Normal for chinaman sust shot...

[Nathan]

Alright, pain is to be expected, but it's been 6 days and the pain is almost gone. HOWEVER, I shot in my delt and the area is still red and swollen down to my elbow (it's gross) AND it itches a fair amount. I'm starting to get concerned about an infection (please, please, please don't let it be that). There is no puss (that I can squeeze out), pain is going away, no fever or anything like either. I guess I'm just wanting to hear from those who have shot chinaman sust and their symptoms. Also, you'd be able to squeeze ouss out right, and it wouldn't just sit below the skin? Any help greatly appreciated.

 

[hard as rocks]

sounds like an infection too me or an allergic reaction to the high b.a count.id go get some antiobiotics before it gets too late.
i bake everything before i use it so i get no pain at all. i also limit my inj site to 1 and a halfcc at a time.been using his stuff for over a year

 

[nycdefender]

I, too, baked his sust and that lessened the pain. My first shot was to my delt. It got red and swollen, but the area was not hot. I am extra careful about sterility--so I was fairly certain that it was not an infection. After a week-and-a-half, the swelling went away. I put an icepack on the delt to reduce the swelling. That seemed to help. After my first sust shot in my right delt, I decided to just do glute shots thereafter. I would get a knot in my glute, but it was never red.
My suggestion is to bake your sust at 250 degrees F for 5 minutes. Let it cool down for 45 minutes. Repeat two more times. The shots will be much better after you bake.

 

[Maxx Out]

Alright, pain is to be expected, but it's been 6 days and the pain is almost gone. HOWEVER, I shot in my delt and the area is still red and swollen down to my elbow (it's gross) AND it itches a fair amount. I'm starting to get concerned about an infection (please, please, please don't let it be that). There is no puss (that I can squeeze out), pain is going away, no fever or anything like either. I guess I'm just wanting to hear from those who have shot chinaman sust and their symptoms. Also, you'd be able to squeeze ouss out right, and it wouldn't just sit below the skin? Any help greatly appreciated.

Uh oh, prepare for the flame throwers! lol...

Sounds bad bro! I'm not for or against ** but that is the reason why I would never buy his injectables. Now for his tabs, that's a diff. story.


Maxx >>>>>

 

[Nathan]

I'm pretty sure it isn't an infection. I've talked to a few other guys who have used his sust and they get the same thing. Shot test in delts before and this reaction is new so... Anyway, no worries.

 

[da big thinker]

sounds like an infection too me or an allergic reaction to the high b.a count.id go get some antiobiotics before it gets too late.
i bake everything before i use it so i get no pain at all. i also limit my inj site to 1 and a halfcc at a time.been using his stuff for over a year

BINGO...bake his stuff to alleviate some of the pain...

 

[genarr3]

You might find this interesting:
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001353.htm

 

[Dr.Evil]

 

[Enigmaxxx7]

redness going in a direction usually indicates an infection or some type of blood poisoning. do you have a will?

 

[Nathan]

Okay, you guys have suitably scared the shit out of me. Thanks very much. There is no pain is the thing. It is just swollen (it seems to be getting closer to my wrist and red). Sometimes it itches as well. I have no fever or anything either. I guess i should maybe go to the doc but I've talked to other who have the EXACT same thing only to have it go away after a week or a bit over. It has been 7 days today. Do you see any harm in waiting until Saturday before going to the doc (2 days past a week)? Thanks.

 

[MadCow1]

If infection spreads to your kidneys through your blood you got real problems. Go to a doctor and get some antibiotics. It is not worth it.

My experience:

I used his sust and deca - got red, hot, swollen on first injection. Infection - cellulitis - antibiotic time (diagnosed by Dr.).

I then:

Baked at 250 for 15 minutes (3 times letting cool to room). Boiling point of BA/oil/active ingredients is well over 300 degrees yet there was rapid bubbling - is this BA or some other type of alcohol (ethyl? A... seems to think so as something in there is more volitile than just BA, oil, test/deca).

After baking I filtered with a .22 micron steril filter into new sterile vials.

Next injection - same thing - infection, cellulitis

I threw my shit out - there is something in there that causes problems for me.

Good luck.

 

[JG1]

Dude, go to the Doc ASAP. If it hasn't cleared up in a week, and it sounds like its getting worse, you most likely have an infection. Is the swollen area warmer then your other arm?

 

[Nathan]

It's not that much warmer than the other arm really. I think I'm going to go to a doc though to be sure. Shit. The thing is there is no pain at all. Anyway, I'll let you all know. The symptoms don't all seem to fit for an infection.

 

[MadCow1]

Regardless - there shouldn't be any red itchy area that appears to spread. Something is wrong.

If this is normal for his gear then I would steer away from it. Look at my experience above - this stuff causes problems. Deca should never hurt yet it does. Rediculous - what is in these products that causes these problems?

 

[mvmaxx]

Organon Durateston - no pain

 

[Nathan]

Okay, went to a doc. HE wasn't sure but agreed that it was either an infection or an allergic reaction most likely. He gave me both antibiotics and an anti-inflammatory. He also suggested I take an anti-histamine like Claritin in case of an allergic reaction. If it doesn't get better over the weekend I am to go back and see him. IF it doesn't get beeter then I think I am looking at an IV antibiotic drip or something else, for those who are curious. So long as I don't leave it and get to a doc if it worsens then I should be fine. Lesson to all if you ask me (especially a lesson for me). Take it for what it's worth but thanks to all for their advice and for scaring the shit out of me. You get what you pay for.

 

[JG1]

good luck bro'

 

[Nathan]

good luck bro'

Thanks. You're trying to scare me again though aren't you? Great, now I'm scared again - I'm very sensitive you know. I'm not nearly as scared as I was though. Even if it is an infection, so long as I go back to a doc then I should be fine. It's when you ignore it that you get problems. I don't know, maybe I'm trying to reassure myself. Damn you!

 

[BigAndy69]

Hi Nathan long time no speak. I called you a few days ago to say hi, and to hear how you're doing, I guess I know now. Ouch,

What's your cycle like?

I'm dieting, currently down to 205 lbs (from 210) Week 2, I'm going to start T3 on Sunday and clen soon enough(as well as Ritalin).

Talk to ya soon.

 

[Nathan]

I'll give you a call Andy.

 

[johnboy]

its the bacteria that came out of the bathtub it was made in

I keep trying to tell people and they are so fucking hard headed its fucking sick. IP sells dirty ass shit and half the time its 1/5 the mg that it is sapose to be. Yea, you can get his shit for cheap but think about your health. Go with some real gear.

 

[Nathan]

Bump to hear from other who have had infections and can describe them or from those who have had just a similar reaction as my own.

 

[BigAndy69]

I'll give you a call Andy.

I wasn't home last night I was using school computers.

Call me if you can at 3pm, we've got lots to talk about buddy.

Check this out:
http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=122457