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HighIntensity
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hmmmm...
huntmaster
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Fair Trial-----WTF??????
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HighIntensity
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huntmaster hypothetically this country is founded on the right to a fair trail...innocent until proven guilty...
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HighIntensity
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even the NAZI'S were given trials
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HighIntensity
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granted, you are right Ryan he will never be captured...alive
huntmaster
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HighIntensity said:
You are in left field ---- IMO
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HighIntensity
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I play where I want 2, and yes I would love to kill and tourture that bastard...I was mainly makeing a point on the right to a fair trial...
Virtual Acid
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No way!
I certainly hope he doesnt get a fair trial, Killing so many people and trying to blow up major cities isnt something somone should be forgiven for... so mhm.
I certainly hope he doesnt get a fair trial, Killing so many people and trying to blow up major cities isnt something somone should be forgiven for... so mhm.
FarBeyondDriven
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High, although it would be right, I don't really think they have enough proof on him. Could not find a jury that did not know the case, and it wouldn't be fair in the first place.
Personally yes he should, and then hung. But he will never be found, and as stated before if so he will be dead.
Personally yes he should, and then hung. But he will never be found, and as stated before if so he will be dead.
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Warik
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Osama bin Laden should be given a fair trial.
He should then be found guilty and promptly executed.
I don't see the problem.
(Note: "Fair Trial" = Military Trial
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-Warik
He should then be found guilty and promptly executed.
I don't see the problem.
(Note: "Fair Trial" = Military Trial
)-Warik
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HighIntensity
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and you din't even mention HE-MAN once
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Warik
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spongebob said:
I've never really understood the concept of "calling bullshit." Care to explain?
spongebob said:
Wassup chief?
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Frackal
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I have a feeling Osama won't be caught.
If he is 'killed,' I would be surprised if his corpse is his corpse..kinda like Jim Jones.
If he is 'killed,' I would be surprised if his corpse is his corpse..kinda like Jim Jones.
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Warik
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I'm saying they should try Osama yomamma in a military court, find him guilty, and then execute him.
I consider myself a teacher of mere mortal humans who hopes to enable them to rise above their mediocrity; so tell me, dear mortal, what part exactly is it that you do not understand?
=)
-Warik
I consider myself a teacher of mere mortal humans who hopes to enable them to rise above their mediocrity; so tell me, dear mortal, what part exactly is it that you do not understand?
=)
-Warik
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HighIntensity
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Jo: Lieutenant Kendrick, do you think Santiago was murdered?
Kendrick: Commander, I believe in God, and in his son Jesus Christ, and because I do, I can say this: Private Santiago is dead and that's a tragedy. But he's dead because he had no code. He's dead because he had no honor. And God was watching.
Sam: How do you feel about that theory?
Kaffee: Sounds good. Let's move on.
( Rating: 10.00 Review It | 9-Feb-2000 )
Jessep: I am gonna rip the eyes out of your head and piss in your dead skull, you fucked with the wrong marine!
( Rating: 0 Review It | 13-May-2000 )
Jessep: How the hell is your dad?
Kaffee: He passed away seven years ago, Colonel.
Jessep: Well ... don't I feel like the fuckin asshole.
Kaffee: Not at all, sir.
( Rating: 7.00 Review It | gary cipollone 25-May-2000 )
Jessep: You can't handle the truth. Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lieutenant Weinberg? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago and you curse the marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand at post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.
Jessep: You ever served in an infantry unit son?
Kaffee: No Sir.
Jessep: You ever served in a forward area unit?
Kaffee: No Sir.
Jessep: You ever put your life in another mans hands, and in return, asked him to put his life in yours?
Kaffee: No Sir.
Jessep: We follow orders, we follow orders or people die, it's that simple. Are we clear?
Kaffee: Yes, Sir.
Jessep: Are we clear!
Kaffee: Crystal.
ahhh military court
Kendrick: Commander, I believe in God, and in his son Jesus Christ, and because I do, I can say this: Private Santiago is dead and that's a tragedy. But he's dead because he had no code. He's dead because he had no honor. And God was watching.
Sam: How do you feel about that theory?
Kaffee: Sounds good. Let's move on.
( Rating: 10.00 Review It | 9-Feb-2000 )
Jessep: I am gonna rip the eyes out of your head and piss in your dead skull, you fucked with the wrong marine!
( Rating: 0 Review It | 13-May-2000 )
Jessep: How the hell is your dad?
Kaffee: He passed away seven years ago, Colonel.
Jessep: Well ... don't I feel like the fuckin asshole.
Kaffee: Not at all, sir.
( Rating: 7.00 Review It | gary cipollone 25-May-2000 )
Jessep: You can't handle the truth. Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lieutenant Weinberg? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago and you curse the marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand at post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.
Jessep: You ever served in an infantry unit son?
Kaffee: No Sir.
Jessep: You ever served in a forward area unit?
Kaffee: No Sir.
Jessep: You ever put your life in another mans hands, and in return, asked him to put his life in yours?
Kaffee: No Sir.
Jessep: We follow orders, we follow orders or people die, it's that simple. Are we clear?
Kaffee: Yes, Sir.
Jessep: Are we clear!
Kaffee: Crystal.
ahhh military court
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Warik
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"Mr. bin Laden, were you responsible for the terrorist attacks on September the 11th?"
"Objection your honor!"
"..."
"..."
"..."
"AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA"
"Guilty!"
"Guilty!"
"Objection your honor!"
"..."
"..."
"..."
"AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA"
"Guilty!"
"Guilty!"
O'Stanozol
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military court is not that funny.
Warik said:
If everyone believes he's guilty, what is the point of the military court? Just shoot him.
I'm not convinced they have enough evidence to convict him in a criminal court. Nor should they force us to pay for his trial.
There is some contradiction in the thinking of the administration's thinking.........If you don't want to deal with him in our system, turn him over to the International Crime Court. If they attempt to try him in a military court, expect more terrorists attacks, more kidnappings of Americans all over the world. And deaths. Be best to just shoot him, and do one of their coverups....let the Northern Alliance take the credit for finding him and killing him.
I do not want to see anymore American people kidnapped, and executed. I like to travel, and that would definitely curtail any excursions out of the US. Wait.....They can't protect us here either.......
If he slipped away from Afghanistan, I wouldn't be surprised....we have terrorists on our most wanted list from 20 years ago we can't catch.......
Milhouse
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From everything I have read I will say one thing. If the British SAS find him first he wont need a trial because he will be dead.
Apparentely these guys dont take prisoners or people alive and alledgedly make some of the different special forces in the states look like the National Guard(no offense to the nat'l guard).
I know some people are from countries here that have issues with the Brits just like some have it with the States etc, but there is no denying why the British had such an empire for 1000 plus years, because on the ground they kick major ass.
Any Americans who think otherwise because of the American Revolution ought to remember that one of the reasons the Brits lost that war was because the Americans fighting and leading it were former British Military at one point.
Apparentely these guys dont take prisoners or people alive and alledgedly make some of the different special forces in the states look like the National Guard(no offense to the nat'l guard).
I know some people are from countries here that have issues with the Brits just like some have it with the States etc, but there is no denying why the British had such an empire for 1000 plus years, because on the ground they kick major ass.
Any Americans who think otherwise because of the American Revolution ought to remember that one of the reasons the Brits lost that war was because the Americans fighting and leading it were former British Military at one point.
RyanH
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I'm not quite so sure that many of you are considering the risky consequences that comes when you give the EXECUTIVE branch, full authority over Justice. The Courts are much better equipped at dealing with justice through long estatblished doctrines and procedure.
If you guys prefer for George Bush to be in charge of administering Justice, so be it. But, as for myself, no way......Terrorists will not go free in federal court. Afterall, Timothy McVeigh certainly didn't. Giving the Executive branch/military over justice is turning our consitution on its head.
Ryan.
If you guys prefer for George Bush to be in charge of administering Justice, so be it. But, as for myself, no way......Terrorists will not go free in federal court. Afterall, Timothy McVeigh certainly didn't. Giving the Executive branch/military over justice is turning our consitution on its head.
Ryan.
This is all very true but I think all major military countries sport a "special force" that is promoted as second to none. I doubt that Navy SEAL training could accomplish anything be being tougher. I'd put them up against the British special forces any day. Americans are bigger and a little stronger.Milhouse said:
RyanH
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Test boy said:
eh eh eh...I've never disregarded parts of the Constitution, I just endorse it being intepretated in more "modernesque" ways.
But, your comparison to O.J. is quite good. But there is a distinction---O.J. Simpson polarized America & thus created two camps on America---pro-OJ and anti-O.J.
Bin Laden, however, has not polarized America in any way, thus do you think its possible to find 12 pro-Bin Laden supporters in the United States of America? we know the answer is NO....unless your jury pools target American terrorists cells.
The jury on Bin Laden wouldn't be out maybe 10 seconds, even with little evidence.........The law says proof beyond a reasonable doubt, but that's a very subjective standard in the mind's of jurors. The standard of proof beyond a reasonable doubt can easily be molded to getting the result jurors want.
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