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bambam34

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i havnt done a cycle yet but am planning on using nolva to get rid of some gyno from puberty(its not glandular, its estrogenic fat). is this a good idea? and if so what dosages and how long should i run it at?(i have 100mL at 20mg/mL)thanks in advance for any help :)
 
bambam34 said:
i havnt done a cycle yet but am planning on using nolva to get rid of some gyno from puberty(its not glandular, its estrogenic fat). is this a good idea? and if so what dosages and how long should i run it at?(i have 100mL at 20mg/mL)thanks in advance for any help :)
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Sorry... U can't use Nolva to get rid of teenage gyno... But I'm not a 100% on this one...
 
nolvadex at least here in mexico is oral, you can take 20mg a day to prevent gyno, but it won't help you to get rid of the teenage gyno as p.i says.
 
I have no personal experience with it but a couple of people on this board have reported that they used nolvadex (20-40mg/day) to successfully get rid of gyno they had since their teens.
 
estrogen fatty puffy nips!

I have the same problem, I have tried andractim with little success. I have heard of people using 60mg ed until it subsides, then running 40mg ed for 3 months. Pubmed has some articles on resolution after 6 months. It seems that long term is the secret. Does anyone no if you would have a large estrogen rebound after elongated exposure to nolva? Could you long term femara or armidex without screwing your cholesterol?

thanks
 
I was just wondering... If you have gyno, and get ripped to a 5% BF or something very low, do those tits disappear? Or do you really need some drugs or operation to get rid of them? And after you where shredded for a while, and then put on some fat, those it go straight to your tits? Probably a stupid question, but I don't really know a lot about gyno (because I don't suffer from it, thank God)
 
bump for VictorBR......i think i remember him sayin he used it to get rid of gyno from puberty.....i just need to know how many mg/day and for how long....thanks
 
I would like to know also..

Can you get rid of puffy nips by cutting down ?

Whats the difference between puffy nips and gyno ??

If you have puffy nips now.. is there a greater chance of getting gyno ?
 
I had gynecomastia from puberty. It was a hard lump under my nipple, it was only about the size of a nickel for a long time. In my early 20's it sprouted to about the size of a 50 cent piece and hurt like hell to any touch. I had it surgically removed (1994). There was still a tiny bit of hardness afterward that was about the size of half a pea (aka. split pea). Shit grew back after a couple years, had it cut out again (1997). Same thing that time it was hard and big and hurt like hell to the touch. Once again it started to come back in early 2002. By late 2002 it was a bitch, so I started tamoxifen at 60mgs/day in divided doses (20mgs every 6-7 hours). The pain started to go away quickly and the gyno began to shrink after a couple weeks...I'd say it was about 8-10 weeks until it was completely gone (this time it was the size of a silver dollar coin-BIG). I continued the tamoxifen at 40mgs/day in divided doses for a total of about 20 weeks. To this day I have had no recurrence of the gynecomastia, and if I ever started to feel like I did, Im sure 20mgs/day of nolva would keep it in check.
 
Hope my friends! Ceo, thats great to hear, did you taper off nolva or go to an anti-e after you discontinued use?

I have little lumps that are spread out, I think its adipose though. any way to tell?
 
Im going to see a plastic surgeon to at least get an opinion and diagnosis. If it is just puffy nips then I have heard I can get a nipple reduction done in the office for around $1500, If there is gland it is a whole different deal. Once I get diagnosed I will post some pictures so we can corelate the two, pictures with diagnosis that is!
 
I have had puffy nips and estro fat since puberty. I didn't know I had that much of a problem because my nipples were only slightly puffy. I have been on nolva @ 60mg ED for the past two weeks and the difference is amazing. My nipples have actually shrank! I didn't know my nipples were abnormal before but now I can tell that this is the size they should have been all along. :) My estro fat seems to have broken apart and has reduced significantly in size. My girlfriend says the difference is huge.

So everyone knows, NOLVA WILL DECREASE PUBERTY INDUCED GYNO! 3 month cycle @ 60mg ED until symptoms subside, then 40mg ED for the remainder of the cycle.
 
right on! that's great news. I just started my therapy, so we will see. Im using andractim at the same time. I also have heard that the nolva could increase your free estrogen and employing an anti-e at the end of nolva may be wise? Are you taking you nolva 3 times per day?
 
gamorrah said:
right on! that's great news. I just started my therapy, so we will see. Im using andractim at the same time. I also have heard that the nolva could increase your free estrogen and employing an anti-e at the end of nolva may be wise? Are you taking you nolva 3 times per day?
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20mg in the morning, 20mg in the afternoon and 20mg in the evening.
 
gamorrah said:
same here, on the tamoxifen. Do you think the armidex is necessary?
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I don't think the adex is needed during the cycle. The nolva is blocking most of the estro receptors anyway so killing the estrogen shouldn't be necessary. Maybe closer to the end of the cycle but I am pretty sure it is unnecessary during the whole 3 months.
 
thanks!

do you run adex through your cycles or only when necessary?

would you advise a boldenone/winny cycle for someone who is gyno sensitive?

thanks
 
gamorrah said:
Hope my friends! Ceo, thats great to hear, did you taper off nolva or go to an anti-e after you discontinued use?

I have little lumps that are spread out, I think its adipose though. any way to tell?
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I tapered off the Nolvadex. Nolvadex is an anti-e. I think you are thinking of anti-aromitase.
 
bambam34 said:
bump for VictorBR......i think i remember him sayin he used it to get rid of gyno from puberty.....i just need to know how many mg/day and for how long....thanks
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Dude do a search on google and yahoo about nolvadex...it will tell that it can eliminate elarged breast tissue....try it out and see what it does for you...allot of people react differently to diff compounds...so try it out...the worst that can happen is nothing...so good luck
 
gam, i have the same problem....mine are a little more puffy than yours tho but not much...and minus the chest hair lol

P.S.- if i can find a way to get some pics ill post em too
 
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if you do not have hard sensitive lumps under the nipple, you most likely dont have gynecomastia. From the looks of your pics, unless you're bulking, you should watch your diet, and definitely work on chest (and overall) development.
 
scriptfactory said:
Both. My whole nipple area is smaller and "tighter", for lack of a better word. Nolva works great. My whole puffy nip problem is about gone.
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Ive always had puffy nipps... I think its from puberty.. but now that Im working out more and on AAS, Im just worried if they will get worse ?

Im on Winny and Prop right now..
50MG winny ED
100MG Prop EoD

I think puffy nips is just FAT, but.. Ive kicked up my cardio since Im on winny..

I have Nolva for my PCT, however,... should I take Nolva now.. to help get ride of the puffy nipps ? My chest has gotten alot bigger, but the lower half still looks puffy...
Any thoughts out there?
 
ceo said:
if you do not have hard sensitive lumps under the nipple, you most likely dont have gynecomastia. From the looks of your pics, unless you're bulking, you should watch your diet, and definitely work on chest (and overall) development.
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I would like to actually decrease the size of my chest. Currently I do Bench and Incline, what exercises would you suggest?
 
Also, I have little lumps throught the chest area, I cant tell if it is adipose or breast tissue, It feels similar to adipose that I have in other fatty areas though.

thanks for your comments
 
for anyone who has had success with nolva therapy, how long did it take before you started seeing noticable results?...thanks
 
I definately noticed a decrease in puffiness after about 2 weeks @ 60mg/ 3 doses, I also have spread out lumps, I just cant tell if the lumps are adipose leaving do to weight loss, or gyno leaving due to nolva. My nips are shrinking though after 2 weeks, Im going to run it 3 months, and drop to 40 mg ED next week. Im supposed to see a plastic surgeon on the 20th, but I may cancel as my nips are changing.
 
bambam34 said:
are u takin liquid or tabs??
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I originally did my PCT with tabs, but the last 2 weeks @ 60mg has been liquid. Im about out, so I will switch to tabs after my mexico vacation.
 
ya im takin liquid and im comin up on 2 weeks.....if anythin they have gotten slightly worse, if any change at all. not expectin a miracle tho so im bein patient.
 
gamorrah said:
Also, I have little lumps throught the chest area, I cant tell if it is adipose or breast tissue, It feels similar to adipose that I have in other fatty areas though.

thanks for your comments
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well, like I said, if they aren't hard and painful, it's most likely not gyno. That's why I said work on your diet and development. Sounds like you are trying to lean up. Diet is the key there, and building muscle always helps to lose fat. Are you doing any cardio? Try a variety of other chest exercises too...see what your body responds best to. Try flies, dips, cable crossovers and pullovers, and all their variations. Seems like you are looking more to define what you already have right now.
 
bambam34 said:
for anyone who has had success with nolva therapy, how long did it take before you started seeing noticable results?...thanks
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Noticeable results? Within 2-4 weeks. The first thing that is usually noticed is that the painfulness or tenderness goes away...that can be as quick as a week.
 
ceo said:
well, like I said, if they aren't hard and painful, it's most likely not gyno. That's why I said work on your diet and development. Sounds like you are trying to lean up. Diet is the key there, and building muscle always helps to lose fat. Are you doing any cardio? Try a variety of other chest exercises too...see what your body responds best to. Try flies, dips, cable crossovers and pullovers, and all their variations. Seems like you are looking more to define what you already have right now.
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they are not real hard and have never hurt.
However, I have been 10% bf and had them puffier then they are now, that was when I was in my early 20's. Im currrently 36!

Currently im doing the BFFM "tom Venuto thing" eat 6 times a day, macro ratio is 50-30-20.My BMR is 3600 so I try to eat around 3000cals, but I don't count them with as much discipline as I should.I have gone from 24%-14.8% in the last 4 months or so, I also did do a boldenone/proviron cycle in the middle.
For Cardio I try to do 50mins on the elliptical 5 times per week. I have had several knee operations and that machine has been great. Maybe It's just fat and the nipples will flattten out if I get lean enough. Water retention seems to be a factor as well!

I really appreciate this forum, thanks for the answers!

BTW: If you develop a body part that is too big for symmetry with the rest of your body, what do you do?
 
gamorrah said:
they are not real hard and have never hurt.
However, I have been 10% bf and had them puffier then they are now... Maybe It's just fat and the nipples will flattten out if I get lean enough. Water retention seems to be a factor as well!

I really appreciate this forum, thanks for the answers!
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sounds like just a problem area. Not sure how much tamoxifen (Nolvadex) will help, but certainly building the muscle at that area is the first step, then there are many things people have used. The Anabolic Fitness store has a lot of products that I have heard very good things about. They have a yohimbine cream or something that has been popular for this. Search around and/or ask ulter or macro.

gamorrah said:
BTW: If you develop a body part that is too big for symmetry with the rest of your body, what do you do?
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I have this problem...my penis is just too big! Very out of proportion with the rest of my body!

Seriously though...we all have those part/parts that grow like crazy...just gotta bring the rest up to match (or at least keep trying).
 
Im almost to the point were I think my psychological fitness is suffering due to excessively thinking about a minor problem. Im going to kick the crap out of the life fitness 9500 machine today, that will make me feel better! Frankly though, I've used all the yohimbe stuff as well as andractim, with no effect. My nipples have however shrunk since I started the Nolva, I have lost weight as well though, so its hard to tell? BTW, did you have any problems when you stopped the tamoxifen treatment? should I have some armidex around?
 
I stayed on tamoxifen (while tapering off - down to 10mg/day) for a total of about 16-20 weeks. No, I did not have any problems when I stopped.
 
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I appreciate you taking the time, my nips seem to be shrinking, Im going to take the remaining pills (tapering) and continue the hard cardio for awhile. I cancelled going to the plastic surgeon and decided to deal with it. thanks again.
also, do you think EQ/Winny poses any real gyno threat if I am prepared with the Nolva, or would recommend something like deca? Im looking for slow gains and safety, and Primobolin is too much $$$
 
gamorrah said:
I appreciate you taking the time, my nips seem to be shrinking, Im going to take the remaining pills (tapering) and continue the hard cardio for awhile. I cancelled going to the plastic surgeon and decided to deal with it. thanks again.
also, do you think EQ/Winny poses any real gyno threat if I am prepared with the Nolva, or would recommend something like deca? Im looking for slow gains and safety, and Primobolin is too much $$$
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I think EQ and Winny pose a very low threat for gyno, and if you have nolvadex on hand there are no worries.
 
thats good to hear! I think that will continue to be my choice of gear. I have never used the winny with EQ. I know serious BB's don't do EQ alone, but I was pretty happy with my EQ/proviron experience. In your opinion, is adding the winny to the EQ worth the money?

thanks, this will be my last question for awhile (-;
 
I've never tried winny with EQ, but winny and fina are incredible. Of course you have much higher risk of sides with fina. I would think that winny and EQ would work well together. Other opinions maybe?
 
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