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North Korea Threatens New York, Washington, and Chicago

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Pyongyang: We'll put a torch to New York
By Shane Green, Herald Correspondent in Tokyo
March 8 2003





North Korea would launch a ballistic missile attack on the United States if Washington made a pre-emptive strike against the communist state's nuclear facility, the man described as Pyongyang's "unofficial spokesman" claimed yesterday.

Kim Myong-chol, who has links to the Stalinist regime, told reporters in Tokyo that a US strike on the nuclear facility at Yongbyon "means nuclear war".

"If American forces carry out a pre-emptive strike on the Yongbyon facility, North Korea will immediately target, carry the war to the US mainland," he said, adding that New York, Washington and Chicago would be "aflame".

A pre-emptive strike on Yongbyon is one of the strategic options in the crisis over North Korea's nuclear arms program. The US has deployed 24 long-range bombers to the Pacific base of Guam capable of launching such a strike.

Mr Kim, who has written a text studied by North Korean military leaders, predicted North Korea would restart its reprocessing plant to make weapons-grade plutonium this month.


A nuclear weapon would be produced by the end of next month, with another five by the end of the year, he said. This was on top of a suspected nuclear arsenal of 100 weapons.

The ultimate aim of North Korea's leader, Kim Jong-il, was the "neutralisation of the American factor" in the region, Mr Kim said.

This would be achieved by striking a non-aggression pact with the US or becoming an "official" nuclear power, thereby making the US nuclear umbrella in the region irrelevant. "Both ways, Kim Jong-il is a winner," Mr Kim said.

"By the end of the year, I predict Bush will be in Pyongyang suing for peace," Mr Kim said. While his comments are extreme, they match the heated and belligerent rhetoric of North Korea, which has previously warned of nuclear war and turning the cities of its enemies into a "sea of ashes".

The Bush Administration yesterday made renewed calls on China and other countries in the region to help broker a solution to the crisis. In his live televised press conference, Mr Bush said North Korea's nuclear program was a regional issue.

"I say 'regional' because there's a lot of countries that have got a direct stake into whether or not North Korea has nuclear weapons," Mr Bush said. "We've got a stake as to whether North Korea has nuclear weapons. China clearly has a stake as to whether or not North Korea has a nuclear weapon."

The Bush Administration is pushing for multilateral talks with North Korea but the communist state wants direct talks with Washington.

In the meantime, diplomatic activity is continuing behind the scenes. "We have a number of diplomatic initiatives under way - some of them very, very quietly under way - to see if we cannot get a multilateral dialogue started," the US Secretary of State, Colin Powell, told a US Senate Committee.

Yesterday the US also flagged the possible withdrawal of its 37,000 troops from South Korea, part of the rethink of a deployment in place since the end of the Korean War in 1953.

The US Defence Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, said the US was consulting with South Korea and he suspected "we'll end up making some adjustments there".

"Whether the forces come home or whether they will move further south of the [Korean] peninsula or whether to some neighbouring area are the kinds of things that are being sorted out," he said at a "town hall" meeting in Germany.
 
For the sake of argument, what are your ideas for what should be done with North Korea?

It would be interesting to hear opposing views.
 
10 nukes, every major city including the capitol and where their leader lives. If they try to shoot missiles at us, we will shoot them down. That is, if they even get close enough to us to worry about before they land in the ocean.
 
chesty said:
10 nukes, every major city including the capitol and where their leader lives. If they try to shoot missiles at us, we will shoot them down. That is, if they even get close enough to us to worry about before they land in the ocean.

LOL so you would decide to launch a preemptive nuclear strike on them without attempting any diplomacy at all?
 
I don't know. They said they will do that for a pre emtive strike, so if we don't strike first they may not strike back. I personally see nothing wrong with threatening retaliation for a pre emtive strike, but they are still a nutty regime who sell weapons to anyone with the money to buy them. who knows what they'll do.

The world is getting dangerous now that any piss poor country will soon have chem & bio weapons plus the rockets needed to shoot then 1/2 across the world. I think a proliferation of WMD will result in much saner leadership.

I wonder what message this sends to the world. The aggressive dictator with weapons & rockets that can threaten america is being greeted diplomatically with offers of humanitarian aid but the passive dictator w/o the rockets to attack america is getting pushed around no matter how much he cooperates with their demands. Might makes right i guess.
 
if chesty was in charge the world would have been covered by a radioactive cloud decades ago
 
Well, since North Korea is openly targeting civilians, i retract my statement about retaliation. If they just struck military or economic targets they would be justified in threatening retaliation. But attacking civilians to retaliate because we attack a military installation shouldn't be tolerated.
 
nordstrom said:
I don't know. They said they will do that for a pre emtive strike, so if we don't strike first they may not strike back. I personally see nothing wrong with threatening retaliation for a pre emtive strike, but they are still a nutty regime who sell weapons to anyone with the money to buy them. who knows what they'll do.

The world is getting dangerous now that any piss poor country will soon have chem & bio weapons plus the rockets needed to shoot then 1/2 across the world. I think a proliferation of WMD will result in much saner leadership.

I wonder what message this sends to the world. The aggressive dictator with weapons & rockets that can threaten america is being greeted diplomatically with offers of humanitarian aid but the passive dictator w/o the rockets to attack america is getting pushed around no matter how much he cooperates with their demands. Might makes right i guess.

Good post. I dont agree with a pre-emptive strike, but at the same time I wouldnt feel good sitting on my hands while they built more and more of these weapons and eventually sell most of them off in order to bring the fuckin country out of the famine it is currently undergoing. It is quite a pickle.
 
Either way it is a dangerous game they are playing. Participating in a game of chicken where nukes are a bargaining chips is not the best way to do things.

No matter what, it is a Lose, Lose situation for the US! If we are premptive we are a periah and China will have more Geo Political influence in the world! If we are attacked we will be in another war! Three Wars in a row China will come out the victor and they will have more Geo Political Power!
 
DcupSheepNipples said:


No matter what, it is a Lose, Lose situation for the US! If we are premptive we are a periah and China will have more Geo Political influence in the world! If we are attacked we will be in another war! Three Wars in a row China will come out the victor and they will have more Geo Political Power!


How will China win anything since their military budget is about 50 billion, and the EU, UN & USA would be united against aggression from them? define 'geo political influence'.
 
How will China win anything since their military budget is about 50 billion, and the EU, UN & USA would be united against aggression from them? define 'geo political influence'.

Come on Nordstrom I know your smarter than that! It's not china the US will be fighting! It will be North Korea! China will be pulling the strings behind North Korea! They dont have to worry about the EU, UN and USA united against them! GNWO is your answer!

North Korea China
NWO

Dcups Theory Of NWO

Although there are many entaties of the NWO, GNWO its biggest support structure is human nature itself! To understand NWO, GNWO ideology you must be able to interpt it from everyday life, information and history! No amount of information will prove or support it without a paticular person being able to see it as formula of human nature! Besides you can not prove it until it actually completes it's course! By then it is to late to alter it's course!

An example of this is Einstein's theory of relativity! Einstein's theory of relativity brought space and time together in a single, four-dimensional arrangement that he called spacetime. We know that we can travel forwards, backwards and sideways in space, so why not forwards and backwards in time? So Einstein has presented this and you believe it may be true, but you can't prove it until it actually happens in life itself! The only way you can believe in it is to have faith it exists! This is similiar to ones faith in a religion! In conclusion for one to believe in the existence of NWO and GNWO you must have faith in it!

Here are some of my posts for explanations of what's going on!

I support the spread of democracy! It is useful to deter the other factions fighting for the GNWO! However if democracy claims total victory it will lead to One Nation, Rather than A UN, United Nations! Which is a pawn for the "various players" That's why the UN is so dangerous! With the "One Nation" the GNWO will win no matter what its means are Democracy, Religion, Communism, Fascism, Eutopia, or Capitalism! With the "One Nation" America will not exist! And neither will Canada, England, Russia, China etc! But the views of that one power will crush all others! You may say this is hogwash! But human nature lead to civilization, which lead to nations, Nation Unions (example the European Union), Which leads to the UN control, and then finishes of with the "ONE NATION!" The scary part is we don't know who will control this "ONE NATION" of the GNWO!

There are only a few that know the truth about Geo Political Game! And there are only a few that have the power and are fighting for that power! Within the game there are many battles within the war! The UN, Treaties, Terrorism, Espionage, Famine and Wars are part of this and help to cover the real "WAR" Wich is Total Global Domination! Wich may fall under the control of, Religion, Democracy, Communism, Fascism, Eutopia, or Capitalism! Many have broken through and have come close to total control! However they made to many mistakes and lost control! But what you are starting to see now is a split in the power base! There is alot of rocking the boat going on! Nation States are being used as devices for supporting this fight! China and the US are the top instruments of this power now! Russia and the Islamic Radicals are not far from the top of this power struggle! Luckily for me and others that know the truth are seen as fringe group by the Sheeple! Otherwise we would be silenced immediately! What is so bad about this? You don't know who will end up with total control and what they will do with it! How many lives will be lost until the Sheeple wake up?

How sheeple are controlled!

Sheeple Control
 
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well, we've had public officials say that we'd easily defeat north korea if the time came. so that's kind of a threat in itself.

seriously though, the're saying that they'd launch an attack if WE attacked them first. Doesn't every country have the right to self defense? just curious.
 
For God's sakes, let's get serious. There's no way North Korea can reach New-York or Chicago. That's like 10 000 km if I'm not mistaken. Not even China is able to do it.
 
manny78 said:
For God's sakes, let's get serious. There's no way North Korea can reach New-York or Chicago. That's like 10 000 km if I'm not mistaken. Not even China is able to do it.

You are correct -> 10-11k km from NK to NYC
 
For God's sakes, let's get serious. There's no way North Korea can reach New-York or Chicago. That's like 10 000 km if I'm not mistaken. Not even China is able to do it.

You are correct -> 10-11k km from NK to NYC

Bros China has the capability to reach New York or Chicago! And they are increasing their stocks every day! Their unfettered in their development and have hundreds of nukes rather than tens of nukes today. They have no need at this time to use them! They are letting North Korea do their dirty work for them! Which is to get the US into another war and will lead to overextending our means economically! Chinas economy is getting more powerful every minute. China is just waiting for their chance to over take the US in the GWNO game!

http://www.nti.org/db/china/wbmdat.htm
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/china/icbm/index.html
http://www.nti.org/db/china/jl1.htm
 
unless they have a plan with somebody from the east for a two sided invasion. the n korean president is a freak. i can't see us going after them but if they shoot down our planes next time we fly over that could be a declaration of war. i still think its about $$$$$$. China has to much in trade with us to side witht hem BUT if they got involved and Russia got involved and we pissed off everybody we could be in a state of nuke war. I beleive Isreal and US have the most nukes. In a nuke war nobody wins but I guess if nothing else it helps knowing we have great tools to keep some alive and not hurt Austin Texas.
 
chesty said:
10 nukes, every major city including the capitol and where their leader lives. If they try to shoot missiles at us, we will shoot them down. That is, if they even get close enough to us to worry about before they land in the ocean.


Damn..you stole my theory...

Actually, we should pull all our troops out of South Korea and let the North march right into the South....then take 20 missiles and do both Koreas.

Hell....do we really need Daewoos??
 
Just like the Korean war and Vietnam China will help North Korea! We never attacked China in the mainland then and we won't now! The same thing happened in Afganistan but in reverse! The US fought the USSR covertaly by backing the Mujahidin! There won't be A WWIII until later! China has to many reasons not to trade with us! They are smart to let others do their bidding! It's all part of the GNWO game!

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=218277

China

North Korea

US
 
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Just a question...

N. Korea has not produced any Nukes yet..right?

Sooo...

If we strike their Nuke facility now and destroy it, how will they try to hit us with nuclear weapons if they have none and no way of making them.
 
N. Korea has not produced any Nukes yet..right?
If we strike their Nuke facility now and destroy it, how will they try to hit us with nuclear weapons if they have none and no way of making them.


Wrong! They have nukes and will have many more each year!That's why it is a crisis full of sabre rattling! Either way alot of people are going to die and it all leads to China wanting to control the GNWO over the US!

http://www.stratwar.com/Countries_North_Korea_Nukes.htm
http://www.sweethoneypa.org/nukes.htm
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/dprk/index.html
 
The Almighty said:


Good post. I dont agree with a pre-emptive strike, but at the same time I wouldnt feel good sitting on my hands while they built more and more of these weapons and eventually sell most of them off in order to bring the fuckin country out of the famine it is currently undergoing. It is quite a pickle.

Maybe if the USA didn`t sanction them not allowing them to trade in anything they could make some money in another way (?)
 
We should just destroy China and North Korea....We can start making things in the US again.

You would have to have a secret preemptive strike with subs and ICBM peacemakers! Each country would have to be wiped out fast! You would kill citizens in neighbor countries! They would be pissed! Russia, India. Pakistan they would retaliate WWIII! Not to mention other nuke powers! The US would be hit hard if not destroyed! Civilization would go "dark for some time because of the EMP and radiation! This would not work for a solution to the crisis! The only way to solve it is for the N. Korean and China's governments to collapse! If they are taken down their influence in the GNWO would go down!

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/index.html
 
Maybe if the USA didn`t sanction them not allowing them to trade in anything they could make some money in another way (?)

China is behind this! They want North Korea at their bidding so they can control them as a Pawn! However if someone else can get in to North Korea and overthrow Kim, then this relationship could be stopped!
 
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