. Approximately 10% of athletes will have such a reaction. The unfortunate few who experience this type of a reaction must terminate the cycle immediately. Benadryl or Ketotifen (Anti-histamines) can be used to treat mild symptoms. Obviously a doctor should be consulted should the symptoms prove more severe.

Day 3: Dieters making it to day 7 of the cycle have the option of increasing their dosage. The normal dosage for beginners is 400mg DNP/day. Even an amount this small should provide outstanding results. A word of caution. DO NOT TAKE MORE, if you are not experienced with DNP-use. More advanced users may chose to go higher based on past experience.

The 400mg/day dosage is maintained from Day 8 through Day 14 (Exactly 7 days). The last dose is taken on Day 14.


Supplementation and Nutritional Protocol for a DNP cycle:


1. An ECA stack is beneficial while on a DNP cycle as it as it acts as an anorectant. DNP raises Neuro-peptide Y levels in the brain, which is directly linked to increased hunger. Consuming 75-100mg total of ephedrine alkaloids/day should be sufficient to suppress appetite. PPA (Nor-ephedrine) should NOT be used as it enhances lethargy when combined with DNP.


2. Anti-oxidants. Due to the DNP-induced rapid combustion of fats, free-radical production skyrockets up-wards. To combat this, anti-oxidants must be used. Anti-oxidants are the single most important supplement to take on a DNP cycle.


a) Fat-soluble Anti-O: Vitamin E: 1000mgs/day

b) Water-soluble Anti-O: Vitamin C: 2-3g/day

c) Alpha Lipoic acid: 600-1000mgs/day

Dual-anti-oxidant: BOTH fat & water-soluble actually re-cycles other anti-oxidants.


3. Glycerol: Although optional, glycerol is often consumed at 15ml's 3X/day. Glycerol increases hydration for many athletes.
No additional supplements are really required other than these three. All the rest you have read in various DNP articles are more for peace of mind than improved functionality. I consider them overkill -- although they can enhance results.


4. Water: Not a supplement, but an absolute necessity.
DNP causes sweating and can be incredibly dehydrating. Dehydration is the NUMBER ONE cause of most DNP problems and deaths. Excessive dehydration results in over-heating. Dieters who do not replenish fluids properly while on a DNP cycle can and do die. The consensus among athletes is that at least two gallons of water must be consumed daily.


5. EAT FRUIT while on your DNP cycle.
Fruit for some reason has been found to greatly reduce the lethargy associated with a DNP cycle. It also has a high water content, therefore it helps to keep the dieter hydrated. Watermelon is an obvious recommendation.


6. Dietary intake: There are several schools of thought on this matter, but sticking to the old standard always works.

Kcals should be kept anywhere from 10-15X Bodyweight in lbs. Macro-nutrient break-downs should be kept at around 20% fat, 30% protein and 50% carbs. (Changing the ratios in favor of more carbs and protein w/ less fat will result in a more fat loss but nothing special. Also, remember that more carbohydrates means more heat).

Take for example the 220 lb (100 kg) bodybuilder. He would consume anywhere from 2200 to 3300 Kcal per day (Depending on his appetite control).

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What not to do on a DNP cycle for maximizing fat loss and improving safty.
How to use DNP's Half life to continue burning fat for 7 more days.
Phase 4 of The DNP Fat Loss Inferno Cycle -- The 2-day Post-DNP phase.
How to maximize recovery.
How to bring muscle glycogen levels back to normal.
The best liquid for replinishing elecrtolytes on a DNP cycle.
DNP - regular vs. crystalline DNP.
Supplementation for Optimizing DNP's effectiveness and saftey
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What are dinitrophenols?
(Pronounced die ni'tro fe' nolz)
Dinitrophenols are a class of manufactured chemicals that do not occur naturally in the environment. There are six different dinitrophenols.
The most commercially important dinitrophenol, 2,4-dinitrophenol (DNP), is a yellow solid with no smell. It is used in making dyes, wood preservatives, explosives, insect control substances, and other chemicals, and as a photographic developer.
DNP DOES SMELL-VERY STRONG- KIND OF LIKE CHERRY WOOD
It was used in diet pills in the 1930s but was banned for this use in 1938. It may be sold under several trade names, including Caswell No. 392, Sulfo Black B, and Nitro Kleenup. Use of trade names is for identification only and does not imply endorsement by the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, the Public Health Service, or the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.
What happens to dinitrophenols when they enter the environment?
DNP enters the air, water, and soil during its manufacture and use.
It may be formed from reaction of other chemicals in the air.
DNP may also enter the environment through landfill and storage tank leaks, or accidental spills during manufacture or transport.
It dissolves slightly in water, and does not easily evaporate to air.
It can be broken down slowly in water and soil by small organisms or by reacting with other chemicals.
DNP sticks to particles in water, which will cause it to eventually settle to the bottom sediment.
DNP also sticks to some types of soil particles, which may prevent it from moving very deep into the soil with rainwater.
DNP probably does not build up significantly in fish.
How might I be exposed to dinitrophenols?
Breathing contaminated workplace air where it is manufactured or used.
Breathing contaminated air from DNP-containing waste sites, waste incineration, or automobile exhaust.
Touching contaminated soil or water near DNP-containing waste sites.
Ingesting contaminated soil or water near DNP-containing waste sites.
DONT FORGET ENCAPUSLATING AND CONSUMING IT

How can dinitrophenols affect my health?
Most of the information on the health effects of dinitrophenols comes from old studies of patients who were prescribed diet pills containing dinitrophenol before it was banned.
Deaths have occurred in people who ingested 3-46 milligrams of dinitrophenols per kilogram of body weight per day (3-46 mg/kg/day) for short periods, or 1-4 mg/kg/day for long periods. WHILE THIS MAY BE TRUE THEY DIED FROM DEHYDRATION, HYPERTHERMIA, AND STARVATION/EXTREME LOW BLOOD SUGAR, ETC..- ALL OF WHICH CAN BE AVOIDED WITH PROPER NUTRITION, SUPPLEMENTS AND EATING- DONT FORGET THOSE CARBS. Also, people who breathed air containing 40 mg dinitrophenols per cubic meter of air (40 mg/m3) for long periods have died.
The amount of dinitrophenols ingested that causes harmful effects varies among people. Increased basal metabolic rate (the rate that you use energy at complete rest)- MAKES YOU LOSE FAT, increased sweating- DEHYDRATES YOU- WHY YOU TAKE GLYCEROL AND 2 GALLONS OF WATER MIN., a feeling of warmth, weight loss-WHY MOST PEOPLE TAKE IT, and increased heart rate-THIS IS NOT TRUE-EXCEPT IN CASES WHERE LOW BLOOD SUGAR RESULTS IN THE RELEASE OF GLUCAGON,ETC.., breathing rate-INCREASED RESPIRATION IS A NORMAL FUNCTION OF INCREASED METABOLISM, and body temperature have been observed in people who swallowed as little as 1 mg/kg/day or as much as 46 mg/kg/day for short or long periods of time.
Ingesting 2-4 mg/kg/day DNP for short or long periods has caused cataracts in some people-EIGHT CASES-THEY HAVE EIGHT ANECDOTAL CASES- WHICH REMARKABLY, WHEN COMPARED TO THE DNP INGESTING POPULATION (100,000 AT THE TIME), IS THE SAME AS AMONG THE GENERAL POPULATION-STILL WE TAKE EXTRA ANTIOXIDENTS- JUST IN CASE, while ingesting 1-4 mg/kg/day for short or long periods has caused skin rashes and decreases in white blood cells.-I HAVE SEEN NO RESEARCH THAT POINTS THIS OUT BUT SKIN RASHES WERE PROBABLY DUE TO LESS FATTY ACIDS FOR SKIN MAINTANANCE AND SOME ALLERGIC REACTIONS
How likely are dinitrophenols to cause cancer?
The Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS), the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), and the EPA have not classified dinitrophenols for carcinogenicity. FOR GOOD REASON DNP HAS BEEN SHOWN TO NOT BE CARCINOGENIC
There are no studies available in people or animals on the carcinogenic effects of dinitrophenols.
WELL AREN'T WE LITTLE LIARS- THERE HAVE BEEN CANCER STUDIES IN ANIMALS 6 MONTHS AT HIGH EXPOSURE LEVELS IN MICE- NO CARCINOMAS
Is there a medical test to show whether I've been exposed to dinitrophenols?
Tests are available that measure the amount of DNPs or their breakdown products in blood, urine, and samples of tissue from the body. However, these tests may require special equipment and may not be available in your doctor's office.
Has the federal government made recommendations to protect human health?
The EPA recommends that not more than 70 parts of dinitrophenols per billion parts of water (70 ppb) be present in lakes or streams used for swimming.
The EPA lists DNPs as hazardous air pollutants (HAP) under the Clean Air Act. The EPA also requires that discharges or spills into the environment of 10 pounds or more be reported.
SOME EXTRA POINTS DNP IS ANTI PROTEOLYTIC- MUSCLE SPARING-
DNP IS STILL DANGEROUS IF TAKEN INCORRECTLY AND/OR WITHOUT THE PROPER PREPARATIONS. ITS USE IS NOT AN UNDERTAKING THAT SHOULD BE ENTERED INTO WITHOUT CONSIDERABLE KNOWLEDGE AND RESEARCH- KNOWLEDGE IS POWER.
heres a short list of supplements
feel free to add any other antioxidents
200mg alpha lipoic acid 3x a day with meals
1200-1500mg magnesium in 2-3 divided doses.
2-3000mg vitamin C.
1200IU of vitamin E
200mcg of selenium.
1000-2000mg of calcium (can’t take it with the magnesium, though. Take it before bed)
Melatonin if you can’t sleep and it is also one of the best and cheapest anti-oxidants.
50mg of zinc a day
one iron tab as hemoglobin is a protein as well.
A potassium gluconate tab or two a day
Taurine at 3g a day.
Glutamine at 15g-20g a day .
1 table spoon glycerol 3 x a day
at least 2 gallons of water
a fan to point at your head while sleeping- or at work- basically anytime you can point a fan at you
personally I take a lot of supplements
i usually exceed those dosages and I take other antioxidents
including about
500mg grapeseed extract
300mg cranberry extract
600-900mg of green tea
and a good mulit vitamin-twinlab dualtabs
BTW- EC+1g of tyrosine 3x per day and 20mg of yohimbine topically 2x per day- for added energy and fatburning effects
DNP WHY IS THE LD-50 SO LOW
all of the mortality studies that have been done with dnp have been done on animals. LD50 is the dose that is considered to be lethal to 50% of the population. However, when one looks at the studies and the inferences that people, including duchaine, have made, you will find that such inferences are completely erroneous. They have based their dosing and life threatening parameters of DNP ingestion on studies done on organisms incapable of changing their behaviour to cope with the effects of DNP.
Here is some of the reasons why.
can you tell a rat he needs to triple or quadruple his water consumption?
even if the water is available will a rat force himself to drink it? like a human could
do rats take glycerol?
do they take antioxidents?
do they have fans to point at their heads?
can they lower the dosage if they feel its too strong for them?
can they turn up the AC?
can you see some of the fallacies of such studies-if not I will be sure to continue.


PEACE

 

[GUARDIAN]

Since some guys have been playing around and disrespecting DNP and then griping to the forums about the painful results, we need to make this VERY specific and VERY correct so that people won't keep jumping for DNP out of curiosity, or without the willpower they need to operate this respondibly. So here are my experienced guidelines to using it the RIGHT way.

FIRST GUIDLINE: Dosing. Use ONLY 200mg a day for the first four days. I don't care that you don't "feel" anything yet and you wanna bump it up. DNP accumulates in the body, and not "feeling" something means NOTHING. It's there, and it's working (the effect on metabolism begins within two hours of the first dose!). Four days will let you test your tolerance: do you have an allergy? Does it give you a rash? etc.
Only after those four days do you bump it up, by 200mg a day. The average dose is 400-600/day, and more than that gets a little severe. A full gram is the highest dose I've heard anyone use. I've used that much, and it's hell. I like to stay around 600 a day, which is HOT but safe and effective. Take caps even hours apart through the day, ending about 4-5 PM.

SECOND GUIDLINE...How to eat on DNP. This is purely personal experience, because some guys like to carb-deplete *before* using DNP (then eat carbs as usual while on), and other guys like a low-carb approach throughout. Both are fine. Using DNP is the only time that fructose is a desireable cutting carb, because it keeps the liver replentished. That reduces lethargy and spares muscle.
Be aware that eating high-carb foods WILL increase the heat sensation within an hour, and last about 2 hours. That means don't eat carbs before bed unless you want those night sweats to be even WORSE.
Personally, I ate whatever the hell I wanted! IHOP, chinese, fajitas...Yes, I burned hot, but I still lost 1.5 pounds every 2 days. Keep protein HIGH for muscles' sake, and try it yourself.

Foods I suggest including:
Blueberry yogurt. Blueberries are excellent antioxidants, and yogurt cultures help with digestive function, gas, and stool consistency (disgustingly soft stools are common during DNP).
Oregano-based foods. Oregano is perhaps one of the most potent antioxidants around,a nd one spoonful counts as a vegetable serving. See this article
Pineapple - I've found that pineapple helps alleviate those "DNP Blues". The fructose helps, and pineapple enzymes aid in protein digestion.
V8 - one 12-ounce can supplies six servings of veggies, concentrated as an excellent source of antioxidants, lycopene, and recovery of electrolytes.
Oatmeal - high-fiber foods are necessary. You'll find out why around, oh, day 5 or so. Trust me.


THIRD GUIDELINE...Supplements and DNP. I suggest:
ECA - DNP is not a stimulant. To keep energy high and aid in fat loss, use an ECA. Some advisors suggest that regular ephedrine is preferable to norephedrine because of the more direct "hit" of energy.
Prohormones - perfectly fine on DNP. I used 1-AD just to help keep strength and muscle up, and it worked fine. No problems here. You won't GROW muscle on DNP, but it'll help with strength and protection.
Obvious stuff - multivitamin, ZMA, etc.
Biotest PowerDrive - No, I'm not pimping Biotest. But PowerDrive is an excellent pre-workout mixture that actually works. Plus it's low-carb (only 15 calories total), so it won't cause carb-heat in the middle of your workout.

Antioxidants - I'm giving my own personal list, and why I use them:
Alpha Lipoic Acid - aids in fat management and blood sugar, and an excellent antioxidant.
Grape seed extract
Syntrax Radox
Green Tea
Inositol - mood enhancement, antioxidant, and muscle support. 1 gram/3x day
Ellagic acid - protects cell DNA/RNA from damage by free radicals, and may even atack cancerous cells. 400mg/twice a day
Fruit antioxidants - beyond-a-century's powder of high-potency natural fruit anti's. 1 gram, 2-3x day.
Trimethylglyceine - antioxidant, helps move fat and blood lipids into the liver and out of the body. 500mg, 2x day.
Vitamins E and C

Supplements NOT to use:
Any medications that suppress energy. No allergy meds, antidepressants, muscle relaxers, or beta blockers. DNP will have you low as it is; don't worsen your body's energy by taking something that suppresses you further.

DRUGS - Sheesh, you'd think I wouldn't have to mention this, but two idiots in particular (right here on this forum) recently affirmed that some people still just don't get it. NO alcohol (not even "moderate"), NO ecstasy, NO GHB, etc. If you don't have the willpower to forego these habits, DNP is not for you.

Syntrax Swole - a personal discovery. I tried Swole while on DNP...once. Two hours of hell, feeling inside-out.

FOURTH GUIDELINE...working out on DNP. Keep lifting short, 30-40 minutes. DNP works very well, causing your body to use 150% or more the calories per action you'd normally use. That means DON'T try to repeat your usual workouts. Drop to moderate weights, 8-12 reps, not to failure, and with plenty of walking rest between sets. You are NOT going to grow muscle on DNP, so don't use your usual heavy routine. Since DNP can cause light-headedness and heat dizzyness, you have my permission to skip squats in favor of leg presses this time.

Cardio is a controversial one. My advice - do NOT do cardio on high doses of DNP (600mg or more). It's dangerous and counterproductive. Below that amount, some cardio is fine, but keep it to 20 minutes and not at full-gallop. Remember, DNP will drain water from your quickly, causing you to leech out minerals, vitamins, and salts. Don't overdo it.

During exercise, consume at least 1 liter of water per 30 minutes of work, whether you're thirsty or not. DNP is evil in the way it blunts thirst, while at the same time doing the cruel trick of bloating your body with water WHILE dehydrating you from water in your organs. MAKE yourself drink. Always folllow DNP exercise with antioxidants, carbs, and this is a good time to use your multivitamin.

Don't feel embarrassed about poor workouts. Just this morjning I did a workout with a whopping nine sets (wimp!) before calling it quits. Listen to your body, and let it tell you when enough's enough; don't guage workouts by what you *usually* can do otherwise

 

[xxsuprman22xx]

haha i guess i do just suck at searching ....thanks for the help bro, this is some serious shit and am not taking it lightly

 

[xxsuprman22xx]

haha i guess i do just suck at searching ....thanks for the help bro, this is some serious shit and am not taking it lightly

that last one gave a lot of good info....who wrote it?

sounds like a magic pill lol ihop and losing nearly a lb a day

again 8and20 thanks for the help

 

[xxsuprman22xx]

that last one gave a lot of good info....who wrote it?

sounds like a magic pill lol ihop and losing nearly a lb a day

again 8and20 thanks for the help

found it ....guess im not completly helpless with the search

 

[GUARDIAN]

yep the plat search feature is invaluable at times!

 

[chazk]

google dnp deaths for some more reading

 

[xxsuprman22xx]

Alright its been decided....Going to run DNP

Will be doing it very carefully

will be posting a log

will start in april


Thanks for reads 8and20

Puttin my order in NOW

IF YOUR GOING TO PREACH OR GIVE ME SHIT DONT EVEN BOTHER REPLYIN TO THIS - IKNOW ITS A SERIOUS DRUG AND IM NOT TAKING IT LIGHTLY!

 

[GUARDIAN]

http://www.expertpcsupport.com/foru...p-dinitrophenol-absolutely-insane-575096.html

 

[xxsuprman22xx]

http://www.expertpcsupport.com/foru...p-dinitrophenol-absolutely-insane-575096.html

thanks bro - i'm having a hard time deciding how long i want to run this...probably not long as my bf is not high at all these days

 

[xxsuprman22xx]

OHHH the power of platinum......found a lot of good posts on dnp - dinitrophenol - before a select few started misusing and everybody began associating it with death. Shit Alcohol can kill me at an unreasonable dose....that being said - i think dnp - dinitrophenol - can be a very effective weapon to combating that last bit of fat that never seems to go away. However should only be used once everything else fails...If your just lazy, dont do any cardio, and eat like crap - its not for you

I am excited and will be posting pics in upcoming months