nolva working or not?

[lilj888]

i ended my 6 weeks long 25mg/day dbol cycle last thursday and started nolva last friday. I lost five pounds so far but i gained 23lbs from the cycle. Im taking 20mg nolva a day. My strength is about the same, maybe a rep or 2 less. I havent worked out since last friday since i was on vacation. so its surprising i only went down 5lbs and my strength is about the same.

but, i am extremly tired and when i try to workout its killer. I can goto sleep at 12 am wake up at 10 am and then passout at 3 pm for 5 hours and go back to sleep at 2 am for 8 hours, and im still tired. is this normal? today i barely got myself to the gym because i was so tired

i also forgot to add that i have barely any sex drive

 

[HAYEZ]

20mg a day is low...some take 40 some take 60
pct i do is
nolva
60 x7days
40x14 days
your losing water from the dbol and you will lose more soon,
how were you taking your dbol all at once or split up? your drive should be shit now anyways you have no boost from aas and you took a week off workign out...im sure your vaction you drank and ate not normal, i would give it a few days to get back into it before thinking the nolva doesnt work. but do up it 20mg is low

 

[lilj888]

ya i only ate around 1500 cals a day and drank on vacation. i split the dbol 12.5mg twice daily

 

[needtogetaas]

Your crashing and the nolva is not helping. Did you use any hcg? I would get some amp for the energy, some sustain alpha to help recovery and get some hcg if you can.

 

[lilj888]

nope not on any hcg, i figured it wasnt a long cycle and at a low dose that i wouldnt need it but ill try to get some. even if nolva is real could i still be experiencing these sides?

 

[needtogetaas]

nope not on any hcg, i figured it wasnt a long cycle and at a low dose that i wouldnt need it but ill try to get some. even if nolva is real could i still be experiencing these sides?

Of course bro. How many people you here saying. "man I just get so much energy from this nolva"

Most of the time you here
damn I feel like a bitch on this nolva/clomid
damn this shit is killing my sex drive
wow this stuff is making me brake out with pimples
O god I can't see
wtf is with all these tracers
And on and on.

Not saying it don't work for pct, just saying you will never find people praising it for its energy giving effects or things like that.

 

[10001110101]

yeah it's a combination of low test from being shutdown and the side effects of the nolva. pct sucks.

HCG will help get you up and running faster, expect this feeling to slowly reverse over the next 4 weeks. but it won't completley go away until all the nolva is out of your system (maybe a week after you stop taking it) and that's assuming you had a full recovery at 4 weeks which is not 100 percent a given.

 

[lilj888]

Of course bro. How many people you here saying. "man I just get so much energy from this nolva"

Most of the time you here
damn I feel like a bitch on this nolva/clomid
damn this shit is killing my sex drive
wow this stuff is making me brake out with pimples
O god I can't see
wtf is with all these tracers
And on and on.

Not saying it don't work for pct, just saying you will never find people praising it for its energy giving effects or things like that.

lol i just thought since nolva boosts ur test levels that u wouldnt feel like crap on it

 

[jroc86]

#1- post holiday working out blows, as does post cycle ... youve got a double whammy going on here. Not to mention nolva (especially clomid) can give your the "I feel like a bag of dicks feeling" - guess what? that doesnt matter because you are recovering, and once your back into your schedule and all that useless metabolically in-active estrogen(nolva) is out of your system youll probably feel better.

You gota few options here bro:
#1- dont change your dosage, finish your pct, get back into your rythym - 20mgs has been clinically proven to be effective, and your cycle wasnt that bad.

#2- up the dose and maybe do a 40,40,20,20 per day/week schedule.

#2- if you really deem it neccesary:
-drop the nolva right now and begin an HCG protocol
*run aromasin or adex throughout. Ex, 25 mgs aromasin should be good
Week1: 1500mg twice a week
Week 2: 1000mg twice a week
Week 3: 500mg twice a week
Week 4: Nolva 40 mg ed
Week 5: Nolva 40mg ed
Week 6: Nolva 20 mg ed
Week 7: Nolva 20 mg ed
Week 8-9 ... run + taper of your AI to safeguard against any potential estrogen rebound.

 

[lilj888]

#1- post holiday working out blows, as does post cycle ... youve got a double whammy going on here. Not to mention nolva (especially clomid) can give your the "I feel like a bag of dicks feeling" - guess what? that doesnt matter because you are recovering, and once your back into your schedule and all that useless metabolically in-active estrogen(nolva) is out of your system youll probably feel better.

You gota few options here bro:
#1- dont change your dosage, finish your pct, get back into your rythym - 20mgs has been clinically proven to be effective, and your cycle wasnt that bad.

#2- up the dose and maybe do a 40,40,20,20 per day/week schedule.

#2- if you really deem it neccesary:
-drop the nolva right now and begin an HCG protocol
*run aromasin or adex throughout. Ex, 25 mgs aromasin should be good
Week1: 1500mg twice a week
Week 2: 1000mg twice a week
Week 3: 500mg twice a week
Week 4: Nolva 40 mg ed
Week 5: Nolva 40mg ed
Week 6: Nolva 20 mg ed
Week 7: Nolva 20 mg ed
Week 8-9 ... run + taper of your AI to safeguard against any potential estrogen rebound.

good info bro, but im not gonna drop the nolva i can stick it out, was more worried if it was fake because i didnt wanna loose my hard earned gains. im gonna go with ur option #1.

 

[eddymerckx]

just a suggestion--read these two posts--really informative and may help a bit

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/7923018-post1.html

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/8046949-post1.html