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Im watching Nancy Grace and she has explained that he recieved 1 million dollars for the advance on his book and that he used the money to pay off his 3.5 million home in Miami. She also said 600k was put in a trust fund for his childeren. Unreal
 
Creepusmaximus said:
At this point I think it's funny.
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It is not funny and thankfully, the vast majority of people don't find it funny either. I am still sick thinking about all those African-American college kids jumping around celebrting as a killer was found not guilty. Luckily, most of those who celebrated at the time have also come out and said that in hindsight, they got carried away by emotions and regretted it.

I red Christopher Darden's book and his point that someday, OJ will will answer to the ultimate judge where the only witnesses will be Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman is something that Simpson will do well to remember.
 
The police do not have to plant evidence against a man who is actually guilty. If the man was truly guilty then why was EDTA found in blood samples at the crime scene??? I was watching Nancy Grace last night myself and I find her to be totally judgemental. If OJ where white and Nicole / Ron were black would so many people be this judgemental about the situation. I doubt that seriously. So as far as answering to the higher judge, I would say the same thing about police forces who commonly abuse people , use exessive force, plant evidence and kill people due to racial bias every day.

Falklands said:
It is not funny and thankfully, the vast majority of people don't find it funny either. I am still sick thinking about all those African-American college kids jumping around celebrting as a killer was found not guilty. Luckily, most of those who celebrated at the time have also come out and said that in hindsight, they got carried away by emotions and regretted it.

I red Christopher Darden's book and his point that someday, OJ will will answer to the ultimate judge where the only witnesses will be Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman is something that Simpson will do well to remember.
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gjohnson5 said:
The police do not have to plant evidence against a man who is actually guilty. If the man was truly guilty then why was EDTA found in blood samples at the crime scene??? I was watching Nancy Grace last night myself and I find her to be totally judgemental. If OJ where white and Nicole / Ron were black would so many people be this judgemental about the situation. I doubt that seriously. So as far as answering to the higher judge, I would say the same thing about police forces who commonly abuse people , use exessive force, plant evidence and kill people due to racial bias every day.
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EDTA is a common preservative found in food as well as in laboratory applications.

It's kinda like chalk in the weight room... if you are a chalk-friendly gym, a little of it is going to show up in the bathroom, the front desk, hell... probably even the parking lot.
 
EDTA is used in blood sampling to extract DNA information. The police took blood from OJ (as we mentioned in the trial) in an attempt to do DNA matching.

I'm sure if chalk were found in the blood samples then it would have been identified as chalk...

mrplunkey said:
EDTA is a common preservative found in food as well as in laboratory applications.

It's kinda like chalk in the weight room... if you are a chalk-friendly gym, a little of it is going to show up in the bathroom, the front desk, hell... probably even the parking lot.
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Arabian said:
Im watching Nancy Grace and she has explained that he recieved 1 million dollars for the advance on his book and that he used the money to pay off his 3.5 million home in Miami. She also said 600k was put in a trust fund for his childeren. Unreal
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The Juice is no dummy
 
i hope OJ gets a chainsaw run up his ass
 
gjohnson5 said:
The police do not have to plant evidence against a man who is actually guilty. If the man was truly guilty then why was EDTA found in blood samples at the crime scene??? I was watching Nancy Grace last night myself and I find her to be totally judgemental. If OJ where white and Nicole / Ron were black would so many people be this judgemental about the situation. I doubt that seriously. So as far as answering to the higher judge, I would say the same thing about police forces who commonly abuse people , use exessive force, plant evidence and kill people due to racial bias every day.
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So you think OJ is innocent of murder?
 
nancy grace is a closed minded judgemental biatrch, IMO.
 
gjohnson5 said:
EDTA is used in blood sampling to extract DNA information. The police took blood from OJ (as we mentioned in the trial) in an attempt to do DNA matching.

I'm sure if chalk were found in the blood samples then it would have been identified as chalk...
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I was using chalk as an example of a commonly-found item that gets everywhere.

Yes, EDTA is used in blood sampling, but it's also used in things as common as mayonaise. I bet I could swab my own kitchen and find a little EDTA somewhere (even though I hate mayonaise with a passion).
 
madbomber31 said:
do you guys think OJ has a tough time getting laid now???
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Nope he gets all those crazy bitches.....you know the ones that marry the killers in jail....
 
gjohnson5 said:
As I said earlier in the thread, I think the whole situation needs to be investigated

1. His and Her drug usage
2. His connections with Marcus Allen
3. He guys such as Ron Goldman and others she was seing.

I cannot assume he is the knifeman knowing the LAPD planted evidence
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I am amazed that there are people that after looking at the facts in front of them, still have any reservations that he did murder ron and nicole. They were no angels I will admit, but with all due respect, a person would have to be a mental midget or totally close-minded to not see what the facts proved. He is a murderer who got off on a technicality.

Whats funny is that there are still black people that think that he was the victim of racism. Gotta love that race card. Regardless the trial was a joke with all the drama and cameras and the "ito dancers". lol

I am sure glad it's in the past and I think we would all be happier if OJ was never spoken of again.
 
I think the closed minded person is the one in the mirror if you ever look at one. You have stated no "facts" whatsoever which lead to his guilt. The only fact that counts is that he was acquitted due to the contamined blood evidence and the motives of racist cops. If anything that evidence proved that there is more then "reasonable doubt" he did not do it.

As far as this so called "race card", it was played as soon as sentiments from the white community were fueled by a black man accused of murdering 2 white folks. I just wish people would just admit this is the reason why they feel the way they do. Those sentiments really have NOTHING to do with facts in the case as you haven't stated any. You probably don't know any either...

rykertest said:
I am amazed that there are people that after looking at the facts in front of them, still have any reservations that he did murder ron and nicole. They were no angels I will admit, but with all due respect, a person would have to be a mental midget or totally close-minded to not see what the facts proved. He is a murderer who got off on a technicality.

Whats funny is that there are still black people that think that he was the victim of racism. Gotta love that race card. Regardless the trial was a joke with all the drama and cameras and the "ito dancers". lol

I am sure glad it's in the past and I think we would all be happier if OJ was never spoken of again.
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I am amazed that we are still talking about OJ when nobody gives a rat's ass about Robert Blake blowing a hole in his wife and getting off scott free.
 
gjohnson5 said:
I think the closed minded person is the one in the mirror if you ever look at one. You have stated no "facts" whatsoever which lead to his guilt. The only fact that counts is that he was acquitted due to the contamined blood evidence and the motives of racist cops. If anything that evidence proved that there is more then "reasonable doubt" he did not do it.

As far as this so called "race card", it was played as soon as sentiments from the white community were fueled by a black man accused of murdering 2 white folks. I just wish people would just admit this is the reason why they feel the way they do. Those sentiments really have NOTHING to do with facts in the case as you haven't stated any. You probably don't know any either...
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Well we aren't going to ever end this pissing match if we get into a race discussion, and there are enough of these threads anyways.....but I digress.


I didn't realize you needed a case summary of the OJ trial in my post to prove my point, but I guess facts wouldn't be enough for you anyways. You will go on feeling bad for this "poor black man" that was a victim of "racists cops" and the rest of us will go on knowing a man regardless of color killing 2 other humans and was set free for it.

He is a murderer; you know this to be true, but fear accepting that fact will show you were wrong and you don't want to lose face. So go on, the rest of will dwell here in reality while you continue to live in your black could nine.

In the words of forest gump, "I didn't mean to ruin your black panther party".
 
ryker is showing bigotry and rasisim, g5 is showing his unity for his fellow man.











heh heh
 
All I have to say to this is wow.

I have to be a black panther to believe reasonable doubt is reasonable doubt? I will not call this a pissing match , I'll call this an idiot match becuase you'd have to be an idiot to assume someone's guilt with no facts whatsoever. A case summary was never asked for but I'm sure you had one ready right?

Well I guess my black panther party will continue now...


rykertest said:
Well we aren't going to ever end this pissing match if we get into a race discussion, and there are enough of these threads anyways.....but I digress.


I didn't realize you needed a case summary of the OJ trial in my post to prove my point, but I guess facts wouldn't be enough for you anyways. You will go on feeling bad for this "poor black man" that was a victim of "racists cops" and the rest of us will go on knowing a man regardless of color killing 2 other humans and was set free for it.

He is a murderer; you know this to be true, but fear accepting that fact will show you were wrong and you don't want to lose face. So go on, the rest of will dwell here in reality while you continue to live in your black could nine.

In the words of forest gump, "I didn't mean to ruin your black panther party".
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gjohnson5 said:
The police do not have to plant evidence against a man who is actually guilty. If the man was truly guilty then why was EDTA found in blood samples at the crime scene??? .
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Did the police plant evidence??

yes.


Did OJ commit the murders or at was he at least there to LEAVE blood at the site etc??

yes


would oj have been convicted witout the blood planting??


Hard to say.




I think everyone knows that he either did it himself or was in on it with someone else.


the police fucked up by planting excessive evidence b/c they wanted to ensure a guilty verdict as he was a celebrity etc.

Ironic I think
 
The Shadow said:
I think everyone knows that he either did it himself or was in on it with someone else.
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4everhung had a white bronco.
He's not too far away.
As a mortician, he understands the points where to instantly kill
He hates white woman with bad blonde dying jobs.
Friendly with dogs so that Kato the dog would not have barked.
Good wingman

I think there was a second guy involved.
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
and your proof of this is where?
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...OJ's blood(and I mean without the EDTA) AT the crime scene.

Hence - he did it or was at least there....that is undeniable
 
The Shadow said:
or was in on it with someone else.
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Kind of hard to cause so much damage by yourself. Plus, to pick up Goldman and drop him in the bushes....with a gimp knee?

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I dont remember the exact details of the case, that was years ago.. No one will ever know exactly what happened except for OJ and God..and of course Nicole!
 
I have to disagree with this.

The blood evidence was contamineted with EDTA. Much of the evidence was mishandled by the criminalists.

There was no knife or bloody clothes at his residence

The glove was planted, period It didn't fit anyway

They never found the Bruno Magley shoes...

There is no explanation as to how 1 man kills the 2 of them in such a gruesome way. IE I think Goldman Aorta was severed and his throat was slit which means he had time to stab him wit a knife around 5 times in chest, drop him and then slit his throat. Then place multiple stab wounds in Nicole without either of them running or making enough of a scene to attract the neighbors.

I believe there were multiple killers.



The Shadow said:
...OJ's blood(and I mean without the EDTA) AT the crime scene.

Hence - he did it or was at least there....that is undeniable
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gjohnson5 said:
I have to disagree with this.

The blood evidence was contamineted with EDTA. Much of the evidence was mishandled by the criminalists.

There was no knife or bloody clothes at his residence

The glove was planted, period It didn't fit anyway

They never found the Bruno Magley shoes...

There is no explanation as to how 1 man kills the 2 of them in such a gruesome way. IE I think Goldman Aorta was severed and his throat was slit which means he had time to stab him wit a knife around 5 times in chest, drop him and then slit his throat. Then place multiple stab wounds in Nicole without either of them running or making enough of a scene to attract the neighbors.

I believe there were multiple killers.
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Some very good points.. just one question what is EDTA?
 
Dude....

his blood was AT the crime scene


Period.


that is a fact.


undisputed by the defense team.



look up the evidence.....the EDTA was found at his residence...not the crime scene
 
gjohnson5 said:
I think he knows more then what he is saying. But I think it's a rush to judgement to assume he is the knifeman.
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A rush to judgement? Dude the murders were like 10 years ago.
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
Some very good points.. just one question what is EDTA?
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EDTA is a very common preservative used in lots of foods as well as in laboratory reagents. People cling to the notion that *some* EDTA was found somewhere in the case (the residence maybe, but not the crime scene?) and built this entire case for a frame-up around it.

Have your kitchen swabbed sometime. If you've have mayonaise or a bunch of other common processed foods in the past week or so, you'll test positive for EDTA too.
 
mrplunkey said:
EDTA is a very common preservative used in lots of foods as well as in laboratory reagents. People cling to the notion that *some* EDTA was found somewhere in the case (the residence maybe, but not the crime scene?) and built this entire case for a frame-up around it.

Have your kitchen swabbed sometime. If you've have mayonaise or a bunch of other common processed foods in the past week or so, you'll test positive for EDTA too.
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Thanks for the information. Thats two things I learned today..

I found out what cyprus mulch is and now EDTA. I guess its better than learning from the tops of snapple caps. lol..
 
If the OJ case set the standard for reasonable doubt, we'd probably get 5-10 convictions per year for murder.
 
EDTA is blood preservative and used in DNA extraction. The levels of EDTA were consistant with blood sample from a test tube found here of blood samples of the deceased nicole on a bloody sock and blood samples on the gate at OJ's residence

http://www.courttv.com/trials/ojsimpson/weekly/27.html#continue


1.5 mils of the 8 mills blood taken from Oj at the jail was missing from the police laboratory...

Enough said

ItalianMuscle27 said:
Some very good points.. just one question what is EDTA?
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Ive always been fasicinated with forensics, its amazing the theories they come up with and can pinpoint what actually happened.. I always watch CSI(Vegas) my favorite show..
 
gjohnson5 said:
There was no knife or bloody clothes at his residence
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No, they only found the knife case and he couldn't explain where his missing jogging suit disappeared to.

They never found the Bruno Magley shoes...
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You mean the shoes OJ said he never owned....only to find pictures of him wearing those shoes?

oh...and the gloves fit....the meathead prosecution lawyers have obviously never had wet leather gloves before or they would have realized you have to stretch wet leather gloves

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gotmilk said:
No, they only found the knife case and he couldn't explain where his missing jogging suit disappeared to.


You mean the shoes OJ said he never owned....only to find pictures of him wearing those shoes?

oh...and the gloves fit....the meathead prosecution lawyers have obviously never had wet leather gloves before or they would have realized you have to stretch wet leather gloves

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there is too much vague ground.


thats why I asked him to clarify his point above
 
I'm pretty sure that OJ knew more about the deaths than he ever talked about in public. The police did some silly things that became trial-breakers. I've yet to see the police being put on trial for attempting to pervert the course of justice, which they certainly did.

Doesn't America now permit double-jeopardy? If there were still deemed a case to answer then they could call for one.
 
One cannot be tried twice for the same crime , so no. But what can be done s if there are 2 counts , then the first count can be tried and the second count can be tried later.

blut wump said:
I'm pretty sure that OJ knew more about the deaths than he ever talked about in public. The police did some silly things that became trial-breakers. I've yet to see the police being put on trial for attempting to pervert the course of justice, which they certainly did.

Doesn't America now permit double-jeopardy? If there were still deemed a case to answer then they could call for one.
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The incriminating blood samples concentrated on at the case was a blood sample on a gate at Nicole's house (belonging to OJ) and a blood splatter (belonging to Nicole) on a sock found at OJ's house. Both had EDTA levels consistant with a blood sample from a vial

http://www.courttv.com/trials/ojsimpson/weekly/30.html

Clark reminded Rieders that EDTA commonly is used as a food preservative. She also pressed him about the average level of EDTA found in a healthy person--suggesting it would not be abnormal to find EDTA in the blood samples. But Rieders insisted that not only was EDTA present, but the amount was consistent with having come from a tube of preserved blood.

The Shadow said:
Show me again where it states that only EDTA contaminated blood was found at the scene.......
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The police do not have to plant evidence against a man who is actually guilty. If the man was truly guilty then why was EDTA found in blood samples at the crime scene??? I was watching Nancy Grace last night myself and I find her to be totally judgemental. If OJ where white and Nicole / Ron were black would so many people be this judgemental about the situation. I doubt that seriously. So as far as answering to the higher judge, I would say the same thing about police forces who commonly abuse people , use exessive force, plant evidence and kill people due to racial bias every day.
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I hear you


But most people don’t believe this is a race situation, and also believe that OJ is simply guilty.
 
Sorry gotmilk... Tje gloves were stretched and still did not fit. leather gloves don't shrink when wet...

http://www.courttv.com/trials/ojsimpson/weekly/28.html

The bloodstained gloves have haunted the prosecution since Simpson was asked to try them on in court. Simpson tugged and pulled on them and told jurors they were too small. Deputy District Attorney Christopher Darden later had Simpson try on new gloves of the same style. Those fit, and Darden suggested the murder gloves had shrunk. MacDonell was expected to testify that blood-soaked gloves would not shrink as much as the prosecution claims.



gotmilk said:
oh...and the gloves fit....the meathead prosecution lawyers have obviously never had wet leather gloves before or they would have realized you have to stretch wet leather gloves

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gjohnson5 said:
leather gloves don't shrink when wet...
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Of course they do. As someone who has leather and deer skin gloves, trust me when I state wet gloves have to be stretched back to size. Deer skin gloves are the only leather that does not dry "stiff". The typical cow hide leather gloves dry stiff as a board and almost one size smaller. Thankfully, you can stretch the gloves back to size.

Throw in the stupid move of making OJ wear surgical gloves....that's like wearing two pairs of socks.

The prosecution were absolute idiots to allow that demonstration. Johnny Cochran must have laughed his ass off.
 
I think it is an interesting case all around.
If you listen to everyone who has come forward since the trial you can see that the prosecution was overwhelmed by the amount of evidence they had.
Someone out there knows what really happened. The rest of us are speculating.
What blows my mind is how much evidence was not used or was botched.
The bloody finger print on the gate stands out.
That case was a flashpoint for the population of this country. It is still said today that if there was a video of OJ commiting the murders he would probably still been found not guilty by the jury.
 
gjohnson5 said:
The police do not have to plant evidence against a man who is actually guilty. If the man was truly guilty then why was EDTA found in blood samples at the crime scene??? I was watching Nancy Grace last night myself and I find her to be totally judgemental. If OJ where white and Nicole / Ron were black would so many people be this judgemental about the situation. I doubt that seriously.
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No, which is why nobody gives two shits about Robert Blake blowing a hole in his wife and getting off scott free. People only care because a black man and a hot white woman were involved.
 
Dial_tone said:
I am amazed that we are still talking about OJ when nobody gives a rat's ass about Robert Blake blowing a hole in his wife and getting off scott free.
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Does Robert Blake have custody of their kids?
 
Creepusmaximus said:
That's not nice. every white person should own at least one black, they don't do well on their own.
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Dude, you suck at being a racist: you'd never have typed "white person".
 
Dial_tone said:
No, which is why nobody gives two shits about Robert Blake blowing a hole in his wife and getting off scott free. People only care because a black man and a hot white woman were involved.
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A lot of people care...that dude makes Charles Manson look normal.
 
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