Novice Steroid User Looking for Advice

[bodybuilder63]

Im 22 and this will be my first time doing a cycle. i am 5'9" 180lbs around 10% bf for my first cycle i plan on running

W 1-12: Test Eth 250mg/twice wkly Mon/Thurs
W 6-12 :Winstrol 50ed
Arimidex 0.5mg ed

Pct: either clomid, arimidex and IGF-1 LR3 or nolvadex and aromasin and hcg

Having trouble figuring out pct and wondering if i should just take Hcg during cycle 250iu twice weekly and clomid in pct-NEED HELP!

 

[Ezekiel]

Im 22 and this will be my first time doing a cycle. i am 5'9" 180lbs around 10% bf for my first cycle i plan on running

W 1-12: Test Eth 250mg/twice wkly Mon/Thurs
W 6-12 :Winstrol 50ed
Arimidex 0.5mg ed

Pct: either clomid, arimidex and IGF-1 LR3 or nolvadex and aromasin and hcg

Having trouble figuring out pct and wondering if i should just take Hcg during cycle 250iu twice weekly and clomid in pct-NEED HELP!

Hello and welcome to EF!

Cycle looks ok.. I Might just stick to the Test for my 1st cycle, but hey...

Someone plz correct me if I am wrong here but I think you could do .5 of the dex eod.

I only take .25 ed.

I am doing the HCG during cycle, but again others might disagree.


Good Luck

 

[10001110101]

i like it except i say skip arimidex altogether.

have Aromasin on hand in case you get symptoms of gyno but i wouldn't just run an AI throughout unless you need it.

for PCT just use HCG and Aromasin.

i would run HCG weeks 4-12 at 500iu/wk (you'll need two ampules b/c HCG keeps for four weeks refrigerated)
then for pct just run Aromasin.

Aromasin is arguably the best Anti-E out there, zero sides, great estrogen reduction.

no need to have nolva, clomid, and arimidex. aromasin is a one stop shop for estro control.

once you get to week 6 you will be decently bloated but it will help with your gains a lot, but once you start the winstrol you won't be bloated at all or not noticeably.

solid first cycle tho.

 

[bodybuilder63]

So hcg would be more benefical during cycle and followed with aromasin and clomid?

 

[silent says]

Welcome BB63.

 

[10001110101]

So hcg would be more benefical during cycle and followed with aromasin and clomid?

yes but skip the clomid altogether. it's redundant and will only bring negative sides. it will also bind more testosterone giving you less bioavailable testosterone making it a poor choice for pct.

it was the first pct drug ever used and this is the only reason that it remains a popular choice.

it is actually just about the worst compound you can use for pct.

 

[bodybuilder63]

how should hcg be dosed during a cycle? and would i combine aromasin and nolvadex for pct?

 

[eClenbuterol]

I respectfully disagree when it comes to not running a AI during your cycle. Why should people wait UNTIL they get gyno or have it on hand when you can run a low dose alongside your cycle and have a higher probability of not having the problem.

If you guys knew how many people PM or e-mail me BEGGING me to overnight packages because they have painful lumps and signs of Gynocomestia. It's something you do not see on the boards alot because people are embarrassed or afraid of getting flamed when seeking help.

 

[Ezekiel]

I respectfully disagree when it comes to not running a AI during your cycle. Why should people wait UNTIL they get gyno or have it on hand when you can run a low dose alongside your cycle and have a higher probability of not having the problem.

If you guys knew how many people PM or e-mail me BEGGING me to overnight packages because they have painful lumps and signs of Gynocomestia. It's something you do not see on the boards alot because people are embarrassed or afraid of getting flamed when seeking help.

++++1

"An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"

Perhaps a bit cliche, but....

 

[hooverdeuce]

It's scientifically proven that gains won't be quite as good if you run an ai on cycle correct? I believe that is why people recommend to wait and see if you have sides.

 

[Ezekiel]

It's scientifically proven that gains won't be quite as good if you run an ai on cycle correct? I believe that is why people recommend to wait and see if you have sides.

By whom? Sounds a little like brology to me.

Personally, I would rather have less gains, then gyno. But hey whatever right. Some chicks dig man boobies!!

 

[hooverdeuce]

lol, i dont have a reference off the top of my head. are you saying estrogen does not help you get stronger and grow on cycle? i thought this was pretty widely accepted.

 

[Ezekiel]

lol, i dont have a reference off the top of my head. are you saying estrogen does not help you get stronger and grow on cycle? i thought this was pretty widely accepted.

I'm just razzing you bro!

Seriously though, there is quite a bit of debate in regards to a.i's while on cycle.

Personally for myself, I prefere to err on the side of caution. Like I said before, i would rather have a few less pounds on me then deal w/ gyno.

Speaking from my own (albeit limited) experience, .25/mg of arimidex ed helps w/ the bloat I get from the dbol kick start.

Blessings,