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jmead

jmead

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what would be a recommended dosage and injection schedule for NPP. Looking to run it 6 wks

I am currently shooting 1cc test 250 1.5cc EQ 200..

6'5'' 235 9-10% bf

what would be the equivalent of 300-400mg deca a week.. do i need to shoot more to adjust to the shorter half life?
 
mikefear said:
shoot 75-100mg eod
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i was trying to get on the same dosing as my test/eq @ e3d.. would that not be a good idea? isnt the half life of phenylprop 4-5 days..if i was doin it that way.. would you say like 150-200 e3d? or more than that to keep the concentration around 300-400mg
 
Start with 100mg EOD and if you feel you need a bump move it up to 150mg EOD. I started my first run with NPP at 100mg EOD with Prop at 100mg EOD. First two weeks went by great and I wanted to see if there could be a big difference with 150EOD, which is what im on now. I think with the 150 i'm at the top tier or what I need to be with NPP right now. Maybe down the road some day i'd consider a higher dose, but right now 150 is good. I also noticed with the jump on days that I inject that if i'm not getting in enough water, i'll dehydrate fairly fast.
 
thanks for the reply.. so you wouldnt suggest shooting e3d? im running long esters.. i didnt really want to split up into EOD and e3d.. ugh..
 
jmead said:
thanks for the reply.. so you wouldnt suggest shooting e3d? im running long esters.. i didnt really want to split up into EOD and e3d.. ugh..
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If you shot 100mg e3d you'd be nowhere near 300mg wk. ex. mon 100mg, thurs 100mg, sun 100mg and looking at a 3-4 day half life, its gonna be low, but i'm no expert. EOD looks better. Less than that would be a waste IMHO.
 
ViperHMS said:
If you shot 100mg e3d you'd be nowhere near 300mg wk. ex. mon 100mg, thurs 100mg, sun 100mg and looking at a 3-4 day half life, its gonna be low, but i'm no expert. EOD looks better. Less than that would be a waste IMHO.
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what about as far as the cabaser and selegiline as prolactin/progestin side prevention? effective? and at what dose
 
Well you could have that on hand if any of those types of sides became evident, but NPP seems to have far less noticable side effects of deca, plus the fact that NPP being fast acting if you did begin to show any signs of sides, you could discontinue use and within the week they would subside. It would be a huge difference from using deca and having the onset of sides and trying to discontinue use, it would take much, much longer to see those sides subside.
 
ViperHMS said:
Well you could have that on hand if any of those types of sides became evident, but NPP seems to have far less noticable side effects of deca, plus the fact that NPP being fast acting if you did begin to show any signs of sides, you could discontinue use and within the week they would subside. It would be a huge difference from using deca and having the onset of sides and trying to discontinue use, it would take much, much longer to see those sides subside.
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basically im just asking if they are effective in doing so. preventing sides or combatting them.. im guessing that was a yes
 
jmead said:
basically im just asking if they are effective in doing so. preventing sides or combatting them.. im guessing that was a yes
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bump for sel. and cabaser dosage schedule? and amount.. its liquidchem
 
If you are wanting to space out the NPP E3D, then do it at 300mg.

Yes, run selegiline or Cabaser if you can.

Cabaser E3-4D @ 0.5mg/d.

Selegiline....????.

BMJ
 
MR. BMJ said:
If you are wanting to space out the NPP E3D, then do it at 300mg.

Yes, run selegiline or Cabaser if you can.

Cabaser E3-4D @ 0.5mg/d.

Selegiline....????.

BMJ
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i think im just goin to do it EOD since im already injecting 2.5cc every 3 days.. i dont want to have to hit 3 injection sites every 3 days.. ill just alternate shoulders EOD and alternate glutes e3d..

so bmj is that liquid cabaser dosage for npp/deca sides.. or is that just for noortropic benefits
 
Cabaser (cabergoline) is not a nootropic.

Selegiline is a nootropic.

Macro et al could probably chime in more on the Selegiline dosage. I've yet to use it.

I asked him once on the dosage for its anti-prolactin effects, and I think he said 20mg/d....that's off the top of my head so I could be wrong. Dosages for its nootropic effects will be different.

BMJ
 
jmead said:
i think im just goin to do it EOD since im already injecting 2.5cc every 3 days.. i dont want to have to hit 3 injection sites every 3 days.. ill just alternate shoulders EOD and alternate glutes e3d..

so bmj is that liquid cabaser dosage for npp/deca sides.. or is that just for noortropic benefits
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Oh you gotta throw quads into that rotation.
 
I can't really give an answer on that as i've never used Selegiline. Effectiveness for each compound will ultimately be decided on finding the optimal dosage for each.

Selegiline has nootropic effects that can be beneficial, but it will also come up as Meth if drug tested. I'm not sure, but Cabergoline may be the stronger of the two for the sole purpose of combatting progestins...then again, i'm not sure.

More users have used Cabergoline for its use as an anti-prolactin/progestin, so you will have more positive testimonials here in regards to the two compounds effectiveness head to head. It has been more "tried and true" if that makes sense.

BMJ
 
MR. BMJ said:
I can't really give an answer on that as i've never used Selegiline. Effectiveness for each compound will ultimately be decided on finding the optimal dosage for each.

Selegiline has nootropic effects that can be beneficial, but it will also come up as Meth if drug tested. I'm not sure, but Cabergoline may be the stronger of the two for the sole purpose of combatting progestins...then again, i'm not sure.

More users have used Cabergoline for its use as an anti-prolactin/progestin, so you will have more positive testimonials here in regards to the two compounds effectiveness head to head. It has been more "tried and true" if that makes sense.

BMJ
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ok thanks bro, so .5mg e3d
 
jmead said:
thanks for the reply.. so you wouldnt suggest shooting e3d? im running long esters.. i didnt really want to split up into EOD and e3d.. ugh..
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E3D is just fine with NPP
as far as a dose ...play with it ...start low and bump it up a bit at a time till you get to your desired max dose ...and if you run into sides before then, simply back the dose down again ...that the beauty of NPP ...fast acting and fast dissipating

i usually NPP EOD just so it will fit in with the PROP schedule
 
THE GOOD SUN said:
E3D is just fine with NPP
as far as a dose ...play with it ...start low and bump it up a bit at a time till you get to your desired max dose ...and if you run into sides before then, simply back the dose down again ...that the beauty of NPP ...fast acting and fast dissipating

i usually NPP EOD just so it will fit in with the PROP schedule
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ya im gonna go with eod.. not that bad i guess.. just did my first delt injection last night with npp.. slight soreness today but overall very easy shot..

what dosage do you run EOD.. i did 100mg
 
cabaser does nothing for npp and deca sides. with that said i would run proviron with it for libido and you can run it eod or e3d it doesn't matter. i did both. 75mg eod or however much more e3d, i am not good at math. i am going to run it with my winny next cycle to help with joints and i'll just do a low dose like 100mg e3d
 
bruce410 said:
cabaser does nothing for npp and deca sides. with that said i would run proviron with it for libido and you can run it eod or e3d it doesn't matter. i did both. 75mg eod or however much more e3d, i am not good at math. i am going to run it with my winny next cycle to help with joints and i'll just do a low dose like 100mg e3d
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so what exactly do you use to combat any sort of npp/tren/deca sides.. i thought cabaser lowers prolactin levels.. which is somewhat of a help if your lactating from high progesterone/prolactin..

i just started 100mg npp EOD..
with my
500 test e
600 eq

e3d and EOD injections.. luckily i started to write down my injection days in a word file.. haha... any input on liquid cabergoline? i have another thread ive bumped but no one has an answer.. should i not take this stuff..
 
i tried cabaser for my deca gyno it did nothing. i was lactating from the deca as well it did nothing. the only thing that did anything is winstrol and nolvadex. there is a progesterone inhibitor but good luck getting it. take b-12 with it as well this helps with prolactin. i dont' care what anyone says on here ask your doctor cabaser or dostinex will help with suppressing prolactin, this means it stops you from releasing it all during an orgasm and allows you to have more. it doesn't even work at doing that but that is what it is designed for.
 
bruce410 said:
i tried cabaser for my deca gyno it did nothing. i was lactating from the deca as well it did nothing. the only thing that did anything is winstrol and nolvadex. there is a progesterone inhibitor but good luck getting it. take b-12 with it as well this helps with prolactin. i dont' care what anyone says on here ask your doctor cabaser or dostinex will help with suppressing prolactin, this means it stops you from releasing it all during an orgasm and allows you to have more. it doesn't even work at doing that but that is what it is designed for.
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Exactly.. Again, I use Masteron instead of winstrol but this is my experience to the T..

Cabaser is an awesome nootropic though. It's an awesome smart drug..

T-Matt
 
T-Matt said:
Exactly.. Again, I use Masteron instead of winstrol but this is my experience to the T..

Cabaser is an awesome nootropic though. It's an awesome smart drug..

T-Matt
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do you know what the actual mechanism is behind winny helping with progesterone gyno, ive heard that before.. i havent read your links yet bruce it might be in there.. thanks though.. so this liquid cabergoline and liquid selegiline is useless?
 
jmead said:
do you know what the actual mechanism is behind winny helping with progesterone gyno, ive heard that before.. i havent read your links yet bruce it might be in there.. thanks though.. so this liquid cabergoline and liquid selegiline is useless?
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winny suppossedly competes for the progesterone receptors

cabaser/dostinex wont help with the gyno, only the delayed orgasm and sensitive nips/lactating nips/ red swollen nips. NOT lumps.
 
im currently using test/eq/npp/dbol

bro, if you want to time the shots together, shoot 200mg npp e3d, this equates to about 450mg/wk.......

i started shooting it at 100mg ed and the results were better than eod, or e3d, etc.....the pumps were insane at 100mg ed, i just got tired of the pinning, now i shoot 300mg of npp, 2x a week......

cabaser was at 1mg e3d
 
ViperHMS said:
Start with 100mg EOD and if you feel you need a bump move it up to 150mg EOD. I started my first run with NPP at 100mg EOD with Prop at 100mg EOD. First two weeks went by great and I wanted to see if there could be a big difference with 150EOD, which is what im on now. I think with the 150 i'm at the top tier or what I need to be with NPP right now. Maybe down the road some day i'd consider a higher dose, but right now 150 is good. I also noticed with the jump on days that I inject that if i'm not getting in enough water, i'll dehydrate fairly fast.
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yeah bro tell me about it. With the same dose last year I ended up in the ER dehydrated...:( Went out ot run (Miami Summer), heat index 100 degrees, started passing out 1/4 mile away from home. Got home I don't know how, the rest is history. Scary as Iran.
 
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