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Joe C

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im doing a deca dbol cycle and was gonna take nolvadex for the first 4 weeks since im doing dbol for the first 4. is this a good idea. and also will the nolvadex help wit keeping down the water weight and how much around will it run me at 20mg/day. if use disagree wit anything im gonna do please help me out and give your opinions. thanks guys
 
what are ur stats/ cycle history.
what dosages are u running.
what type of dbol, deca, nolva do u have???


20mg ed is probably too much. Most can get away w/10mg eod, but i am curious to the dosages you are running. Why is there no test in there???
 
my last deca/dbol was rather dissappointing, and i wish i had a little bit of test in there.

i did:
30mg dbol ed weeks 1-5
400mg deca weeks 1-8

went from about 200-216
 
re:

im 6'2 about 200lbs been lifting for 2 solid straight years not counting all in highschool for football. this is my first cycle.
im either getting tokyo deca or quality vet deca and running it at 300mg/week for 8 weeks and doing pink dbol at 20mg /day for 4 weeks and running clomid at the end. also:
ala and milk thistle weeks 1-4 glutamine throughout and post cycle. creatine post cycle to help keep gains
 
i highly doubt u will need any nolvadex for 20mg of dbol ed. Currently im on 35mg dbol ed along with 750mg of test that i just started monday as well as 300mg of ttokkyo deca.

You can get the nolva's if u think u might be prone to gyno, and bloat, but at 20mg ed nobody really needs nolva's. Besides nolvadex will hinder your gains.

Can u get any test???
 
sorry, my point was that with all those androgens im on i havn't had itchy nips yet!!!
(knock on wood)

how old are you bro???
 
thanx!

thanx b-legit
do u think by doing cardio and watching the salt in my diet is a good way to keep the water weight down?
 
joe,
if u are trying to put on size than you dont want to be doing any cardio at all.
You seem very concerned about water retention...deca and dbol will make you pretty puffy as it does for me. If u are concerned about water retention you may want to re-consider you drugs of choice.
Maybe propionate and fina
or e/q and anavar

Is this ur first cycle. If so you should do a search and you will be very happy.
 
re:

its not that im concerned so much i just dont wanna look fat cause i been trying to prepare for the summer and drop body fat so i could have a decent stomach which i do i just have a little on the sides still. i just dont wanna gain weight on my sides and lower stomach. willl this cycle do this to me u think?
 
if u can get ur hands on sostenon it stacks extremely well with deca and dbol. Most people get very good gains with this stack and keep most of them as well.
it would go something like this:

week 1-10 500mg sostenon
week 1-10 3-400mg deca
week 1-5 25-30mg dbol

start clomid three weeks after last injection.

This cycle is proven to work well for first time stacks.
 
remember that if it is mass u are looking to put on you cant get cut and put mass on at the same time. You have to choose what u want to do.

What are your EXACT goals, and then i can help u with the right cycle.
 
price

how much u think this cycle is goin to cost me wit the dec dbol and clomid
and how much more wit the sus at 400mg/week
 
if u are just "trying to prepare for summer" than deca/dbol is not for u! This is a MASS building stack and yes, you will get some bodyfat and water retention along with this stack. Trust me.
 
re:

i wanna get big. im doing this cycle the week after i get back from cancun. the week of june 22nd
 
Hmm, lets see:
sostenon: about 8$ per amp (20 amps)--160$
deca: about 90$ for one 10cc vial (ttokkyo 300mg/ml
dbol: anywhere from .20 cents to 1.00$ per pill.
clomid: most important for gains kept: about a buck per pill.

Youv'e got to tell me your goals first. This may not be the cycle for u.
 
goals

my goals are to get noticeably big and defined. i wanna be big for the summer but i dont want to also put on a noticeable amount of bodyfat but i think this cycle meets my expectations. then in like 9 months or so>around march i wanna do a cutting cycle to cut up and be ripped for next summer without losing alot of mass from this cycle im gonna do. but the only thing with the cutting cycle is i dont want to take anything hard on the hair cause i mite lose it quicker cause my dads hair thinned out as he got older and i dont want to speed up that process for me o i wanna take wateva is the least harmful to my hair
 
wow bro...youv'e got a lot of searching to do! Have you used the search engine on this site. It's great, any possible question u have will probably be answered on the search engine.

1. dbol is very androgenic and has a doulbe bond between carbon #4 and #5 so yes, hair loss is possible with dbol.
2. There are many precautions u can take for hair loss such as proscar, propecia, nizoral shampoo.
3. Dont look at your dads hair to see if u are going to lose hair as well.
4. Genetically speaking, look at your mothers father and that is what your hair will look like (simple genetics)
5. I dont think you want to do a deca/dbol only cycle. (with your goals in mind) a better cycle would be something less androgenic and less harsh.
6. It seems as though youv'e got a lot of research to do on usage. (hence the search engine above)
7. One cycle will not just make you big. LOL.
8. Feel free to P.M. me if youv'e got any more questions.
 
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