novice cycle advice

[shoichi]

I am on my first cycle of sust. I'm taking 250 a week and so far I have put on about 8 lbs of lean muscle in 4 weeks. I have lost a good amount of bodyfat aswell so I have actually put on a bit more than 8 lbs. No noticeable water retention either. Strength is up considerably considering its only been a little under 4 weeks.

You will be quite happy with the gains from 250 a week and it gives you a change to see if you are prone to any weird side effects.

I did a 250/8 week cycle and kept 8lbs 6 months later. The only problem with this is, some people don't respond at all to 250/week. I definitely have to go with the less is more on first cycles, for the reasons that you stated.

I'm on my second cycle at 437/week/8 weeks. I'm starting my 4th week and am up around 4lbs with no water, or around 7lbs including my water weight. I expect to retain around 15lbs post cycle.

 

[FREAKZILLA1]

This isn't my first cycle, I did one before of just 10cc's of omnadren over 6 weeks in a pyramid. I made ok gains but then damaged a shoulder ligament playing hockey so I was out of the gym for 4-5 months and lost my gains. Is 750mgs too much for me per week for 10 weeks? Any other questions I'll be glad to answer!

i did 750sust/600EQ 10 weeks my first "real" cycle. another words cycle w/ injectables....not just winny/anavar/dbol etc. when i started i was the same weight and 2" shorter than you. so i'd say your alright with that mg amount. i feel i should have went higher actually, i wasn't thrilled w/ my gains and neither was my friend who did the same (w/o EQ though). he admitted to a rather shitty diet, and i ate proper (enough protein and made sure to eat every 3 hrs).....but held back cals so as not to get fat. i suppose i did what i was aiming for in losing fat and gaining some muscle.

 

[genarr3]

for a first cycle at 160 lbs all you really need is 250mg per week for 8/10 weeks and 20mg dbol for four weeks. if you cant put on 15+ lbs from this you are doing something terribly wrong.
foo

Good advice. Not everone needs 500mgs to see gains.

 

[genarr3]

for a first cycle at 160 lbs all you really need is 250mg per week for 8/10 weeks and 20mg dbol for four weeks. if you cant put on 15+ lbs from this you are doing something terribly wrong.
foo

Good advice. Not everone needs 500mgs to see gains.

BTW - Natural production of testosterone at best is about 70mgs/week. So he's nearly increasing it x3.