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Not feeling the DNP

cboogsrun

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Just looking for some guidance from experienced guys. I'm taking 200mg of DNP a day. Not feeling the extreme heat. My temp was only up about half of a degree. I'm wondering if the first week I should stick with the 200mg then on the 2nd week go ahead and take 200mg twice a day? Any advice would be extremely appreciated.

Boogs
 
If you've never run a DNP cycle before, do not increase your dosage. The side effects get stronger over the course of the cycle as it accumulates in your system due to the half-life.

You generally won't feel crap for a couple days. Further, some people just tolerate the side effects better and don't notice it as much -- that does not mean the chemical is having any less effect on you internally.

As a general rule, increasing dosages is a bad idea if you are still receiving any effects from a given medication. By increasing a dosage you're incurring a much greater risk of sustaining a severe reaction, which in this case I need to remind you could lead to death among the other risks such as suppressing your thyroid (leading you to puff right back up when you go off it).

That said, if you're planning to do this regardless of the risks anyway, I'd advise you run a normal cycle (~10 on, 14 total) at your normal dosage, take a cycle's worth of time (~14 days*) off to flush the accumulated DNP from your system (you can use this time to eat clean and often to stablize your thyroid levels without jeopardizing your body composition, as well) , and then gradually step your dosage up the next cycle to ease the stress on your body (200mg 1x daily to start, then move to 2x daily on the third day). DNP's half-life will naturally leave slowly.


*Technically, it's 15 days for DNP. This equals ten half-lives of the compound, which is what is considered a "safe" level for hazardous materials. (0.1% remaining).


P.S. Don't kill yourself, Narcissus.
 
I'm eating lots of meats, vegetables, and fruits. Trying to keep it clean. Thanks everyone for the advice.

Boogs

quizkid said:
Are you on a low carb diet? DNP works really well if you are eating a lot of carbs.

chilly
 
If you are on your second week it is safe to go up to 400mg per day split in 2 doses one 200mg pill every 2 hours.This is the optimal dose for best results and a safe point to be at.Any higher than this and your risking getting hurt.
 
nzbro said:
no night sweats ?
crystal or normal ?
Man dnp kicks my ass

200mg is not that much and may very well cause no night sweats depending on carb intake, water intake, and your overall weight.

Still, don't up the dosage for at least the first three days.
 
DO NOT UP THE DOSAGE!

If you want to experience some heat drink a can of coke, but by all means just keep it at the same dosage. Make sure you are drinking water...1-2 gallons a day at the least. By keeping you food intake low in simple carbs you are not feeling it but believe me it's working. Just becareful and if you have anymore questions on it I suggest you PM macro as he is the only person that I would really trust completely on DNP.
 
curgeo said:
DO NOT UP THE DOSAGE!

If you want to experience some heat drink a can of coke, but by all means just keep it at the same dosage. Make sure you are drinking water...1-2 gallons a day at the least. By keeping you food intake low in simple carbs you are not feeling it but believe me it's working. Just becareful and if you have anymore questions on it I suggest you PM macro as he is the only person that I would really trust completely on DNP.
This is incorrect.After 4-5 days if everything is ok with no allergies considering he weighs over 170lbs it is perfectly ok to go up to 400mg but no more than this I have ran 3 successfull dnp cycles and have done as much as 2 hours of cardio a day on it,one hour in the am and one hour in the pm burning up to 1800 cal per day on the eliptical.Yes it was catabolic but it shredded the fat off a lot more efficiently.Also I do not recomend any1 to do this I know my body and know what is safe and what its not.But 400mg a day is a moderate dose and perfectly safe to take split up over a 12 hour period.You can add the cardio as you feel confortable at a slow pace and ALWAYS drinking plenty of water as you do it.I recomend doing the eliptical or the bike indoors,no outdoor jogging or even jogging indoors on a treadmill as jogging makes it hard to replenish fluids while your doing it.Also diet really dosent much matter as much as the cardio will to burn off the fat from my own experiences.As I said you have to increase it slowly taking baby steps till you know what you can handle and be safe with it because it can kill you so respect it.Also when I went up to high cardio sessions I suplemented the dnp with 10-15ius of slin pwo to counter the caqtabolic effects of the substance and this seemed to work out as a great combination.I also would not recomend this unless you are highly experienced with these substances as they are both deadly and not forgivin to mistakes.So just a little food for thought but be very cautios with them. :coffee:
 
I also have ran it up to 400mg a day...But dnp is one of those drugs that a little is enough and too much is not. I would rather err on the side of caution with this, especially when somebody does not feel the effects of it. The idea behind simple carbs is when you take them in you will feel the heat from the mitochondria working which is the feeling I think this person is missing out on.

I also don't think that advising somebody to take slin right now is a good idea, especially when they didn't do enough research on dnp in the first place. Good advise otherwise, but I don't recommend upping the dosage right now. 200mg is plenty to get the intended effect. Less is not more right now.
 
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curgeo said:
I also have ran it up to 400mg a day...But dnp is one of those drugs that a little is enough and too much is not. I would rather err on the side of caution with this, especially when somebody does not feel the effects of it. The idea behind simple carbs is when you take them in you will feel the heat from the mitochondria working which is the feeling I think this person is missing out on.

I also don't think that advising somebody to take slin right now is a good idea, especially when they didn't do enough research on dnp in the first place. Good advise otherwise, but I don't recommend upping the dosage right now. 200mg is plenty to get the intended effect. Less is not more right now.
Notice the part were I say in the post that this is what I do and I do not recomend any1 to do the same unless extremely advanced.Also the heat from the dnp dosent mean is working better or worse it is just a byproduct of your body making heat to get rid of the calories from the carbohydrates.
 
Point here being that he's not familiar with DNP. You lay out some real good advice that benefits the community as a whole, but in this guy's specific case, he didn't do any research before he started popping caps, so what's to stop him from just following any cycle advice somebody lays out? He could bust out into the red rash tomorrow and just keep going.

When playing with dangerous shit, it's always better to err on the side of caution. Unless he's got a damn competition coming up, he's got plenty of life left in him. I feel he'd be better served by running a standard cycle to familiarize himself with its effects, then progressing to higher as he becomes more comfortable and knowledgeable as opposed to risking a reaction from running too much, too fast.

Further, while I agree that 400mg can be run safely for most people (I weigh ~130), it's unwise to label it a moderate dose, as not only does DNP actually begin to affect your quality of life at that point (strong side effects manifest), that encourages people to start running 600, 800, or even greater mgs for FASTER HARDER FASTER results. These are important things to consider once you take into account the very small size of the DNP community. Most newcomers, like our friend here, are almost entirely educated via third-party information like these posts. They listen to the wrong information and they're going to cook themselves from the inside out.

I mean, if someone my size ran 800, that'd be it.
 
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On 200mg i never feel anything, give it 2-3 days then bump to 400mg and then the sweats will start. Good luck.
But i don't recommend going up to 600mg on ur first cycle.

Respect.
 
As far as researching enough, I've waited 3 years to do it. My knowledge is adequate just not my experience. I'm not a sugar eater, so the best place for simple carbs is in fruits, for me. I've quite drinking pop all together since it will not hydrate me fast enough, so theres another sugar source down. I hate rice. I feel the heat when I lay down for bed. I've had to change my pillow cover twice. Just during the day I don't feel anything, so I figured I'd ask some experience guys to make sure I was kosher on my facts. Thanks for all the help, it is sincerelly appreciated.

Boogs

curgeo said:
I also have ran it up to 400mg a day...But dnp is one of those drugs that a little is enough and too much is not. I would rather err on the side of caution with this, especially when somebody does not feel the effects of it. The idea behind simple carbs is when you take them in you will feel the heat from the mitochondria working which is the feeling I think this person is missing out on.

I also don't think that advising somebody to take slin right now is a good idea, especially when they didn't do enough research on dnp in the first place. Good advise otherwise, but I don't recommend upping the dosage right now. 200mg is plenty to get the intended effect. Less is not more right now.
 
Because of the consequences than may be involved, I sought some advice. Not because lack of knowledge. I've read archives and done some of my own research also. This shit can make you second guess yourself when you have no experience.

Boogs


rtnhrtnh said:
Point here being that he's not familiar with DNP. You lay out some real good advice that benefits the community as a whole, but in this guy's specific case, he didn't do any research before he started popping caps, so what's to stop him from just following any cycle advice somebody lays out? He could bust out into the red rash tomorrow and just keep going.

When playing with dangerous shit, it's always better to err on the side of caution. Unless he's got a damn competition coming up, he's got plenty of life left in him. I feel he'd be better served by running a standard cycle to familiarize himself with its effects, then progressing to higher as he becomes more comfortable and knowledgeable as opposed to risking a reaction from running too much, too fast.

Further, while I agree that 400mg can be run safely for most people (I weigh ~130), it's unwise to label it a moderate dose, as not only does DNP actually begin to affect your quality of life at that point (strong side effects manifest), that encourages people to start running 600, 800, or even greater mgs for FASTER HARDER FASTER results. These are important things to consider once you take into account the very small size of the DNP community. Most newcomers, like our friend here, are almost entirely educated via third-party information like these posts. They listen to the wrong information and they're going to cook themselves from the inside out.

I mean, if someone my size ran 800, that'd be it.
 
I agree cboogs....I posted a topic called "For those that are considering or doing DNP." Take a look at that and that should answer a couple of questions for you. I still don't recommend going any higher than what you are doing.
 
cboogsrun said:
Because of the consequences than may be involved, I sought some advice. Not because lack of knowledge. I've read archives and done some of my own research also. This shit can make you second guess yourself when you have no experience.

Boogs

Fair enough. At your size, 400mg daily shouldn't be a problem, though I'd never suggest running it higher to anybody regardless of size. If you experience extreme sides (dizziness, the red rash), stop altogether, wait for the DNP to clear, then you should be safe to restart. The rash is bad. :)

Generally, DNP should be used in lower doses over a greater number of cycles as opposed to one huge body wrecking cycle. Moderation is key.
 
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